BTF Upper Control Arm/ 33" tires

chrisaw0811 · 12-29-2011, 07:01 PM

Thanks Ronin8002. How do you like your lifted 3rd Gen?

Has any part of the lift been giving you problems?

Also, I have a class III hitch and i was planning on flipping the hitch and grinding off the chainhooks and re-welding them on the correct side. Will this work?

chrisaw0811 · 12-29-2011, 08:07 PM

Also, was anyone able to remove the fan shroud without removing a radiator hose? Because when I went to remove mine, the radiator hose looked as if it was going to be in the way.

*HiImBrian* · 12-29-2011, 08:21 PM

James and I both made brackets out of 1/4" steel plates to lift the rear bumper(his idea). There are pictures and an explanation in his 1.5" BL sticky... I've been planning on writing up a "How to" on it. I'll start on it tonight for ya.. Give me until around mid-morning tomorrow.

And I didn't remove any hoses, but I know what you are talking about. I just muscled it out and back in again. It was more flexible after I trimmed it.

chrisaw0811 · 12-29-2011, 08:26 PM

Thanks a bunch!! I tried to remove it before the lift but then i read on here that it may be easier to do it after the body is lifted. I started the lift on Dec 26 and then we left on vacation Dec 27 and now we are back so I can finish up on the lift.

*HiImBrian* · 12-29-2011, 08:44 PM

There are hoses connected to the lower shroud that you need to take off before you pull it out. I'd still try to get it out before hand of I were you. Some people just leave it out, so you could always just do that....

*Ronin8002* · 12-29-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisaw0811

Thanks Ronin8002. How do you like your lifted 3rd Gen?

Has any part of the lift been giving you problems?

Also, I have a class III hitch and i was planning on flipping the hitch and grinding off the chainhooks and re-welding them on the correct side. Will this work?

No major problems with the lift, other than what everyone sees with front spindle to coil contact. Doesn't happen to me on speedbumps, just offroading. Body lift has been great, no issues at all.

When you do your spacer lift, I HIGHLY recommend making your own extended swaybar links, it's pretty cheap and easy and will really reduce the amount of body roll you get in when turning at speed. I just made some today and they work great. Here's a "how to" thread:

http://explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194211

For the bumper I think you'd be better off making brackets for a cleaner install but the bumper flip does work. You could always leave the bumper out and put just the bumper cover on for a few days if you have to have the truck up and running while you're making the brackets.

*Wills05xlt4x4* · 12-29-2011, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisaw0811

Thanks a bunch!! I tried to remove it before the lift but then i read on here that it may be easier to do it after the body is lifted. I started the lift on Dec 26 and then we left on vacation Dec 27 and now we are back so I can finish up on the lift.

It must be out when lifting body(lower fan shroud) or stress on the fan can/will very easily break off a fin or two and the fan is trash...think fan will be going down in reference to all the radiator etc moving up..

Maxstealth04 · 12-29-2011, 10:12 PM

so since you have to remove the shroud and be in the area, wouldn't that be a perfect time to do the electric fan mod?

*HiImBrian* · 12-29-2011, 10:59 PM

I suppose you could. From what I've read from other members that mod doesn't do well in the heat. It gets incredibly hot where I am here in FL, so that mod isn't even on my list.

Maxstealth04 · 12-29-2011, 11:13 PM

Does the mod have the fan run 24/7? In Iraq we had to remove the relay so the fan would run 24/7.

*HiImBrian* · 12-29-2011, 11:41 PM

I honestly haven't read that much into it.... I get crap gas mileage and I've already come to terms with that. I don't want my ex to be necessarily efficient, just run very well; and it does.

*Ronin8002* · 12-30-2011, 05:30 AM

If you do an electric fan make sure to use a Taurus or better yet, a Mark VIII fan. The two I tried were not up to the task even when they ran continously. I think making sure you have a shroud that covers the whole radiator is also important. Fiberglass would be a good way of making your own shroud.

It shouldn't need to run all the time if you have it set up right...only time it should run continuously is when your A/C is on.

