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Old 10-16-2009, 10:11 AM   #401
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Well, The reason I mentioned it was the concern for a lot of rain to be brought up with the storm.
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Well, The reason I mentioned it was the concern for a lot of rain to be brought up with the storm.
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It's call the desert for a reason.
and Salton City has an annual rainfall of 3.33"
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The only thing you have to worry about at T-haven weather wise is the "BIG W" However I wouldn't want to be there when it rains All those wash we drive in are there for a reason!




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and Salton City has an annual rainfall of 3.33"
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1500 — Lake Cahuilla dries up for last time. Estimates range from 1300 to 1500. Agua Caliente Indians move into canyons.
1540 — Colorado River Delta explored by Melchoir Diaz.
1600 — Spanish start to explore Salton Basin. Continues into the 1800's.
1604 — Spanish Governor of 'New' Mexico, Don Juan de Ornate, explores and names the Rio Colorado.
1616 — Pearl hunting and trading expedition up the Gulf of California and into the Colorado River Delta led by Captain Juan Delturbe.
1701 — Father Eusebio Francisco Kino crossed Colorado River into Salton Basin.
1774 — Juan Batisto de Anza led expedition through Salton Basin, 'El Camino Del Diablo', to establish overland route to San Gabriel Mission. Said to have found wreck of the lost Pearl ship.
1782 — Don Pedro Foges made first trip from Colorado River to San Diego.
1815 — Report of San Gabriel Mission Indians mining salt. Expeditions start from Los Angeles to obtain salt.
1822 — Mexico gains independence from Spain.
1825 — Trappers, Kit Carson, Jedediah Smith, William Wolfskill, and others are recorded to have gone through the Salton Basin.
1828 — Record of flood.
1846 — Lt. W.H. Emory dispatched with troops from Ft. Leavenworth to protect Americans from harassment by 'Californians'. Exhausted after crossing Salton Basin, they were overrun by Mexicans and Spaniards at San Pasqual.
US enters war with Mexico.
1848 — US wins California from Mexico in Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. US/Mexico border established.
Gold is discovered at Sutter’s Mill, San Francisco
1849 — Dr. Oliver Wozencraft observed Native Americans growing crops around springs; corn, barley, and vegetables.
Dr. Oliver Wozencraft records flood in basin.
Gold discovered in Northern California. Gold Rush begins and traffic through the Salton Basin begins.
1850 — California admitted to Union as the 31st state.
J.R. Bartlett surveys US/Mexico border.
1852 — Record of flood.
1853 — The Gadsden Purchase. Lands bordering the US from California to Texas sold to US by Mexico.
Lt. K.S. Williamson (US Topographic Engineers) lead expedition with William Blake (Geologist) surveyed Salton Basin for railroad routes. Blake claims that the basin could be productive if it could be irrigated.
1855 — Williamson/Blake party experiences severe earthquake (probably 6.0 mag, in L.A.) and violent mud volcano activity in the south.
1858 — Butterfield Stage route through Salton Basin, passenger fare was $100, St. Louis to San Francisco took 25 days.
1859 — Record of flood.
Dr. Oliver Wozencraft receives support from State government for developing the basin, works toward federal support.
1861 — Outbreak of the Civil War diverts federal attention and support.
1862 — Congress passes the Homestead Act, which allows citizens to settle on up to 160 acres of surveyed but unclaimed public land and receive title to it after making improvements and residing there for five years.
Massive flooding.
Pacific Railroad Act, which authorizes the Central Pacific and Union Pacific Companies to build a transcontinental rail line along the 42nd parallel and provides public lands and subsidies for every mile of track laid.
1867 — Record of flood.
1876 — First Indian Reservations designated by President Grant. Torres-Martinez Desert Cahuilla Reservation established with a 640 acre grant.
First survey for an "All American" canal by Lt. Eric Bergland.
1877 — Southern Pacific Railroad crosses Salton Basin.
Congress passes the Desert Land Act, which permits settlers to purchase up to 640 acres of public land at 25¢ per acre in areas where the arid climate requires large-scale farming, provided they irrigate the land.
1885 — Desert Act opens area for homesteaders and developers. Dependant on artesian wells.
1891 — Flooding due to heavy rainfall.
1891 — California Irrigation Company formed by John C. Beatty.
Torres-Martinez Desert Cahuilla Indians are given 20,000 acres land on north side of basin.
1892 — New Liverpool Salt Company ships salt from basin to San Francisco.
1893 — California Irrigation Company declares bankruptcy.
1894 — The Carey Act grants one million acres of public land to arid states and territories on the condition they "reclaim" the land by irrigation and sell it to settlers. This attempt to promote irrigation of arid Western lands proves unsuccessful when states find they cannot raise the funds to mount large-scale irrigation projects. Effective land reclamation in the West will require a massive federal investment.
First drill used for well in Mecca.
1896 — California Development Company formed by Charles R. Rockwood.
1899 — Record of flood.
1900 — George Chaffey takes over California Development Company to build Alamo Canal. Leaves in 1902.
