What model of BF Goodrich?

spta97 · 08-23-2004, 03:45 PM

I'm hearing everyone rave about the BFG All Terrians and I need new tires but I'm not sure what model to get:

BFGoodrichÂ® Radial Long Trail T/A LT255/70R16
BFGoodrichÂ® Radial Long Trail T/A P255/70R16
BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO LT255/70R16

Also, once I get the correct model number where is the cheapest place to get them?

Thanks.

*dman726749* · 08-23-2004, 03:48 PM

BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO

just shop around , i got mine at sears auto

*IAmTodd* · 08-23-2004, 03:50 PM

What are you going to using them for? Minor offraod? All street?

spta97 · 08-23-2004, 06:45 PM

I do 100% street driving. However, I wouldn't mind being able to go off road from time to time. I'm looking for a tire that has great street performance wet and dry and is also good in the snow.

I called BF Goodrich and they said the KO was not recommended for the Explorer and here were their notes on the other ones:

A/T Long Trail:
Not geared toward off road
Better wet than Rugged

Rugged Trail T/A:
Good all around tire
better off road performance

*dman726749* · 08-23-2004, 06:49 PM

hundreds of people here run the KO on their explorer including me and none have had problems. i love the tires and i do 85% street driving and so far they have been outstanding on the street. and supposedly they are great in the snow too.

spta97 · 08-23-2004, 06:53 PM

I compared the tires on the BF Goodrich site. The catagories are:

Tread Wear | Wet Traction | Quite Ride | Handling | Winter Traction | Mud Traction:

All-Terrain T/AÂ® KO = 6 7 7 6 9 9

Radial Long Trail T/AÂ® = 10 10 10 8 7 6

Rugged Trail T/AÂ® = 8 7 8 7 7 7

Open Trail T/AÂ® = 6 8 10 8 7 5

The Long Trail seems to be the best for me because most of the driving will be dry / wet.

*dman726749* · 08-23-2004, 06:54 PM

Should be a great tire for you then, let us all know how they preform once you get them

*Slybarger* · 08-23-2004, 07:03 PM

Personally I would go with the All Terrains. I had a Bronco back in the day that had them, and plan on running them again, as soon as I need new tires. I will admit a bit of road noise, but a lot less than most offroad/street tires. By chance did they give a reason as to why they were not recommended?

spta97 · 08-23-2004, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slybarger

Personally I would go with the All Terrains. I had a Bronco back in the day that had them, and plan on running them again, as soon as I need new tires. I will admit a bit of road noise, but a lot less than most offroad/street tires. By chance did they give a reason as to why they were not recommended?

They didn't give a specific reason but just said that Ford didn't list them as a compatible tire. They told me to check with Ford to see if they would be ok (only the Ruggeds and Long Trails were listed).

Now those numbers are comparing BFG tires to BFG tires so I'm curious why you would say that the lower number ones are better for me?

*Slybarger* · 08-23-2004, 07:57 PM

I was in the process of typing when you put the numbers up I think. The tire choice is ultimatly your of course. I've never had or went wheelin' with anyone that had the long trail TA's , but had very good luck with the All Terrains. Both on the street and the trail.

spta97 · 08-23-2004, 07:59 PM

Well now I have another question. Costco lists 2 tires in the ones I'm looking at:

P255/70R16 = $114.99 x 4 = $459.96
- and -
LT255/70R16 = $137.99 x 4 = $551.96

Almost a hundred dollars more for the LT. What is the difference? I'm confused

**JDraper** · 08-23-2004, 08:00 PM

KO's all the way! I now have 48k on my ko's and they still have decent tread. GREAT all around tire, as long as you don't mind a little whine. They don't whine much, but it's noticeable at about 20-30 mph.

**DeRocha** · 08-23-2004, 10:08 PM

I've had KO's for 8yrs.. The First set lasted 55K miles and I working on my 2nd set. As for Ford's recommendation I take it with a grain of salt.. The tires on their recommend "list" are probably very short.

