Winch plate/Receiver hitch

**rookieshooter** · 03-18-2006, 07:32 AM

Here's my delima. I need to make a tube front bumper. In the pic you can see a receivrer hitch that I'm going to incorporate in the tubed bumper. The hitch will be fastened to the frame not to the bumper. The more I thought about it. I would like also have a provision for a mounted winch above that receiver. Even that I don't have a winch yet and don't know what brand. Yes I know that I could use a receiver style winch and may just do that. I have plans for other things also for that hitch, like a basket cage and a support for my kayak among other things. My question is. I have never owned a winch, I would think they would need somekind of mounting plate. Do different kinds of winches like Warn, Ramsy or Milemarker use standard mounting layout holes? What I really need is what size steel plate do you think I would need to attach to the top of that receiver hitch. ( W x L ) I would like to have this on before bending tubes. Thanks

*bmxking5* · 03-18-2006, 07:45 AM

I've got some 5/16 or 3/8" laying outside that I plan to make my mounting plate out of. If I remember right, my friend's TJ has a Warn mounting plate that's only 1/4". The majority of the winches (especailly in the 8-12k range that you'd be looking at) are 10" x 4.5" mounting points. Most mounting plates have four bolts that mount on the bumper (or wherever it'll be mounted) that hold down the plate. Then the plate slopes up to give room for the bolts from the winch to come down (another 4 holes). Depending on how big that piece where you're mounting the tow chains is, and how far in the winch will be mounted, you might be able to get away with mounting the winch directly above the hitch, and still clear the winch bolts around the chain mounts.(or move the chain mounts below the hitch instead of above).

I just built a winch plate for a YJ at school, so the ideas are fresh in my head.

**rookieshooter** · 03-18-2006, 08:16 AM

Thanks, thats good info., need to think this out some more about those bolts clearing the hitch. Thats about the same size plate that I have.

**DeRocha** · 03-18-2006, 01:22 PM

Just a thought but if your putting on a front reciever hitch then just get a hitch mounted winch. Most of the time the winch could be at home or rear hatch and only pulled out when needed.. Not being exposed to the elements will keep the winch looking and performing like new. Obviously if you plan on off-roading a lot then it may be more convienent to have both the reciever and a permanently mounted winch.

*bmxking5* · 03-18-2006, 03:44 PM

^^^But those things stick out soooo far. Plus, what if you got in a position where you were unable to put the winch in the receiver? (like if you were really close to a rock, etc.

**rookieshooter** · 03-18-2006, 07:53 PM

I like both ideas of a hitch mounted on the receiver and bolted above receiver closer to the body. During the months that I would not really be in the woods and trails and not needing all that heavy weight up front. leave the winch home like De Rocha said out of the elements and if I do go out ocasionaly leave in the back fastened down. But come fall when I'm on the trails on the farm from Oct to Jan bolt to the spot above hitch. I went to a 4x4 shop and looked at the bolt pattern that Warn uses, about 6 x 12 plate would be plenty big. They also had a receiver hitch plate there that the winch sets on with handles.
So I don't thing I could go wrong with a plate mounted above the hitch, and then have the best of both worlds.

**rookieshooter** · 03-21-2006, 05:11 AM

Anybody know of any bumper receiver hitches that instead of coming straight out and putting the winch s out in front. Actually allows the winch to set back over bumper? I imagine with so many style bumpers this would be hard to make a universal one. I want to make one and thought that a pic would be nice.

*Brian1* · 03-21-2006, 02:59 PM

From the main page-

Fakrwee's Navajo

**rookieshooter** · 03-21-2006, 04:45 PM

Nice, real nice thank for posting

*RockRanger* · 03-21-2006, 07:43 PM

If you live close to the ocean or have alot of moisture in the air dont leave it in the bumper. I remember fakarwee telling me his winch has rusted into the reciever to where he can remove it. Just keep that in mind.

**rookieshooter** · 03-21-2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockRanger

If you live close to the ocean or have alot of moisture in the air dont leave it in the bumper. I remember fakarwee telling me his winch has rusted into the reciever to where he can remove it. Just keep that in mind.

Thanks for the tip. And yes the humidity is terrible in the summer. In fact after hearing that, I'll grease this inside of the hitch tommorrow before I forget. Check out my build thread, I finally got it where I want it. Thanks for your input guys.