Calexico founded by G. Chaffey as a tent city for workers on Alamo Canal.
1901 — Alamo Canal opens into Imperial Valley, May 14.
1,000 people farming 100,000 acres.
Standard Salt Company starts mining salt in basin.
1902 — George Chaffey forms Imperial Land Company. Names the basin 'Imperial Valley' to attract settlers.
Bureau of Soils report for Imperial Valley states that soils "were so alkali that very few things could be grown on them."
President Theodore Roosevelt secures passage of the Newlands Reclamation Act, an unprecedented law authorizing federal construction of dams and reservoirs in the West funded by public land sales. The act is designed to promote settlement (rather than industry) by limiting tracts within the water project areas to 160 acres, in accordance with the 1862 Homestead Act, and is designed to be self-sustaining by passing the costs of construction on to water-users, who are to assume management of each project once the federal government has been reimbursed.
1903 — W.F. Holt installs first power facility on Alamo River. Sold to Nev-Cal in 1916.
1904 — 10,000 settlers in Imperial Valley.
Alamo Canal silting up, plans to relocate intake on Colorado River.
1905 — Captain Charles Davis moves to a volcanic butte, later Mullet Island.
Two floods in February and one in March breach dike and form Salton Sea.
June. 90,000 cubic feet of water per second going into the Salton Basin.
E.H. Harriman, president of the Southern Pacific Railroad, loans California Development Company $200,000 to repair canal. June.
June. Civil Engineer, C.E. Grunsky, of the U.S. Reclamation Service, described the situation as 'not serious, but sufficiently alarming as to require some attention.'
Sandbag and brush-mattress dam completed early November.
Flood, November 30th. Washes away dam. Breach 600 feet wide. S.P. Railroad tracks flooded.
1906 — April. C.R. Rockwood quits California Development Co., H.T. Cory replaces him as Chief Engineer. Southern Pacific Railroad takes control of efforts to contain flood and repair breach.
June flood. Breach is 10 miles wide and there is a 23(28) foot waterfall on the New River near Calexico. 75,000 cubic feet of water per second going into the basin. Salton Sea rising seven inches per day. Amount of sediment eroded equal to four times the amount dug from the Panama Canal.
November. Breach filled by Southern Pacific Railroad.
December 5. Flood breaches dike.
First report of sea being used by waterfowl.
1907 — Breach filled by Southern Pacific Railroad. February 10, 1907. Elevation of sea recorded at -195ft.
Totals - 13,000 acres lost to erosion; damage to rail lines over $870,000; 12,000 acres of crops lost; cost of flood control/repairs by S.P. Railroad estimated at $3 million.
Imperial County formed.
Land rush when oil was reported to have been found in area, 450,000 acres filed on.
1908 — First report, by Joseph Grinnel, of breeding colonies of birds at Salton Sea.
Captain Davis builds 'Hell's Kitchen'. Boatlanding, café, and dancehall. He is said to have released sea lions into that sea that were reported to have crawled out at night to steal local farmers pigs.
1909 — An additional 10,000 flooded acres held in trust for Torres-Martinez Indians.
1911 — Imperial Irrigation District (IID) formed,buys California Development Company.
1915 — Lord Mosley's Ostrich Farm in Brawley. 2,200 birds. Plumes valued at $350 per pound.
Old Plank Road' laid across Algodones Dunes by Colonel Ed Fletcher.
6.3 mag earthquake centered on Imperial Fault Zone, June 22.
1922 — Colorado River Compact. The States of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming, enter into a compact under the Act of the Congress of the United States of America to provide for the equitable division and apportionment of the use of the waters of the Colorado River System.
1924 — President Coolidge issues executive order for the Salton Sea to be used as a drainage reservoir.
1925 — Sea elevation is -250ft below sea level.
1926 — Gus Eilers and John Goldthwaite founded Date Palm Beach (later Desert Beach). Several movies filmed there. Popular area with soldiers. General Patton visits.
State Highway Commission builds asphalt/concrete road alongside 'Old Plank Road'.
1927 — Frontier Development Company first to drill for geothermal resources.
1928 — Boulder Canyon Project Act. Apportioned the lower basin's 7.5 maf among the states of Arizona (2.8 maf), California (4.4 maf) and Nevada (0.3 maf).
1929 — First boat races from Date Palm Beach. 2,000 attend. 5 world records set.
Stripped Bass introduced by CDFG, did not thrive.
1930 — Mudsuckers and pileworms introduced for fish food.
Salton Sea National Wildlife Refuge established.
1931 — Boulder Canyon Project Agreement (California Seven Party Agreement). Palo Verde Irrigation District, Imperial Irrigation District, Coachella Valley County W ater District, Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, City of Los Angeles, City of San Diego and County of San Diego agree to the apportionments and priorities of water from the Colorado R iver for use in California.
5,000 farms in Imperial Valley and 60,000 residents
1932 — Henry J. Kaiser proposed idea of digging a canal from the Gulf of California to the Salton Sea to facilitate shipping steel from Fontana steel mill.
1934 — Construction on All American Canal begins.
Silver Salmon introduced by CDFG, did not thrive.
1935 — Sea elevation is -248ft below sea level.
1938 — Construction on Coachella Canal begins.
1940 — Salton Sea Naval Base established.
Barnacles introduced to the sea through naval ships and sea planes.
6.9 mag earthquake centered on Imperial Fault Zone, May 18. Nine dead and $6 million in damages.
