Hole in Plenum
Today, I finally got to taking off the upper intake plenum.
First, just like everyone else, I must add...I would like to kill the engineer who designed that EGR pipe that runs from the EGR to the underside of the plenum!
I spent more time wrestling with that EGR tube than the actual job itself.
Here's my plenum covers taken off:
Here's pics of the underside of the plenum cover:
The front plenum gasket:
The middle plenum gasket:
The back plenum gasket:
Here is a view from the side of the plenum to see how flattened the gaskets are:
Now, my problem was probably not from the plenum gaskets themselves being flattened as opposed to sticking up a little like they are supposed to from the 1st post...but instead, I found my vacuum leak :scratch:
It was this nice hole near the EGR tube that I found.
It was probably caused when the DPFE failed, which in turn caused one of the vacuum hoses to fail, and thus the hose probably rested on the underside of the plenum. It probably looked like BP's underwater oil leak, pushing hot EGR gases onto one spot of the plenum's underside. The actual hole within the melted outer hole was about the size of a .22 bullet. I could not believe that this hole didn't stop my vehicle completely or that I did not hear the sucking in of the extra oxygen.
Now, I know why, when I sprayed carburetor cleaner near the DPFE that the engine raced some. I was thinking there was a leak in the gasket down below and there was a vacuum leak down there somewhere...I just could not figure out where.
Because I could not go to a junk yard today to pull another plenum, I went ahead and mixed some two-part plastic steel epoxy (1 hour cure time - up to 500 degrees rating) and filled in the hole nicely and made a nice patch.
Sorry I don't have any other pictures to post of the repair, my camera ran out of batteries at that point.
I did not bother to go any deeper down into the engine and replace that other thicker gasket under (what I guess is called the fuel rail - don't look like a fuel rail to me???). At that point, I figured I did not want to chance breaking any of those torx bolts, plus, I knew I was looking at a mess trying to line that EGR tube back up. I did replace the three rubber/plastic plenum gaskets though.
Thanks to this forum...many years later after its original posting - you helped my take on this job...even if it was probably not my problem to begin with but greatly assisted in finding my problem.
I'm going to let the repair cure overnight before taking it for a drive...but so far the engine's idle is just as smooth as before.
I wonder how many other defective DPFE's have taken out a plenum???