Hard to shift.

*Desicriminal* · 04-19-2012, 12:57 AM

Hey guys. It's an honor to be on this forum. I recently purchased a2003 explorer sport. I have only 2 problems with it as of now. The trunk latch is broken. So I can't open it. I would appreciate someone pointing me into the right direction. I'm also having a hard time shifting in to gears. It's like I have to yank it in place. Could it be just my shiter or the slave or master cylinder or is an issue in the tranny? Once again any help is greatly appreciated.

Trupal.

*Desicriminal* · 04-22-2012, 03:59 PM

Anybody?

Ranger Al · 04-22-2012, 06:41 PM

You may want to try bleeding the clutch a few times. If that doesn't help, try using the vacuum type bleeder. Again, if that doesn't help time for a new CLUTCH jobs, just make sure you replace everything new (slave cylinder, pilot bearing, ect.)

*Desicriminal* · 04-22-2012, 11:20 PM

Thank you ranger Al. The clutch was replaced about 30k ago. Not sure about the slave or the bearings. The motor was replaced 40 k ago. But I will be sure to go over what you said. I will post my results tomorrow. Once again, thank you.

Trupal

Ranger Al · 04-29-2012, 02:40 AM

The clutch system is one of the toughest to remove air. So, it is going to take a few tries to get where you wanted to.

JoieRomero · 07-04-2012, 02:20 AM

The motor was replaced 40 k ago. But I will be sure to go over what you said. I will post my results tomorrow. Once again, thank you.

*Naasau* · 07-10-2012, 06:56 PM

How goes? I had a similar issue with my manual, and even though I was only getting fluid out, bleeding it helped immensely.

Ranger Al · 07-14-2012, 11:33 AM

I know it is an old post, how does it go? If you have hard time bleeding and still doesn't work, inspect the brake assembly (thats the pot aluminum casting). The pivot point does break and will need to be replace.

Ranger Al · 07-22-2012, 03:18 PM

I've been searching and reading up on these master cylinder. The proper way to bleed these system is to bench bleed the master cylinder with the entire line off and do a bleed and the master cylinder have to be at certain angle where the air will come up to the reservoir as you push in the rod in gently back and forth.

Well, I wasn't about to remove the unit. But rather put ramps onto the rear end and drive it back to lift the rear of the truck. I then do my normal bleeding and sure enough after a few tries. NO MORE AIR coming out!

*Naasau* · 07-23-2012, 12:45 PM

So that worked?

Ranger Al · 08-06-2012, 03:18 AM

Yup, the air bubble start coming out. You also want to keep an eye on the reservior making sure it does not go empty and will see small bubble coming out of the hole. I guessed the key is to be patient and take your time.

*Anime* · 08-06-2012, 10:01 AM

Bleeding multiple times certainly does help, but when the master/slave wears out, they simply must be replaced to get the regular operation back. Otherwise no amount of bleeding will cure a mechanical issue.

Also keep in mind a fluid change sometimes helps, just be sure to use Dex/Merc ATF in the earlier transmissions that call for Mercon, and use Mercon V in the newer ones that spec it.

BlackLift · 09-24-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anime

Bleeding multiple times certainly does help, but when the master/slave wears out, they simply must be replaced to get the regular operation back. Otherwise no amount of bleeding will cure a mechanical issue.

Also keep in mind a fluid change sometimes helps, just be sure to use Dex/Merc ATF in the earlier transmissions that call for Mercon, and use Mercon V in the newer ones that spec it.

So which years qualify as the "newer ones"?

Having shifting 1-2 and 3-4 trouble with my recently acquired '99 4x4 Sport, that had a new clutch kit about 6k miles ago.

Thanks.

04-19-2012, 12:57 AM	#1
Desicriminal Elite Explorer NJ 2003 Explorer. Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Hard to shift. Hey guys. It's an honor to be on this forum. I recently purchased a2003 explorer sport. I have only 2 problems with it as of now. The trunk latch is broken. So I can't open it. I would appreciate someone pointing me into the right direction. I'm also having a hard time shifting in to gears. It's like I have to yank it in place. Could it be just my shiter or the slave or master cylinder or is an issue in the tranny? Once again any help is greatly appreciated. Trupal.

04-22-2012, 06:41 PM	#3
Ranger Al Wannabe Elite Explorer Fresno, California '00 FX4 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 474 Vehicle Specs	You may want to try bleeding the clutch a few times. If that doesn't help, try using the vacuum type bleeder. Again, if that doesn't help time for a new CLUTCH jobs, just make sure you replace everything new (slave cylinder, pilot bearing, ect.) __________________ 1. XLT Ranger 4dr 4.0 5 spd 4X4-> K&N filter, grill insert, Stainless steel skid plate, 98 Mountaineer front axles swap, factory motor transplanted and new clutch kit, 3" Flowmaster 40 dual outlet, hard bedcover, JamesDuff traction bars, Bilstien shocks. 2. 1999 K1200RS BMW motorcycle <fast German technology> 3. 2005 Suzuki XL 7, the only small SUV with 7 passengers I could effort under $15K 4. 1970 VW project -needs exhaust, interior, extrical parts..