1942 — All American Canal opens.
1944 — B-29's fly practice missions and drop dummy bombs into Salton Sea.
The Mexican Water Treaty. Committed 1.5 maf of the river's annual flow to Mexico.
1946 — Date Palm Beach development sold to C. Roy Hunter. Re-names it Desert Beach. Starts Salton Sea Yatch Club.
Salton Sea Test Base taken over by Sandia Corporation for the Atomic Energy Commission.
1948 — Coachella Canal opens.
Upper Colorado River Basin Compact. Apportioned the Upper Basin's 7.5 maf among Colorado (3.9 maf), New Mexico (.84 maf), Utah (1.7 maf), and Wyoming (1.1 maf).
Floods and excessive agricultural runoff result in rise in sea elevation. Yatch Club and other area business are flooded.
1950 — Salton Sea second most popular recreation spot in California. Continues until 1970.
1951 — CDFG stock over 30 types of fish in Salton Sea. Only a few, Sargo,Corvina, and Croaker survive and multiply.
Salton Sea Regatta sets 21 world records.
1955 — Salton Sea State Park dedicated February 12. Second largest state park in California.
1956 — Elevation of sea is -234 feet below sea level.
Colorado River Storage Project. Construct, operate, and maintain dams, reservoirs, powerplants, and transmission facilities for the Upper Colorado River Basin.
1958 — North Shore established by Ray Ryan and Trav Rogers.
Salton City founded by M. Penn Phillips.
1960 — North Shore Motel and Yatch Club built.
1961 — Salton City development taken over by the Holly Corporation. 15,000 lots sold. Roads, sewers, powerlines, and watermains laid out but no houses built.
1962 — North Shore Yatch Club . Largest marina in Southern California. Visitors include the Beach Boys, Jerry Lewis, and the Marx Brothers.
1963 — Champion golf course and Yatch Club built. Visited by Desi Arnaz, Tommy Bolt, Harry James, and Johnny Weissmuller.
1964 — Tilapia get into Salton Sea through canals where they were introduced to control vegetation.
First commercial geothermal well.
State of Arizona v. State of California. Settles a 25-year-old water use dispute between Arizona and California.
1968 — Sea elevation recorded at -233 feet below sea level.
The Colorado River Basin Project Act. Authorized construction of a number of water development projects in both the upper and lower basins.
1973 — Minute 242 of the U.S.-Mexico International Boundary and Water Commission - Required the U.S. to take actions to reduce the salinity of water being delivered to Mexico at Morelos Dam.
1974 — The Colorado River Basin Salinity Control Act. Authorized desalting and salinity control projects to improve Colorado River quality.
1975 — Mid Seventies park attendance over 500,000 per year. Rivaled Yosemite for tourism.
1976 — Flooding due to heavy rainfall from tropical storm Kathleen.
Holly House Restaurant turned into casino by Linda Dresser.
1977 — Flooding due to heavy rainfall from tropical storm Doreen.
Casino and Yatch Club flooded and abandoned.
1979 — 6.4 mag earthquake centered on Imperial Fault Zone, October 15. $30 million in property damage, nine injured.
1980 — Sea elevation is -228.
1985 — Salinity level reaches 40,000 ppt.
1986 — State issues advisory about selenium levels in fish.
1987 — Avian cholera kills 500
1988 — Salton Sea Task Force appointed by the California Resource Agency. Without funds they disband in 1993.
1,000 dabbling ducks and other shore birds die from avian botulism.
1989 — 4,500 cattle egrets die from salmonellosis.
1990 — 500 birds die from several causes.
1991 — 2,000 deaths from avian cholera.
1992 — 150,000 eared grebes and ruddy ducks are found dead.
Over 2,400 grebes die of unknown cause
1993 — Salton Sea Authority (SSA) is formed. A joint effort between Riverside and Imperial counties as well as Coachella Valley Water District and Imperial Irrigation District.
1994 — Over 20,00 various birds die from several causes.
1995 — 2,000 birds die from undetermined cause.
Salinity level reaches 45,000 ppt.
1996 — Avian botulism outbreak responsible for 14,000 deaths
1997 — January: 50,000 tilapia die from Vibrio alginolyticus.
Wildlife hospital opens at Salton Sea Wildlife Refuge.
August: 1,000,000 tilapia die.
June: Newcastle disease confirmed as cause of over 1,900 double-crested cormorant deaths.
Almost 2,500 eared grebes die.
1998 — 250,000 visitors to Salton Sea.
Dr. Milt Friend named as executive director of the Science Subcommittee, formed to investigate environmental issues concerning the Salton Sea.
Congress passes the Salton Sea Reclamation Act directing the Bureau of Reclamation to prepare a feasibility study for restoration.
1999 — August: 7.6 million tilapia and croakers die.
2000 — January: California Sen. Diane Feinstein, Congresswoman Mary Bono and Deputy Interior Secretary David Hayes give speeches at the Salton Sea Symposium.
January: Pilot projects are approved and several alternatives are tested.
January: The release of a draft environmental impact statement/environmental impact report by the Department of Interior.
February: Public hearings in the Imperial and Coachella valleys to receive comments on Salton Sea Draft Environmental Impact Statement.
February: Salton Sea Authority and the Bureau of Reclamation conduct a demonstration of the ground-based enhanced evaporation system.
May: Salton Sea Authority will begin a series of pilot projects recommended by Parsons Engineering.
July: Salton Sea Authority to construct a series of small solar evaporation ponds.
July: Salton Sea Authority and the U.S. Department of Interior/Bureau of Reclamation have announced that they expect to select a preferred alternative for the restoration of the Salton Sea.