Anyway at the end of my experiments I just went back the the clutch fan. I got better gas mileage with the electric ones but I was always worried about overheating, or keeping an eye on the temp guage all the time in case the fan failed. I feel that the clutch fan is much more reliable.

Maxstealth04 · 12-30-2011, 10:34 AM

Would dual fans be more efficient than a Mark VIII fan?

*Ronin8002* · 12-30-2011, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstealth04

Would dual fans be more efficient than a Mark VIII fan?

Not sure. All depends on the CFM they flow. From what I've read that Mark VIII fan moves some serious air. I don't know if there are dual fans that would fit that could match it.

chrisaw0811 · 12-30-2011, 02:13 PM

I was able to get the fan shoud out, but I did have to remove the radiator hose on the bottom. The lift would have been much easier if you didn't have to file out the steering extension. We should find someone that could make those specifically for 3rd gen's.
I will probably end up using brackets for the bumper like you guys did. Thanks for everyone's help.

*HiImBrian* · 12-30-2011, 02:16 PM

Just posted the how-to thread for the brackets.... Let me know if you have any questions.

*HiImBrian* · 12-30-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisaw0811

The lift would have been much easier if you didn't have to file out the steering extension. We should find someone that could make those specifically for 3rd gen's.

I used a bench grinder on mine...

*Ronin8002* · 12-30-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiImBrian

I used a bench grinder on mine...

I used a dremel with a sanding drum on it. worked well enough but I was paranoid about over-grinding so I took my time.

chrisaw0811 · 12-30-2011, 07:08 PM

I thought about using a bench grinder but instead I did about an hour of filing on each end because like you I was afraid of taking too much off. Lol. I finally finished the lift except for the rear bumper. Did anyone else feel a draft from the fan when standing next to the vehicle? When I walked by mine, I believe it was that driver's side, I felt draft... Hopefully I will be getting some 33's tomorrow

Does anyone have any for sale?

And thanks for the "How To" thread.

*Kazer* · 01-02-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiImBrian

James (Ronin8002) really knows his shit... As far as I'm concerned, what he says goes

x1,000,000!

12-29-2011, 07:01 PM	#21
chrisaw0811 Wannabe Elite Explorer Southern Michigan 2002 Ford Explorer EB 4.0 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks Ronin8002. How do you like your lifted 3rd Gen? Has any part of the lift been giving you problems? Also, I have a class III hitch and i was planning on flipping the hitch and grinding off the chainhooks and re-welding them on the correct side. Will this work? __________________ 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.0L 4WD Mods: 3" Bodylift, Sony Xplod 15" sub, Pioneer Head Unit, 1100 Watt Boss Audio Amp, 3" front, 2" rear Truxxx Spacer lift, 285 75 16 Hankook Dynotrac ATM 10, stock rims w/ 1" spacers. Soon to come:BTF UCA's, Superchips Cortex tuner.

12-29-2011, 08:07 PM	#22
chrisaw0811 Wannabe Elite Explorer Southern Michigan 2002 Ford Explorer EB 4.0 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Fan Shroud Also, was anyone able to remove the fan shroud without removing a radiator hose? Because when I went to remove mine, the radiator hose looked as if it was going to be in the way. __________________ 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.0L 4WD Mods: 3" Bodylift, Sony Xplod 15" sub, Pioneer Head Unit, 1100 Watt Boss Audio Amp, 3" front, 2" rear Truxxx Spacer lift, 285 75 16 Hankook Dynotrac ATM 10, stock rims w/ 1" spacers. Soon to come:BTF UCA's, Superchips Cortex tuner.