04-29-2012, 02:40 AM	#5
Ranger Al Wannabe Elite Explorer Fresno, California '00 FX4 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 474 Vehicle Specs	The clutch system is one of the toughest to remove air. So, it is going to take a few tries to get where you wanted to. __________________ 1. XLT Ranger 4dr 4.0 5 spd 4X4-> K&N filter, grill insert, Stainless steel skid plate, 98 Mountaineer front axles swap, factory motor transplanted and new clutch kit, 3" Flowmaster 40 dual outlet, hard bedcover, JamesDuff traction bars, Bilstien shocks. 2. 1999 K1200RS BMW motorcycle <fast German technology> 3. 2005 Suzuki XL 7, the only small SUV with 7 passengers I could effort under $15K 4. 1970 VW project -needs exhaust, interior, extrical parts..

07-04-2012, 02:20 AM	#6
JoieRomero Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	The motor was replaced 40 k ago. But I will be sure to go over what you said. I will post my results tomorrow. Once again, thank you. __________________ Recommend the smash season 1 dvd, a very good-looking DVD!

07-10-2012, 06:56 PM	#7
Naasau Elite Explorer Denver Colorado '93 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 774 Vehicle Specs	How goes? I had a similar issue with my manual, and even though I was only getting fluid out, bleeding it helped immensely. __________________ I love my garage art.

04-22-2012, 03:59 PM	#2
Desicriminal Elite Explorer NJ 2003 Explorer. Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Anybody?

04-22-2012, 11:20 PM	#4
Desicriminal Elite Explorer NJ 2003 Explorer. Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thank you ranger Al. The clutch was replaced about 30k ago. Not sure about the slave or the bearings. The motor was replaced 40 k ago. But I will be sure to go over what you said. I will post my results tomorrow. Once again, thank you. Trupal

07-14-2012, 11:33 AM	#8
Ranger Al Wannabe Elite Explorer Fresno, California '00 FX4 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 474 Vehicle Specs	I know it is an old post, how does it go? If you have hard time bleeding and still doesn't work, inspect the brake assembly (thats the pot aluminum casting). The pivot point does break and will need to be replace. __________________ 1. XLT Ranger 4dr 4.0 5 spd 4X4-> K&N filter, grill insert, Stainless steel skid plate, 98 Mountaineer front axles swap, factory motor transplanted and new clutch kit, 3" Flowmaster 40 dual outlet, hard bedcover, JamesDuff traction bars, Bilstien shocks. 2. 1999 K1200RS BMW motorcycle <fast German technology> 3. 2005 Suzuki XL 7, the only small SUV with 7 passengers I could effort under $15K 4. 1970 VW project -needs exhaust, interior, extrical parts..

07-22-2012, 03:18 PM	#9
Ranger Al Wannabe Elite Explorer Fresno, California '00 FX4 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 474 Vehicle Specs	I've been searching and reading up on these master cylinder. The proper way to bleed these system is to bench bleed the master cylinder with the entire line off and do a bleed and the master cylinder have to be at certain angle where the air will come up to the reservoir as you push in the rod in gently back and forth. Well, I wasn't about to remove the unit. But rather put ramps onto the rear end and drive it back to lift the rear of the truck. I then do my normal bleeding and sure enough after a few tries. NO MORE AIR coming out! __________________ 1. XLT Ranger 4dr 4.0 5 spd 4X4-> K&N filter, grill insert, Stainless steel skid plate, 98 Mountaineer front axles swap, factory motor transplanted and new clutch kit, 3" Flowmaster 40 dual outlet, hard bedcover, JamesDuff traction bars, Bilstien shocks. 2. 1999 K1200RS BMW motorcycle <fast German technology> 3. 2005 Suzuki XL 7, the only small SUV with 7 passengers I could effort under $15K 4. 1970 VW project -needs exhaust, interior, extrical parts..

07-23-2012, 12:45 PM	#10
Naasau Elite Explorer Denver Colorado '93 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 774 Vehicle Specs	So that worked? __________________ I love my garage art.

08-06-2012, 03:18 AM	#11
Ranger Al Wannabe Elite Explorer Fresno, California '00 FX4 Ranger Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 474 Vehicle Specs	Yup, the air bubble start coming out. You also want to keep an eye on the reservior making sure it does not go empty and will see small bubble coming out of the hole. I guessed the key is to be patient and take your time. __________________ 1. XLT Ranger 4dr 4.0 5 spd 4X4-> K&N filter, grill insert, Stainless steel skid plate, 98 Mountaineer front axles swap, factory motor transplanted and new clutch kit, 3" Flowmaster 40 dual outlet, hard bedcover, JamesDuff traction bars, Bilstien shocks. 2. 1999 K1200RS BMW motorcycle <fast German technology> 3. 2005 Suzuki XL 7, the only small SUV with 7 passengers I could effort under $15K 4. 1970 VW project -needs exhaust, interior, extrical parts..

08-06-2012, 10:01 AM	#12
Anime GREEN SCREAM!! Hattiesburg, MS '93 Sport 4x4 Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,192 Vehicle Specs	Bleeding multiple times certainly does help, but when the master/slave wears out, they simply must be replaced to get the regular operation back. Otherwise no amount of bleeding will cure a mechanical issue. Also keep in mind a fluid change sometimes helps, just be sure to use Dex/Merc ATF in the earlier transmissions that call for Mercon, and use Mercon V in the newer ones that spec it. __________________ "I think man has always gone where he has been able to go, and I think that when man stops going where he can go, he will have lost a lot. Man has always been an explorer. To me, there's a fascination in thrusting out and going to new places. It's like going through a door because you find the door in front of you." - Michael Collins

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