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Village Idiot
Trenton, MI
98 ExSport, '00 F-150
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Single speed vs 2-speed t-case
Just curious: I know the '06 and '07 are coming out with a single speed and 2-speed transfer case. Are the V-8s limited to the single-speed, or can you get the 2-speed with the V-8 now?
Just curious is all.... I stumbled on some interesting info on how to manually lock the single-speed t-case into 4 high. Still need to read-up on how it works though... -Joe __________________ -98 Explorer Sport, 4.0 SOHC, K&N drop-in, LEMON in progress! -'00 F-150, mucho mods "We need to allow Darwinism take it's course and let the idiots weed themselves out of existance." ~ Rick Horwitz We must believe in free will — we have no choice. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer I'm not smart, just a resourceful idiot. ~ Me |
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Explorer Addict
Johnstown, PA
1994 Explorer XLT
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I believe they are offering both the regular 4wd and AWD on the new Explorers, either engine.
I don't see a way to lock the AWD case in. Unless they changed it, it is all mechanical. __________________ 1994 Explorer XLT | M5R1 swap | 2" Lift | 32" ProComp Mud Terrains 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero | 2.8 Full pressure turbo | 6MT | 280whp/325wtq |
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Village Idiot
Trenton, MI
98 ExSport, '00 F-150
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'06 and '07 are different according to the shop manual.... apparently the Borg Warner 44-11 is a little bit different.... I can't quite tell if it's the same as the 2-speed case but without the reduction gears, or if there's a major difference between them.... Haven't gotten that far into the prints yet.
Here's some interesting info I gleaned about the single-speed t-case on the '06 and '07: Quote:
-Joe __________________ -98 Explorer Sport, 4.0 SOHC, K&N drop-in, LEMON in progress! -'00 F-150, mucho mods "We need to allow Darwinism take it's course and let the idiots weed themselves out of existance." ~ Rick Horwitz We must believe in free will — we have no choice. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer I'm not smart, just a resourceful idiot. ~ Me |
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Explorer Addict
Johnstown, PA
1994 Explorer XLT
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Thats dumb. The system is jerky and very inconsistant. Where as the mechanical very is transparent.
__________________ 1994 Explorer XLT | M5R1 swap | 2" Lift | 32" ProComp Mud Terrains 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero | 2.8 Full pressure turbo | 6MT | 280whp/325wtq |
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High Voltage.
Erie, Pennsylvania
1998 Mountaineer
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That is a shame. Viscous couplings are the way to go. No wires, computers, or electromagnetic ramp clutches to fail.
__________________ 1998 Mounty 5.0 AWD TT/Shackles/rear AirLift springs 31x10.5 Kelly TSR's 1995 Subaru Legacy AWD Sedan RIP---Killed by an suicidal deer 1972 El Camino---Project Dirty Old Chevy---Fresh Marine Longblock .060 over, Forged crank RV Cam 454/th400 swap, Hooker Headers, fresh coat of white 1999 KTM 300exc RaceTech Suspension, Rekluse Slipper Clutch, single track killer |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
colorado
2006 xlt
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is torque-on-demand another way of saying control-trac?
also, how does control-trac know when you've gone from loose surface to hardpack/pavement? perhaps a link to a control-trac white paper could be useful, if anyone knows where it is. again, i searched & got nuthin useful. |
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High Voltage.
Erie, Pennsylvania
1998 Mountaineer
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Control trac is just a Ford term like traction-lok Torque on demand is universal name for "automatic" 4wd. Control trac uses the speed sensors to tell if a wheel is slipping. If there is no slippage the TOD clutch in the t case doesn't power the front axle.
__________________ 1998 Mounty 5.0 AWD TT/Shackles/rear AirLift springs 31x10.5 Kelly TSR's 1995 Subaru Legacy AWD Sedan RIP---Killed by an suicidal deer 1972 El Camino---Project Dirty Old Chevy---Fresh Marine Longblock .060 over, Forged crank RV Cam 454/th400 swap, Hooker Headers, fresh coat of white 1999 KTM 300exc RaceTech Suspension, Rekluse Slipper Clutch, single track killer |
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Village Idiot
Trenton, MI
98 ExSport, '00 F-150
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And yes, I think the 44-11 is essentially the 44-05 (2nd-gen Control-Trac) modified for single-speed function, but I can't be sure. I would love to see the two side-by-side and split-open. Anyone with an '06 want to drop their t-case for me and split it open?
__________________ -98 Explorer Sport, 4.0 SOHC, K&N drop-in, LEMON in progress! -'00 F-150, mucho mods "We need to allow Darwinism take it's course and let the idiots weed themselves out of existance." ~ Rick Horwitz We must believe in free will — we have no choice. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer I'm not smart, just a resourceful idiot. ~ Me |
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High Voltage.
Erie, Pennsylvania
1998 Mountaineer
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That's wierd since other companies use the term torque on demand. Thats what they called the Polaris atv's 4x4 system when it came out. Maybe they had to quit using it. I fail to see the point of having all the drawbacks of the TOD system, without having the low gear set. Probably just so Ford can cut some costs, and use the same cases and tooling and just leave out the low range parts. Oddly enough this is how Polaris builds their transfer cases. They are all low range cases with 4x4, but the 2wd's are missing the front output.
__________________ 1998 Mounty 5.0 AWD TT/Shackles/rear AirLift springs 31x10.5 Kelly TSR's 1995 Subaru Legacy AWD Sedan RIP---Killed by an suicidal deer 1972 El Camino---Project Dirty Old Chevy---Fresh Marine Longblock .060 over, Forged crank RV Cam 454/th400 swap, Hooker Headers, fresh coat of white 1999 KTM 300exc RaceTech Suspension, Rekluse Slipper Clutch, single track killer |
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Village Idiot
Trenton, MI
98 ExSport, '00 F-150
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Maybe Polaris uses a B/W t-case? I dunno on that one....
I just poured over the exploded diagrams and yes, it appears that the single speed 44-11 is just a modified 44-05 without a planetary reduction gear, shift motor, and fork assembly. The front half of the case is different based on whether you've got a 4.0 liter with the 5R55 or the 4.6 liter with the 6R60 transmission. They also use a different front output shaft depending, again, on which engine/trans you have. Unfortunately, it looks like the same ol' Control-Trac case. The good news is that the BWM should still work so long as you maintain the feedback loop to the 4x4 control module. They changed the wiring aorund a bit, and instead of grounding through the chassis, the ground loop from the t-case feeds back through the 4x4 control module, just like all the '02-ups. Just requires some wiring creativity to work around it (I think.... still haven't found anyone to let me try it). I'm also not sure how well the BWM would interface with the RSC programming either.... might take some creative aftermarket programming to work around this one.... -Joe __________________ -98 Explorer Sport, 4.0 SOHC, K&N drop-in, LEMON in progress! -'00 F-150, mucho mods "We need to allow Darwinism take it's course and let the idiots weed themselves out of existance." ~ Rick Horwitz We must believe in free will — we have no choice. ~ Isaac Bashevis Singer I'm not smart, just a resourceful idiot. ~ Me |
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