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- 2003 Explorer
The engine in my 2003 Ford Explorer Sport V6, 4.0L w/auto trans will not start when cranking it over. It did not stall or run rough when it last ran. In the past the engine would seem to do this once in a while but give it a half hour or so and it would start back up.
Monday before this starting issue, the transmission would not shift up in gear when in drive. I was able to move the shifter to 2nd and the transmission would then engage this gear till you get to the next stop light or slowed down a lot. Once we started to look at the transmission problem the engine just stopped starting up all together. Not even the half hour wait will help it.
Now, It will rotate as long as the key is in start but the engine is just not firing. It does not buck as if it is missing a cylinder or two. There is no smell of raw fuel from the exhaust or any smoke being visible either from the exhaust.
What I have noted so far is that from reading the numerous entries on the internet pertaining to the condition, the likely candidates are crank or cam positioning sensors, the fuel pump, the ignition coil, PATs or the PCM.
We have done the following to try and narrow down to root cause;
• The Theft light will illuminate for ~3 seconds when the key is moved from off to run. It then turns off.
- Reports from the internet state that if the light turns off after 3 seconds all is good with the key.
• The Digital transmission range sensor will not let the engine crank over when the shift lever is in drive or reverse, seems to be working correctly in Park and neutral (starter is disabled).
• The fuel pressure at the valve at the end of the fuel rail is reaching a steady 65 psi when the key is moved from off to run, and still while cranking is 65 PSI.
- This pressure does not drop more than 1-2 psi when the key is off for a few minutes.
• All the spark plugs are receiving a high enough voltage to cause a spark and strobe an inductive timing light.
• The Fuel injector connections were tested with a NOID light. None of the injectors caused the NOID light to illuminate?
- The red line to the injectors is receiving a +12 vdc.
- The fuel injector control line does not seem to be grounding the injectors to supply the gas to the cylinders?
• The crank positioning sensor(CPS) was replaced as a precaution.
• Last night we checked all the wires from the connectors back to the PCM connector with a multi-meter for the following lines;
- Crankshaft and Camshaft Positioning sensors
- PCM engine temperature thermistor.
- Fuel injectors
- Ignition coil.
- Mass Air Flow Sensor (six wire).
At this point, is there any other causes for the fuel injectors to not work as a group?
• Maybe another sensor not listed above that could cause the Power train Control Module (PCM) to operate the fuel injectors?
• Or the has the PCM’s fuel injector circuit just died probably?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ken
Monday before this starting issue, the transmission would not shift up in gear when in drive. I was able to move the shifter to 2nd and the transmission would then engage this gear till you get to the next stop light or slowed down a lot. Once we started to look at the transmission problem the engine just stopped starting up all together. Not even the half hour wait will help it.
Now, It will rotate as long as the key is in start but the engine is just not firing. It does not buck as if it is missing a cylinder or two. There is no smell of raw fuel from the exhaust or any smoke being visible either from the exhaust.
What I have noted so far is that from reading the numerous entries on the internet pertaining to the condition, the likely candidates are crank or cam positioning sensors, the fuel pump, the ignition coil, PATs or the PCM.
We have done the following to try and narrow down to root cause;
• The Theft light will illuminate for ~3 seconds when the key is moved from off to run. It then turns off.
- Reports from the internet state that if the light turns off after 3 seconds all is good with the key.
• The Digital transmission range sensor will not let the engine crank over when the shift lever is in drive or reverse, seems to be working correctly in Park and neutral (starter is disabled).
• The fuel pressure at the valve at the end of the fuel rail is reaching a steady 65 psi when the key is moved from off to run, and still while cranking is 65 PSI.
- This pressure does not drop more than 1-2 psi when the key is off for a few minutes.
• All the spark plugs are receiving a high enough voltage to cause a spark and strobe an inductive timing light.
• The Fuel injector connections were tested with a NOID light. None of the injectors caused the NOID light to illuminate?
- The red line to the injectors is receiving a +12 vdc.
- The fuel injector control line does not seem to be grounding the injectors to supply the gas to the cylinders?
• The crank positioning sensor(CPS) was replaced as a precaution.
• Last night we checked all the wires from the connectors back to the PCM connector with a multi-meter for the following lines;
- Crankshaft and Camshaft Positioning sensors
- PCM engine temperature thermistor.
- Fuel injectors
- Ignition coil.
- Mass Air Flow Sensor (six wire).
At this point, is there any other causes for the fuel injectors to not work as a group?
• Maybe another sensor not listed above that could cause the Power train Control Module (PCM) to operate the fuel injectors?
• Or the has the PCM’s fuel injector circuit just died probably?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ken