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Barack Obama linked 2nd gen. SAS

So let me first start with a quick introduction .. my name is Barack Obama and apparently I'm the junior US Senator from Illinois :thumbsup: . I love slow walks on the beach and bed-side stories. Yeah I'm talking to you big boy:

Barack.jpg

Okay now onto the goods...

So recently I've been starting a few threads all relating to my Dana 44 front axle and other tid bits - so I figured it would be best if I just started an SAS thread to pull all of those threads together into one centralize place instead of having them floating about the sea of other threads.

Follow me now as I look back on the threads that I've started:

1) Reading Pinion Depth Number In this thread, I was confused on which number was the pinion depth offset number of my ring and pinion set for the Dana 44. After calling up the good people of Randy's Ring and Pinion, I was told that the numbers on the ring and pinion are no longer used for the pinion depth offset. So I'm like wtf m8!? They did give me a number to start from and so thats what I started with.

2) Ford 9" For Off-Road Use In this thread, I ask the general public what they think about the Ford-9" axle for off-road use. Conclusion, bowties - the GM 14-bolt axle with the stock Detroit locker is a God's send and so thats what I'm going with (it comes with a pinion bearing support - just like the Ford-9").

3) RE SuperFlex Assemby I've never put together a Rubicon Express SuperFlex Joint so in this thread, I ask the public how in the world these things are put togehter. And to be more specific, I was confused how to drive the plastic bushings into the housing. Conclusion - use a press <- faaantastic.

4) Hi-Steer Arms 10-degree Correction In this fabulous discussion, we discuss the ever-popular 10-degree correction that is often placed on High-Steer Arms. In the end, I decided to go with the Sky-Manufacturing arms (although I never updated the thread I dont think - darnit).

5) Dana 44 Ball Joint Sleeve > Replace? Ah finally, the pain in the asymptote. In this thread, which I have yet to resolve really, the problem is that the upper Ball Joint sleeve has frozen itself onto the "C" (aka inner knuckle). The issue has yet to be resolved so no conclusion yet.


Well then, lets dive into some concepts and design ideas.

3link_concept.jpg

As you can see, the front axle is located via a 3-link with a panhard bar. Each link will be mounted to the chassis using Rubicon Express Large SuperFlex Joint. Why go with the RE Joint? Well I was quite impressed at how much JEFE's front axle flexed - so I decided to go with the same joint. I recently asked him whether or not he has broken the 9/16" bolts used to attach the joint to the chassis and he said no - a big :thumbsup: . The link's body is made of a 2"x2" - 0.25" wall square tube - similar to Clayton Off-Road's long arms. Currently, my calculations are aiming for the bottom links to be 38.7" in length and the upper to be 34.2" (figures may change). This gives me an anti-dive of about 105% but I will make the upper link adjustable vertically at the chassis so the anti-dive characteristic can be fine tuned. The bottom links are angled "toe-out" becaue the Dana 44 is a "Wide-Track" axle and the Explorer's chassis is about 2" narrower than the Wide-Track axle's ideal mounting points. The "toe-out" angle however is not severe : about 2" out for the about total 38" length. The two bottom links are attached to the axle via a regular rubber-bushing. The upper "third" link is attached to the axle with the same type of rubber bushing except this one is adjustable - to allow for pinion angle changes.

Onto the front axle itself: As stated, the front "Wide Track" axle is from a Grand Wagoneer (I believe '86). Currently, its geared 5.13 with open differential. I'll throw in a locker in the future after I get this running. The axle was originally running the Wagoneer 6-lug bolt pattern but, because the rear GM 14-bolt is 8-lug, I switched the Dana 44 to 8-lug pattern using parts from a K20 (caliper bracket from a J20). As for the high-steer arms, as stated previously, I decided to go with SkyManufacturing's standard arms with the 10-degree correction angle (arms are on their way from CA).

The steering gear box is out of an IFS Toyota and the entire steering setup will utilize only Chevy TRE's except at the pitman arm.

The front axle will be suspended by Fox 2.5" Nitrogen Air Shocks with 16" of travel.

The rear axle, again as stated before, is a GM 14-bolt with a Detroit locker. Initially, it will be leaf sprung using the Explorer's stock leaf springs (with an AAL and WAR153s). However, I do plan on going 4-link in the near future after the Explorer starts rolling again.

Now onto some newbie pics..


The axle the day it arrived from New Jersey:
axle_pickup.jpg


Before last winter came, I emptied an entire can of Liquid Wrench (and other llubricants) into the differential to soak everything down in preparation for the following spring.
d44_greased.jpg


When spring finally came, the axle was torn down:
d44_housing.jpg


New carrier and new gears. The carrier bearings below are the set-up bearings which have had their inner races grinded down for repetative installation and removal on the carrier while the pinion and ring gear geometry was fine tuned:
d44_carrier.jpg

Spring also brought wheeling weather and I got high-centered on a rock so I decided to SOA the back for fun (the thing on the back is my snowboard and bike rack) and had to get my driveshaft retubed because it popped in half:
soa_backshot.jpg


The caliper brakets from a J20 after sand blasting and a coat of epoxy paint:
d44_caliperbracket_painted.jpg


Flat-top knuckles from a J10 masked off and ready for some epoxy paint:
d44_knuckle_ready_for_paint.jpg


Inner "C"s on the front axle sliced from the axle tubes (and temporarily knocked out about .125" for easier rotation) to set proper caster angle:
inner_c_sliced.jpg


Chevy K20 8-lug rotors .. "Oh my Mr. Obama, what big rotors you have. Why yes Sally, I do have big rotors." :
d44_rotor.jpg


Chevy K20 calipers:
d44_caliper.jpg


And finally for now, the RE SuperFlex joints:
re_joint.jpg


As for tires, right now I have a set of 36" TSL-SX's I bought for cheap from a local individual.