12-29-2011, 08:21 PM	#23
HiImBrian I'm the Doctor. St. Petersburg, Florida 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,167 Vehicle Specs	James and I both made brackets out of 1/4" steel plates to lift the rear bumper(his idea). There are pictures and an explanation in his 1.5" BL sticky... I've been planning on writing up a "How to" on it. I'll start on it tonight for ya.. Give me until around mid-morning tomorrow. And I didn't remove any hoses, but I know what you are talking about. I just muscled it out and back in again. It was more flexible after I trimmed it. __________________ 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.6L V8 MMR Stage 2 Heads - Ported Bullitt Intake - BanksPower TransCommand - CodeAlarm Remote Start - Hunter Brushguard - Custom Roof Basket - 3rd Cat Cutout - Straightpiped/Magnaflow Catback - 3" Body Lift - 2.25/1.75 BTF Spacers - F-150 Towhooks - 2" Wheel Spacers - HID's - 265/70/17's - EGR & PCV System Delete - AND MORE! My Registry: HiImBrian's Beachcomber

12-29-2011, 08:26 PM	#24
chrisaw0811 Wannabe Elite Explorer Southern Michigan 2002 Ford Explorer EB 4.0 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks a bunch!! I tried to remove it before the lift but then i read on here that it may be easier to do it after the body is lifted. I started the lift on Dec 26 and then we left on vacation Dec 27 and now we are back so I can finish up on the lift. __________________ 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.0L 4WD Mods: 3" Bodylift, Sony Xplod 15" sub, Pioneer Head Unit, 1100 Watt Boss Audio Amp, 3" front, 2" rear Truxxx Spacer lift, 285 75 16 Hankook Dynotrac ATM 10, stock rims w/ 1" spacers. Soon to come:BTF UCA's, Superchips Cortex tuner.

12-29-2011, 08:44 PM	#25
HiImBrian I'm the Doctor. St. Petersburg, Florida 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,167 Vehicle Specs	There are hoses connected to the lower shroud that you need to take off before you pull it out. I'd still try to get it out before hand of I were you. Some people just leave it out, so you could always just do that.... __________________ 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.6L V8 MMR Stage 2 Heads - Ported Bullitt Intake - BanksPower TransCommand - CodeAlarm Remote Start - Hunter Brushguard - Custom Roof Basket - 3rd Cat Cutout - Straightpiped/Magnaflow Catback - 3" Body Lift - 2.25/1.75 BTF Spacers - F-150 Towhooks - 2" Wheel Spacers - HID's - 265/70/17's - EGR & PCV System Delete - AND MORE! My Registry: HiImBrian's Beachcomber

12-29-2011, 10:12 PM	#28
Maxstealth04 B Jackson, MI '05 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 333 Vehicle Specs	so since you have to remove the shroud and be in the area, wouldn't that be a perfect time to do the electric fan mod?

12-29-2011, 10:59 PM	#29
HiImBrian I'm the Doctor. St. Petersburg, Florida 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,167 Vehicle Specs	I suppose you could. From what I've read from other members that mod doesn't do well in the heat. It gets incredibly hot where I am here in FL, so that mod isn't even on my list. __________________ 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.6L V8 MMR Stage 2 Heads - Ported Bullitt Intake - BanksPower TransCommand - CodeAlarm Remote Start - Hunter Brushguard - Custom Roof Basket - 3rd Cat Cutout - Straightpiped/Magnaflow Catback - 3" Body Lift - 2.25/1.75 BTF Spacers - F-150 Towhooks - 2" Wheel Spacers - HID's - 265/70/17's - EGR & PCV System Delete - AND MORE! My Registry: HiImBrian's Beachcomber

12-29-2011, 11:13 PM	#30
Maxstealth04 B Jackson, MI '05 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 333 Vehicle Specs	Does the mod have the fan run 24/7? In Iraq we had to remove the relay so the fan would run 24/7.

12-29-2011, 11:41 PM	#31
HiImBrian I'm the Doctor. St. Petersburg, Florida 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,167 Vehicle Specs	I honestly haven't read that much into it.... I get crap gas mileage and I've already come to terms with that. I don't want my ex to be necessarily efficient, just run very well; and it does. __________________ 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.6L V8 MMR Stage 2 Heads - Ported Bullitt Intake - BanksPower TransCommand - CodeAlarm Remote Start - Hunter Brushguard - Custom Roof Basket - 3rd Cat Cutout - Straightpiped/Magnaflow Catback - 3" Body Lift - 2.25/1.75 BTF Spacers - F-150 Towhooks - 2" Wheel Spacers - HID's - 265/70/17's - EGR & PCV System Delete - AND MORE! My Registry: HiImBrian's Beachcomber

