KAUFMANN PRODUCTS V8 SWAP KIT

mrtrout · 07-31-2001, 07:14 AM

Have any of you guys used the Kaufmann Products V8 swap kits? If so, what did you think of them? I am very interested in their shorter front accessory kit. Between it and their swap kit, it sound pretty complete. Their adapter to mount an AOD to the existing BW case is fairly expensive though. They quoted me $875.00 vs. AA's $535.00.

Thanks,
Bryan

BislamJoe · 08-05-2001, 03:07 PM

I'd like to hear about this as well. I'm planning my swap out right now, and need all the input I can get.

Sandy · 08-08-2001, 11:40 AM

L&L Products has the best kit on the market bar none and they also have the close fit kit for the front accessories.

If you can find a Mountaineer in the slavage yard you can get the part from it. At least it looks like the front stuff fits up closer.

The L&L Kit comes with motor mounts with a lifetime garrantee; an oil pan to miss the front suspension; a killer oil filter relocation kit, really nice; and the heavest duty headers on the market that are also garranteed for life against rust through. They can't supply a raditor but there are plenty of suppliers for them around.

I have used the L&L kit on my 88 Ranger and have a kit for my Navajo project, so I think they are good.

Good Luck and let the forum know how things work out.

Grumpy_ · 01-25-2009, 10:03 AM

does ANYONE have a set of the L&L or Kaufmann mounts that are NOT being used at the moment that they might want to part with or able to make(draw out) me a set of patterns so i can make my own mounts as im fixing to try to do my own plain jane 4 cyl Ranger to a Pro 5.0 Ranger Custom and need a set of mounts to do it ...... im tryin to do this as cheap as possible as im am disabled and on a LIMITED monthly budget and need all the input and help as possible. Anyway . i just thought i would as here if anyone would or could help me in this department .......... plus ill have many more questions to ask too on the radiator best headers Tremec TKO 600 mid-mount shift conversion wiring diagrams clutch slave cyl and a few more questions in a couple more departments too ............ ty for the help in advance ..... send all inquireies to my emial if you can too plz even if you post in the forums email is grumpy_01@hotmail.com TY in advance and Peace from Oxford

*94 Crawler* · 01-25-2009, 11:42 AM

Ok the cheepest way to do it is buy a wrecked 5.0 ex or mounty get the motor, harness, tranny etc... Mounts can be fabbed out of flat stock. bolted to the motor and holes drilled to line up with the stock 4.0 towers/mounts. I used duff headers but they are mighty close to my driveshaft now that I have done my sas. This is not a realy inexpensive swap. So expect to spend some money doing it. If I had a nickle every time I wanted to kick my own ass for starting this I might would break even. But I've gone a lot further with it than most. A run down.

Engine 95 302 from a F-150
GT-40 intake
GT-40y heads
roller rockers
comp cam roller
front timing cover, brackets, alternator, waterpump from a V-8 ex (These parts plus the GT-40y heads would have easily covered a junkyard ex engine and it already has the GT-40p heads and intake) fyi

Duff Headers
Ford motor sports computer and MAF
lots of little parts from summit that add up real quick.
I'm guessing I dont know I dont want to know Approx 3500.00-4000.00

Transmission zf-5 from A F-250 with a 351 Will not fit without a 3" body lift.
Clutch
fly wheel
new starter to work with zf-5
More little stuff from summit
Approx 1000.00

X-fer case np-203 np205 doubler
ORD doubler
32 spline imput shaft for 203 (because mine came out of a chevy)
Machine shop labor to mate 203 case to ford pattern.
rebuild kits for both cases.
relocate gas tank because old one occupies space for doubler
re lengthin drive shafts
more little parts from summit
approx 2000.00

And I'm shure there are people who have done it for less. Who were going to run it off road and dropped a 600cfm Holley on it and called it good. who put a c4,5,or6 behind it with a dana 20 x-fer case. To that point remember any full size x-fer case from the 70's on up will bolt to a full size transmission. Your mane issue with x-fer cases is hitting the frame rail.

The moral of the story is save up for the LL kit or duff or who ever. Because you will spend more than you save trying to source the little things. Good luck and happy wrenching.

With all that said when i fire mine up and it sounds like a mustang somehow all of the mony and time spent seam worth it.

*RFR2212* · 01-25-2009, 12:17 PM

I may have a huge amount of these parts that I'm willing to part with. i'll find my old forsale thread but it includes a 0 mile bored .30 over 302 to 306ci with a t-5wc from a stang to a dana 20 (need that) lots of wiring (may need a new harness but have good links to that) and tons of fueling,cooling, and exhaust parts.

07-31-2001, 07:14 AM	#1
mrtrout Wannabe Elite Explorer Northeast GA '92 XLT Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	KAUFMANN PRODUCTS V8 SWAP KIT Have any of you guys used the Kaufmann Products V8 swap kits? If so, what did you think of them? I am very interested in their shorter front accessory kit. Between it and their swap kit, it sound pretty complete. Their adapter to mount an AOD to the existing BW case is fairly expensive though. They quoted me $875.00 vs. AA's $535.00. Thanks, Bryan

08-05-2001, 03:07 PM	#2
BislamJoe Wannabe Elite Explorer Texarkana Texas 1993 Explorer 4x4 XLT Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 823 Vehicle Specs	I'd like to hear about this as well. I'm planning my swap out right now, and need all the input I can get. __________________ David Nash "Can ya hear me now?"