So what's in the future? Well the rest of the link parts are on their way - as well as the high steer arms. The Fox shocks will be purchased in about 2 weeks and the 14-bolt axle will be picked up about 3 weeks to a month after that. The rear axle is the least of my worries so that's the last thing on this Senator's mind.
 



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Its fine up to about 40 mph and then it shakes violently.

Its not the driveshaft and its not the wheels not being balanced, so I'm thinking its the alignment (toe in/out), which when combined with the huge tire lugs, results in the violent shake. So later on t his week or early next week, Im going to have it aligned.
 



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Why not just align it yourself? Doesn't take long at all.
 






IZwack, I spent my whole day getting through this thread, it's nice to see someone willing to spend the time to document such a task, this will make lifting my sons ex seem very simple. Thank you.
 






tune-a your name is AWSOME, send a pm to SPAS, just for kicks will ya? Tell her I asked you too. :D

theres alot more threads on here that are MUCH simplier and easier to follow, look around in the offroad section.
 






bmxking5 said:
Why not just align it yourself? Doesn't take long at all.
Care to enlighten me on self-alignment?

But I kind of want to get it done at a shop with a computer so I can be 100% sure.
 






Park truck on level ground with the wheels strait
Block rear tires
Dissconnect battery
Jack truck up
Remove front tires
Clamp some strait ege of metal to roters Angle iron works well here.
Make said angle iron level to each other
Use tape measure and adjust TREs on the tierod till the front number is 1/16-1/8" Max smaller then number in the rear. Make sure you measure from the same distance from the center of the wheel bearings front and rear.
Retighten jam nuts and reinstall tires hook up battery and you toe is set

For caster set an angle guage on the top ball joint nut. It should read 4-7degres with the back lower then the front. Adjust links to get it within 4 to 7. Probably around 5 would be best. Caster is set now.

Camber- if you have problems here your axle is bent or your ball joints wheelbearings or knuckle is jacked. Cant adjust it on a solid axle.
 






Hey those are some smashing ideas RockRanger -- thanks :D!!! I'll try that in a few days.
 






another way to do the Toe is mark a spot on the rear of your front tires in the center of the tread, mesure the distance between. (a assistant helps) then roll the truck forward so you have that same center spot spun 180* now mesure again. Should be about 1/8" However I was told when running 35" or bigger tires, it can be up to a 1/4", which is what mine is. Mine seem to be fine, tracks straight, and dosn't squeal around corners.

for Camber they do make inserts for the ball joints to adjust this.

Matt's right on the Caster, I need to order new c-wedges for mine, 7* ones are to much, I need 4* I think. :rolleyes:
 






Last week I was working on the rear shock things so here are two pics of my outboard mounted rear shocks :

Top side - driver's side:
shock2.jpg


Bottom side - passenger's side:
shock1.jpg

As some of you may notice, I re-used the GM axle bracket except rotated it so that it points forward.


And for anyone following this thread for his/her own SAS: I had to plug in the ABS controller in order for the speedometer to show a reading. But obviously I didn't actually need the entire ABS controller, just the circuitry. So below is kind of an 'exploded' diagram of the ABS controller. The only part I needed is of course the black box on the right with the yellow dot and the other two parts were left out to save some space .

abs_controller.jpg
 






IZwack said:
Last week I was working on the rear shock things so here are two pics of my outboard mounted rear shocks :

Top side - driver's side:
shock2.jpg


Look's like mine :D :thumbsup:

Rear_Shock2.jpg
 






Stic-o said:
another way to do the Toe is mark a spot on the rear of your front tires in the center of the tread, mesure the distance between. (a assistant helps) then roll the truck forward so you have that same center spot spun 180* now mesure again. Should be about 1/8" However I was told when running 35" or bigger tires, it can be up to a 1/4", which is what mine is. Mine seem to be fine, tracks straight, and dosn't squeal around corners.

The way I mentioned the 1/16 to 1/8" is measured closer to piviot point. A 1/16 close to the roter is probably about a 1/4" out at a 35" tire. A shop teacher I had said as the tire gets bigger the closer to zero you want you measurements to get. It make sence to me that that is the case as well.
 












Burns said:
You are making one nice rig. Nice.
Well we'll see in 1.5 weeks up in Paragon ;)
 


















Hehe thanks - I got them from.. CALIFORNIA!

I could have picked other colors, but my fav is green so had to go with it :D
 






i do not know if i just missed this or not but what made u go with a air shock setup like u have. i just have never thouht about it
 






Burns said:
i do not know if i just missed this or not but what made u go with a air shock setup like u have. i just have never thouht about it
Main reason:
An air shock has a very strange spring rate curve. It is nothing like a normal coil spring. This weird curve is what makes it great for crawling over rocks as it allows the axle to flex more without having much twisting force on the chassis - whch helps prevent the vehicle from rolling over.

The downside is that, without an anti-sway bar, the vehicle becomes a boat on the road - swaying left and right on normal turns <-- which is fun :D and dangerous
 






good. i have been trying to follow your build up because of the air shock setup. i am now thinking of doing that if i can come up with a good set of anti-sway bars.
 



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Sway bars! You don't need no stinking sway bars! :crazy:

Sway bars are for sissys! :p:
 






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