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Old 02-19-2004, 05:30 PM   #1
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Mountaineer AWD Disable?

I have a 5.0 AWD Mountaineer. Can I disable the AWD? I assume it is different than Control-Trac. If anyone has any info it is greatly appreciated.
I searched but didn't find anything about Mountaineer.
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Old 02-19-2004, 05:38 PM   #2
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No, the AWD Transfer Case is a permanently engaged. There is no electrical connections that can be "clipped" to fool the computer. I'm not sure if the you can just remove the front drive shaft or not. But the best way is to remove the T/C and replace it with the 2WD driveshaft and taleshaft.




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You can remove the front shaft and run it that way. I am not sure what the long term wear would be like though. Heath has been running that way for at least a few months now.




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How does the transfer case know to transfer power front or rear? It doen't use the wheel speed sensors? Is it all viscus couplings? I work for an Audi dealer so I understand Quattro, but I am unfamilar with the Ford AWD.
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From my understanding its all mechanical that uses a viscous copuling.




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it's allway's sending power to the front..all the time..nomatter what..35% to the front 65% to the rear FULL TIME
Varies front to back too. Not always the same tourque split.




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Up to 95% to either axle.




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Does it use a regular open diff in the front, or is that a LS? Or is it just basically a regular 4WD drive train with an AWD T/C(sounds kinda confusing, i know )




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The front or rear axles are sent more power if the system senses the wheels slipping. An AWD system would be worthless if it stayed at the same torque split 100% of the time.




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I don't think it's all mechanical.




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It doesn't take a computer to "sense" slipping.
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Ever heard of limited slip differentials? They work, basically, in the same way. Mechanically, it senses when a wheel is slipping, and applies power to the other side. The AWD tcase does the same thing, just to the driveshafts.

You can read about limited slips at www.howstuffworks.com . Search for "differential".

btw: I can figure out for myself when questions are hard or not.
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maby i am wrong but i thought limited slip has a cutch plate inside that sends power to both weels also allowing one wheel to spin when the clutch is overpowered.

for all wheel drive i think the rear driveshaft is perminatly connected to the tranny and the front through the viscous coupling




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You can remove the front shaft and run it that way. I am not sure what the long term wear would be like though. Heath has been running that way for at least a few months now.
Well does he loose alot of power to the front?




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If you have a 2WD option in the 4x4 system like my truck does, then you can leave it in that mode and remove the the whole front drivetrain and be fine, or so I've heard. When I swap in 2WD spindles, I plan on removing the CVs and front driveshaft. Eventually, I will dig out the axle. I'm gonna leave the t-case there too.




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Well does he loose alot of power to the front?
if you remove the front driveshaft you loose all power to the front and 100% is sent to the rear




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Since none of us work for Borg Warner and don't really know how the inside of the AWD transfercase really works, then let's stop guessing.


Things I know for sure about it:

1. It is an all mechanical transfercase. Absolutely no wires connecting to it.

2. You can still drive it with the front driveshaft removed.

3. If you do have the front driveshaft removed, use the parking brake everytime you park. If the truck is on an incline it will creep down the hill otherwise.

4. You can tow with the front driveshaft removed.
This last weekend I towed 6000+lbs with the front driveshaft removed.






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Duude.. did you notice anything weird going on? How was the power difference? Did you light up the wife's tires?




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This last weekend I towed 6000+lbs with the front driveshaft removed.
You're one crazy guy

After a bit of Googleing:
Rebuild pics of a BW 4404 (AWD) case




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