*jrgaylor* · 08-23-2004, 10:29 PM

LT= light truck

**Blee1099** · 08-23-2004, 10:34 PM

Definately go with BFG AT KO.. You'll be happy.. Those Long Trail T/A & Rugged Trails T/A suck.. I had Long Trail T/A and they had no grip in the snow compared to AT KOs

*Jason94sport* · 08-24-2004, 11:18 AM

They only said that because of libailty concerns. You know roll over tire blowouts. I'd bet they didn't even look it up by year. Just "Explorer" I had a set of the old version All terrains & they were great. I am getting a set of 31's soon.

spta97 · 08-24-2004, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrgaylor

LT= light truck

But is there a differenc in the tire it's self? I mean it's $25 more per tire for the "LT".

*Jason94sport* · 08-24-2004, 12:54 PM

Higher load rating is all I can think of.

08-23-2004, 03:45 PM	#1
spta97 Wannabe Elite Explorer NY, NY 2000 5.0 AWD Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,038 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	What model of BF Goodrich? I'm hearing everyone rave about the BFG All Terrians and I need new tires but I'm not sure what model to get: BFGoodrichÂ® Radial Long Trail T/A LT255/70R16 BFGoodrichÂ® Radial Long Trail T/A P255/70R16 BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO LT255/70R16 Also, once I get the correct model number where is the cheapest place to get them? Thanks.

08-23-2004, 03:48 PM	#2
dman726749 Mall Crawler Greenwood Indiana 96 xlt Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,768 Vehicle Specs	BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO just shop around , i got mine at sears auto __________________ Dustin 96 XLT 2" tt and war shackles, 3" b/l 33" X-Terrains, Custom Snorkel Sold Dman726749's 96 X!!! 2006 F150 FX4 Super Crew Indianapolis Indiana Senior Portrait and Wedding Photography

08-23-2004, 03:50 PM	#3
IAmTodd Explorer Addict Johnstown, PA 1994 Explorer XLT Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,769 Vehicle Specs	What are you going to using them for? Minor offraod? All street? __________________ 1994 Explorer XLT \| M5R1 swap \| 2" Lift \| 32" ProComp Mud Terrains 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero \| 2.8 Full pressure turbo \| 6MT \| 280whp/325wtq

08-23-2004, 06:49 PM	#5
dman726749 Mall Crawler Greenwood Indiana 96 xlt Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,768 Vehicle Specs	hundreds of people here run the KO on their explorer including me and none have had problems. i love the tires and i do 85% street driving and so far they have been outstanding on the street. and supposedly they are great in the snow too. __________________ Dustin 96 XLT 2" tt and war shackles, 3" b/l 33" X-Terrains, Custom Snorkel Sold Dman726749's 96 X!!! 2006 F150 FX4 Super Crew Indianapolis Indiana Senior Portrait and Wedding Photography

08-23-2004, 06:54 PM	#7
dman726749 Mall Crawler Greenwood Indiana 96 xlt Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,768 Vehicle Specs	Should be a great tire for you then, let us all know how they preform once you get them __________________ Dustin 96 XLT 2" tt and war shackles, 3" b/l 33" X-Terrains, Custom Snorkel Sold Dman726749's 96 X!!! 2006 F150 FX4 Super Crew Indianapolis Indiana Senior Portrait and Wedding Photography

08-23-2004, 06:45 PM	#4
spta97 Wannabe Elite Explorer NY, NY 2000 5.0 AWD Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,038 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I do 100% street driving. However, I wouldn't mind being able to go off road from time to time. I'm looking for a tire that has great street performance wet and dry and is also good in the snow. I called BF Goodrich and they said the KO was not recommended for the Explorer and here were their notes on the other ones: A/T Long Trail: Not geared toward off road Better wet than Rugged Rugged Trail T/A: Good all around tire better off road performance

08-23-2004, 06:53 PM	#6
spta97 Wannabe Elite Explorer NY, NY 2000 5.0 AWD Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,038 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I compared the tires on the BF Goodrich site. The catagories are: Tread Wear \| Wet Traction \| Quite Ride \| Handling \| Winter Traction \| Mud Traction: All-Terrain T/AÂ® KO = 6 7 7 6 9 9 Radial Long Trail T/AÂ® = 10 10 10 8 7 6 Rugged Trail T/AÂ® = 8 7 8 7 7 7 Open Trail T/AÂ® = 6 8 10 8 7 5 The Long Trail seems to be the best for me because most of the driving will be dry / wet.