12-30-2011, 05:30 AM	#32
Ronin8002 Elite Explorer Virginia 2008 XLT Ironman Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,873 Vehicle Specs	If you do an electric fan make sure to use a Taurus or better yet, a Mark VIII fan. The two I tried were not up to the task even when they ran continously. I think making sure you have a shroud that covers the whole radiator is also important. Fiberglass would be a good way of making your own shroud. It shouldn't need to run all the time if you have it set up right...only time it should run continuously is when your A/C is on. Anyway at the end of my experiments I just went back the the clutch fan. I got better gas mileage with the electric ones but I was always worried about overheating, or keeping an eye on the temp guage all the time in case the fan failed. I feel that the clutch fan is much more reliable. __________________ Mods: 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson Baja STZ on 17x8 Black Rock Viper 900B wheels, Bentley style grille, Raptor style LED grille lights, Pacer performance clearance lights, 30" 180W LED light bar behind grille, BTF upper control arms, Fox 2.0 5" travel emulsion coilover shocks in front/rear Truxx spacers, 1" body lift, front skidplate under radiator, recovery shackle mounts My Rig:http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...47#post3004247

12-30-2011, 10:34 AM	#33
Maxstealth04 B Jackson, MI '05 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 333 Vehicle Specs	Would dual fans be more efficient than a Mark VIII fan?

12-30-2011, 02:13 PM	#35
chrisaw0811 Wannabe Elite Explorer Southern Michigan 2002 Ford Explorer EB 4.0 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I was able to get the fan shoud out, but I did have to remove the radiator hose on the bottom. The lift would have been much easier if you didn't have to file out the steering extension. We should find someone that could make those specifically for 3rd gen's. I will probably end up using brackets for the bumper like you guys did. Thanks for everyone's help. __________________ 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.0L 4WD Mods: 3" Bodylift, Sony Xplod 15" sub, Pioneer Head Unit, 1100 Watt Boss Audio Amp, 3" front, 2" rear Truxxx Spacer lift, 285 75 16 Hankook Dynotrac ATM 10, stock rims w/ 1" spacers. Soon to come:BTF UCA's, Superchips Cortex tuner.

12-30-2011, 02:16 PM	#36
HiImBrian I'm the Doctor. St. Petersburg, Florida 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,167 Vehicle Specs	Just posted the how-to thread for the brackets.... Let me know if you have any questions. __________________ 2003 Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.6L V8 MMR Stage 2 Heads - Ported Bullitt Intake - BanksPower TransCommand - CodeAlarm Remote Start - Hunter Brushguard - Custom Roof Basket - 3rd Cat Cutout - Straightpiped/Magnaflow Catback - 3" Body Lift - 2.25/1.75 BTF Spacers - F-150 Towhooks - 2" Wheel Spacers - HID's - 265/70/17's - EGR & PCV System Delete - AND MORE! My Registry: HiImBrian's Beachcomber

12-30-2011, 07:08 PM	#39
chrisaw0811 Wannabe Elite Explorer Southern Michigan 2002 Ford Explorer EB 4.0 Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 16 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I thought about using a bench grinder but instead I did about an hour of filing on each end because like you I was afraid of taking too much off. Lol. I finally finished the lift except for the rear bumper. Did anyone else feel a draft from the fan when standing next to the vehicle? When I walked by mine, I believe it was that driver's side, I felt draft... Hopefully I will be getting some 33's tomorrow Does anyone have any for sale? And thanks for the "How To" thread. __________________ 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 4.0L 4WD Mods: 3" Bodylift, Sony Xplod 15" sub, Pioneer Head Unit, 1100 Watt Boss Audio Amp, 3" front, 2" rear Truxxx Spacer lift, 285 75 16 Hankook Dynotrac ATM 10, stock rims w/ 1" spacers. Soon to come:BTF UCA's, Superchips Cortex tuner.

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