August: Wildlife Disease Program underway to help with early detection of disease outbreaks and clean-up response.
November: Congress approves bill to compensate the Torres-Martinez Indians for land lost under the Salton Sea.
December: The Salton Sea Authority enters into a partnership with the Salton Community Services District by funding a fish cleanup effort on the West Shore.
December: A pet food manufacturer evaluates Salton Sea tilapia and commercial harvesting of the prolific fish becomes a possibility.
2001 — January: Bureau of Reclamation and the Salton Sea Authority hold a pilot demonstration of an Enhanced Evaporation System.
June: Torres Martinez Desert Cahuilla Tribe becomes a voting member of the Salton Sea Authority's board of directors.
2002 — February: Salton Sea Authority evaluates the potential of using desalinization.
March: The Salton Sea Authority Thursday unanimously approves a resolution expressing concerns about adverse air quality impacts of the water transfer and opposed transfer projects that would significantly lower the level of the Salton Sea.
March: The Salton Sea Authority Board Thursday approves a contract with the University of Redlands to develop an environmental education curriculum focused on the Salton Sea.
May: The Salton Sea Authority opposes to water transfer projects that would significantly lower the level of the Salton Sea.
September: The Salton Sea Authority and Kent SeaTech Corp break ground on an innovative project to remove nutrients from agricultural drain water through the use of a natural process involving high-rate algae ponds and algae-eating fish.
October: The Salton Sea Authority calls upon the State Water Resources Control Board to fully preserve the viability of the Salton Sea restoration effort and hold hearings near the Sea to allow area residents to voice their concerns.
December: The Salton Sea Authority will be conducts an independent study of a proposal by U.S. Filter Corp.
2003 — January: Legislation announced limiting the Imperial Irrigation District's ability to receive Colorado River water.
March:Salton Sea CD Atlas released by Salton Sea Database Program, Redlands Institute, University of Redlands.
April: Salton Sea Authority Board of Directors unanimously endorse moving forward with the so called "North Lake" plan.
April: State Sen. Michael Machado amends his State Senate Bill 750 that would add $1 billion for a program to integrate restoration of the Salton Sea with water transfers.
September:Governor signs water transfer and new Salton Sea legislation.
October:Geotechnical work began in an effort to determine the best location for dikes in the Salton Sea.
October:New water transfer deal that included an estimated $300 million for Salton Sea restoration. The deal creates a closed water market to sell runoff from Imperial Valley farms to San Diego urban water users with some proceeds benefiting Sea restoration efforts.
October:Tax Increment Financing Feasibility Study.
2004 — February:Torres-Martinez Desert Cahuilla Indians become a full voting member of the Salton Sea Authority board.
March:The Salton Sea Authority’s boundaries are expanded to take in land area five miles around the Sea.
April:The Salton Sea Authority is proposing that local, state and federal agencies enter into formal agreements to collaborate on Salton Sea restoration efforts.
April:Salton Sea Authority's official endorsement of a restoration project for an 8-mile causeway that would split the Salton Sea into two smaller bodies of water: an 85,000 acre North Basin that would be about as salty as the ocean, and a southern section that would consist of wetlands areas as well as numerous recreational lakes ranging from fresh water to hyper saline.
June:Tom Kirk, Salton Sea Authority Executive Director since 1997 , resigns.
July:Imperial County Supervisor Gary Wyatt elected as Chairman of the Salton Sea Authority Board of Directors and Coachella Valley Water District Director Russell Kitahara appointed to the Salton Sea Authority board replacing CVWD Director Patricia A. (Corky) Larson.
July:An Outdoor Recreation Advisory Task Force concluded that the future of the Salton Sea can be a bright one. The task force was appointed in February by the Salton Sea Authority Board to evaluate the recreational potential of a restored Salton Sea.
August:Ron Enzweiler named executive director of the Salton Sea Authority.
November:The Salton Sea Authority pursues state legislation to put restoration of the Sea back in the hands of local authorities. The “Salton Sea Local Control Act” would designate the Authority as the implementing agency for the Salton Sea restoration project and free the Authority to implement a locally determined project which, in addition to providing permanent ecosystem and wildlife projection values, would also include recreational and economic benefits.
2005 — January:California Resources Agency announces that the Salton Sea Authority will receive $750,000 for a pilot treatment project for selenium removal.
Januaryept of Water Resources (DWR) conducting study of alternatives for ecosystem preservation.
January:State legislature controls $300 million in local funds designated for restoration. Sen. Ducheny asked to sponsor legislation to put Salton Sea Authority in charge so Local Restoration Plan can be implemented provided we secure $500 million in local/private financing.
2006 — October:The California Resources Agency released the Salton Sea Ecosystem Restoration Draft Programmatic Environmental Impact Report.
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1500 — Lake Cahuilla dries up for last time. Estimates range from 1300 to 1500