08-23-2004, 07:03 PM	#8
Slybarger Elite Explorer Granite City,IL 93 XLT 4 Door Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 263 Vehicle Specs	Personally I would go with the All Terrains. I had a Bronco back in the day that had them, and plan on running them again, as soon as I need new tires. I will admit a bit of road noise, but a lot less than most offroad/street tires. By chance did they give a reason as to why they were not recommended? __________________ Life Is A Gift, LIVE IT GO WHEELIN' My Car Domain Page Silver Anniversary Bronco

08-23-2004, 07:57 PM	#10
Slybarger Elite Explorer Granite City,IL 93 XLT 4 Door Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 263 Vehicle Specs	I was in the process of typing when you put the numbers up I think. The tire choice is ultimatly your of course. I've never had or went wheelin' with anyone that had the long trail TA's , but had very good luck with the All Terrains. Both on the street and the trail. __________________ Life Is A Gift, LIVE IT GO WHEELIN' My Car Domain Page Silver Anniversary Bronco

08-23-2004, 07:59 PM	#11
spta97 Wannabe Elite Explorer NY, NY 2000 5.0 AWD Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,038 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Well now I have another question. Costco lists 2 tires in the ones I'm looking at: P255/70R16 = $114.99 x 4 = $459.96 - and - LT255/70R16 = $137.99 x 4 = $551.96 Almost a hundred dollars more for the LT. What is the difference? I'm confused

08-23-2004, 08:00 PM	#12
JDraper Elite Garage Builder McVeytown, PA '11 XLT Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 15,398 Vehicle Specs	KO's all the way! I now have 48k on my ko's and they still have decent tread. GREAT all around tire, as long as you don't mind a little whine. They don't whine much, but it's noticeable at about 20-30 mph. __________________ Moderator..Home Improvement/Explorer 911/2011 Explorer Forum You took my breath away....and now I want it back.... '66 Mustang Coupe, '04 Mustang Mach 1, '08 Focus, '11 Explorer XLT "Ex"plorer's: '92 Sport, '94 Sport, '01 XLS Our Crappy Website

08-23-2004, 10:08 PM	#13
DeRocha NEX Vice President Brockton, MA '93 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,641 Vehicle Specs	I've had KO's for 8yrs.. The First set lasted 55K miles and I working on my 2nd set. As for Ford's recommendation I take it with a grain of salt.. The tires on their recommend "list" are probably very short. __________________ John D-"Search first, Ask questions later" & "You can have my Explorer when you pry the keys from my cold dead hands." <<<Forum Rules >>>My Truck 4x4 Trouble Shooting Guide See how cars work Axle and tire calculators U-joint replacement info/pics Repair info NEX-New England Explorers NEX: Club Events

08-23-2004, 10:29 PM	#14
jrgaylor Power through it! onalaska, Washington 1988 BroncoII Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,478 Vehicle Specs	LT= light truck __________________ 88 BroncoII 4.0/C5/1350/1354/D44/9" 72 Bronco 302 I have a matched set of early bronco axles for sale D44 and 9" for sale PM me for price and details.

08-23-2004, 10:34 PM	#15
Blee1099 Evil Asian Elkridge, MD 91 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 14,327 Vehicle Specs	Definately go with BFG AT KO.. You'll be happy.. Those Long Trail T/A & Rugged Trails T/A suck.. I had Long Trail T/A and they had no grip in the snow compared to AT KOs __________________ Decals & Stickers EF Shirts EF Pullover Hoodies EF Zip Up Hoodies EF Travel Coffee Mugs Buy Any 2 and get 2nd half off Bottoms Up Rock Racing

08-24-2004, 11:18 AM	#16
Jason94sport Elite Explorer South FL 93 Sport 2WD 5 speed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,469 Vehicle Specs	They only said that because of libailty concerns. You know roll over tire blowouts. I'd bet they didn't even look it up by year. Just "Explorer" I had a set of the old version All terrains & they were great. I am getting a set of 31's soon.

08-24-2004, 12:54 PM	#18
Jason94sport Elite Explorer South FL 93 Sport 2WD 5 speed Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,469 Vehicle Specs	Higher load rating is all I can think of.