03-18-2006, 07:32 AM	#1
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,185 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Winch plate/Receiver hitch Here's my delima. I need to make a tube front bumper. In the pic you can see a receivrer hitch that I'm going to incorporate in the tubed bumper. The hitch will be fastened to the frame not to the bumper. The more I thought about it. I would like also have a provision for a mounted winch above that receiver. Even that I don't have a winch yet and don't know what brand. Yes I know that I could use a receiver style winch and may just do that. I have plans for other things also for that hitch, like a basket cage and a support for my kayak among other things. My question is. I have never owned a winch, I would think they would need somekind of mounting plate. Do different kinds of winches like Warn, Ramsy or Milemarker use standard mounting layout holes? What I really need is what size steel plate do you think I would need to attach to the top of that receiver hitch. ( W x L ) I would like to have this on before bending tubes. Thanks __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

03-18-2006, 07:45 AM	#2
bmxking5 Rollover Posse Member Monroe, GA '93 Sport & '96 XLT Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,812 Vehicle Specs	I've got some 5/16 or 3/8" laying outside that I plan to make my mounting plate out of. If I remember right, my friend's TJ has a Warn mounting plate that's only 1/4". The majority of the winches (especailly in the 8-12k range that you'd be looking at) are 10" x 4.5" mounting points. Most mounting plates have four bolts that mount on the bumper (or wherever it'll be mounted) that hold down the plate. Then the plate slopes up to give room for the bolts from the winch to come down (another 4 holes). Depending on how big that piece where you're mounting the tow chains is, and how far in the winch will be mounted, you might be able to get away with mounting the winch directly above the hitch, and still clear the winch bolts around the chain mounts.(or move the chain mounts below the hitch instead of above). I just built a winch plate for a YJ at school, so the ideas are fresh in my head. __________________ Weekend Toy: '93 Explorer 2dr - Full-width D44/9" swap, disc f/r, 37" Nittos, 4.88s locked rear, hi steer '96 Explorer 5.0 - Lifted, Magnaflow, Mac, TMH, 33s, TOTALLED!! New DD: '01 F150 Supercrew 4x4 - Magnaflow Hi-Flow cats & Muffler, powdercoated FX4 wheels, leveling kit

03-18-2006, 08:16 AM	#3
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,185 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks, thats good info., need to think this out some more about those bolts clearing the hitch. Thats about the same size plate that I have. __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

03-18-2006, 01:22 PM	#4
DeRocha NEX Vice President Brockton, MA '93 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,642 Vehicle Specs	Just a thought but if your putting on a front reciever hitch then just get a hitch mounted winch. Most of the time the winch could be at home or rear hatch and only pulled out when needed.. Not being exposed to the elements will keep the winch looking and performing like new. Obviously if you plan on off-roading a lot then it may be more convienent to have both the reciever and a permanently mounted winch. __________________ John D-"Search first, Ask questions later" & "You can have my Explorer when you pry the keys from my cold dead hands." <<<Forum Rules >>>My Truck 4x4 Trouble Shooting Guide See how cars work Axle and tire calculators U-joint replacement info/pics Repair info NEX-New England Explorers NEX: Club Events

03-18-2006, 03:44 PM	#5
bmxking5 Rollover Posse Member Monroe, GA '93 Sport & '96 XLT Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,812 Vehicle Specs	^^^But those things stick out soooo far. Plus, what if you got in a position where you were unable to put the winch in the receiver? (like if you were really close to a rock, etc. __________________ Weekend Toy: '93 Explorer 2dr - Full-width D44/9" swap, disc f/r, 37" Nittos, 4.88s locked rear, hi steer '96 Explorer 5.0 - Lifted, Magnaflow, Mac, TMH, 33s, TOTALLED!! New DD: '01 F150 Supercrew 4x4 - Magnaflow Hi-Flow cats & Muffler, powdercoated FX4 wheels, leveling kit

03-18-2006, 07:53 PM	#6
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,185 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I like both ideas of a hitch mounted on the receiver and bolted above receiver closer to the body. During the months that I would not really be in the woods and trails and not needing all that heavy weight up front. leave the winch home like De Rocha said out of the elements and if I do go out ocasionaly leave in the back fastened down. But come fall when I'm on the trails on the farm from Oct to Jan bolt to the spot above hitch. I went to a 4x4 shop and looked at the bolt pattern that Warn uses, about 6 x 12 plate would be plenty big. They also had a receiver hitch plate there that the winch sets on with handles. So I don't thing I could go wrong with a plate mounted above the hitch, and then have the best of both worlds. __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

03-21-2006, 05:11 AM	#7
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,185 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Anybody know of any bumper receiver hitches that instead of coming straight out and putting the winch s out in front. Actually allows the winch to set back over bumper? I imagine with so many style bumpers this would be hard to make a universal one. I want to make one and thought that a pic would be nice. __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

03-21-2006, 02:59 PM	#8
Brian1 Elite Explorer Albuquerque, NM 1991 XLT Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,254 Vehicle Specs	From the main page- Fakrwee's Navajo __________________ Brian 91 XLT 4x4 and My Explorer Registry 1942 GPW Rock Crawler

03-21-2006, 04:45 PM	#9
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,185 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Nice, real nice thank for posting __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

03-21-2006, 07:43 PM	#10
RockRanger Elite Ranger Fresno CA 86 ranger no more Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,262 Vehicle Specs	If you live close to the ocean or have alot of moisture in the air dont leave it in the bumper. I remember fakarwee telling me his winch has rusted into the reciever to where he can remove it. Just keep that in mind. __________________ 93 ranger rock stock.