1962 — North Shore Yatch Club . Largest marina in Southern California. Visitors include the Beach Boys, Jerry Lewis, and the Marx Brothers.
There's a Lake Cahuilla but it's manmade and I don't know if it's the original location.

They are rebuilding the Yacht club...with tax dollars
might be completed now.

I don't know if they could ever clean that place up because it's so low. Everything flows into it like fertilizers from all the local farming and the New River in Mexicali which has some gnarly industrial waste flowing in it since it is largely unregulated down there.

When you guys drive out there on hwy 86, look along the mountains on the right and you will see where the water line used to be when it was an ocean.




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My last time out there a few of us drove down a wash to the shore, and there were thousands of fish skeletons in the sand. It's basically a wasteland, i doubt that place will ever be able to support life again. Structures in salton city don't seem to be fairing so well either.





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My house in a box!!

Thanks Froader.

This time next week we will be there. I can hardly wait!
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:43 AM   #418
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Colin is yours a 5.5' or 6.5' bed? and how do you like having a the cover on the bed? I'm not a big fan of shells Unless it's a Can Back
It's the 5.5 like yours.


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Froader, do you have a wide angle lense on your camera?
I took that with the wide angle GoPro Hero.




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Built a Camera mount for my Video Camera...What Ya Guys Think?




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Looks like it should work pretty good.




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