08-08-2001, 11:40 AM	#3
Sandy Wannabe Elite Explorer Boston Area 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Mar 1999 Posts: 1,416 Vehicle Specs	L&L Products has the best kit on the market bar none and they also have the close fit kit for the front accessories. If you can find a Mountaineer in the slavage yard you can get the part from it. At least it looks like the front stuff fits up closer. The L&L Kit comes with motor mounts with a lifetime garrantee; an oil pan to miss the front suspension; a killer oil filter relocation kit, really nice; and the heavest duty headers on the market that are also garranteed for life against rust through. They can't supply a raditor but there are plenty of suppliers for them around. I have used the L&L kit on my 88 Ranger and have a kit for my Navajo project, so I think they are good. Good Luck and let the forum know how things work out. __________________ SandyB, N1MAU/W1IO NnF000@gmail.com Do It Right The First Time !

01-25-2009, 10:03 AM	#4
Grumpy_ Wannabe Elite Explorer Oxford, Mississippi 1990 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5 Vehicle Specs	Help... Plz ??? does ANYONE have a set of the L&L or Kaufmann mounts that are NOT being used at the moment that they might want to part with or able to make(draw out) me a set of patterns so i can make my own mounts as im fixing to try to do my own plain jane 4 cyl Ranger to a Pro 5.0 Ranger Custom and need a set of mounts to do it ...... im tryin to do this as cheap as possible as im am disabled and on a LIMITED monthly budget and need all the input and help as possible. Anyway . i just thought i would as here if anyone would or could help me in this department .......... plus ill have many more questions to ask too on the radiator best headers Tremec TKO 600 mid-mount shift conversion wiring diagrams clutch slave cyl and a few more questions in a couple more departments too ............ ty for the help in advance ..... send all inquireies to my emial if you can too plz even if you post in the forums email is grumpy_01@hotmail.com TY in advance and Peace from Oxford __________________ Peace from Oxford Miss. Grumpy

01-25-2009, 11:42 AM	#5
94 Crawler Elite Explorer Stantonsburg,NC '94 Ranger SuperCab Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 324 Vehicle Specs	Ok the cheepest way to do it is buy a wrecked 5.0 ex or mounty get the motor, harness, tranny etc... Mounts can be fabbed out of flat stock. bolted to the motor and holes drilled to line up with the stock 4.0 towers/mounts. I used duff headers but they are mighty close to my driveshaft now that I have done my sas. This is not a realy inexpensive swap. So expect to spend some money doing it. If I had a nickle every time I wanted to kick my own ass for starting this I might would break even. But I've gone a lot further with it than most. A run down. Engine 95 302 from a F-150 GT-40 intake GT-40y heads roller rockers comp cam roller front timing cover, brackets, alternator, waterpump from a V-8 ex (These parts plus the GT-40y heads would have easily covered a junkyard ex engine and it already has the GT-40p heads and intake) fyi Duff Headers Ford motor sports computer and MAF lots of little parts from summit that add up real quick. I'm guessing I dont know I dont want to know Approx 3500.00-4000.00 Transmission zf-5 from A F-250 with a 351 Will not fit without a 3" body lift. Clutch fly wheel new starter to work with zf-5 More little stuff from summit Approx 1000.00 X-fer case np-203 np205 doubler ORD doubler 32 spline imput shaft for 203 (because mine came out of a chevy) Machine shop labor to mate 203 case to ford pattern. rebuild kits for both cases. relocate gas tank because old one occupies space for doubler re lengthin drive shafts more little parts from summit approx 2000.00 And I'm shure there are people who have done it for less. Who were going to run it off road and dropped a 600cfm Holley on it and called it good. who put a c4,5,or6 behind it with a dana 20 x-fer case. To that point remember any full size x-fer case from the 70's on up will bolt to a full size transmission. Your mane issue with x-fer cases is hitting the frame rail. The moral of the story is save up for the LL kit or duff or who ever. Because you will spend more than you save trying to source the little things. Good luck and happy wrenching. With all that said when i fire mine up and it sounds like a mustang somehow all of the mony and time spent seam worth it. __________________ http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=200101Michael Howell 94 Supercab Ranger 63 Chevy C-10 (Lowered and on the bottle) 86 Ranger, 90 Montero, 03 Protege' 5 (Wifes) 74 VW Bug "Ilsa The Volksrod" http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30689

01-25-2009, 12:17 PM	#6
RFR2212 Typing Police In the mug by Chitown 95 JEEP Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,358 Vehicle Specs	I may have a huge amount of these parts that I'm willing to part with. i'll find my old forsale thread but it includes a 0 mile bored .30 over 302 to 306ci with a t-5wc from a stang to a dana 20 (need that) lots of wiring (may need a new harness but have good links to that) and tons of fueling,cooling, and exhaust parts. __________________ My Truck Registry For those who can't spell, click HERE!!