4.6 liter V8 swap in a 95 ranger 2wd - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®

Ford_Racing_Guy · 10-04-2004, 10:02 PM

so...i'm thinking about buying back my old ranger from my aunt,

and i was thinking how sweet it would be to pull the engine and tranny out of my t-bird that i wrecked recently (that is if nothing is damaged, haven't gotten the hood open yet)

now i've heard about 302 swaps and i was wondering how difficult it would be to put in a 4.6L, with all the computer and electronic stuff,

has anyone on here done this or know of someone who has swapped in a 4.6?

*Stic-o* · 10-05-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ford_Racing_Guy

so...i'm thinking about buying back my old ranger from my aunt,

and i was thinking how sweet it would be to pull the engine and tranny out of my t-bird that i wrecked recently (that is if nothing is damaged, haven't gotten the hood open yet)

now i've heard about 302 swaps and i was wondering how difficult it would be to put in a 4.6L, with all the computer and electronic stuff,

has anyone on here done this or know of someone who has swapped in a 4.6?

It will not fit. It has to do with the frame is too narrow and the 4.6 is way to wide. Stick with the 5.0

Ford_Racing_Guy · 10-05-2004, 12:58 PM

i've posted it on a different site as well rangerpowersports.com,

and it seems to never have been done before, many have thought about it as well,

there is actually a guy that is attempting to put a 4.6 DOHC out of a lincoln in his 98 Ranger,

so if that works my SOHC should fit in one without too much trouble,

the reason that i wanna use the 4.6 is because i already have it, i'd just have to pull it out of my car

410Fortune · 10-05-2004, 01:36 PM

ANYTHING Is possible, it just depends on how much you want to hack out of that ranger.
The 4.6L is HUGE, the heads are huge and it is a very very wide engine
So sitting it on the frame rails and being able to clear the fenders and the hood is the challenge.

Of course it can be made to fit, but its not likely going to bolt in like a 5.0L can be made to do...

RiverRat · 10-05-2004, 08:10 PM

Someone had a pic of the size difference between the 5.0 and 4.6. When I saw it I knew doing a 4.6 in the ranger would be way too out of my league.

The 5.0 is tight enough.

Slush Box · 10-13-2004, 02:13 PM

One thing alot of people look at is the DOHC one is wider than the SOHC 4.6 Liter. I beileve that the SOHC engine can fit with moving some things around. Maybe move the Windshield Washer Fluid or something. I am looking into a 2002 4.6 Liter Explorer Engine for the Aluminum block for like$1,995 brand new. My 5R55E Tranny will bolt up to it so thats no problem just getting it to fit in there. Shit I will re locate the battery and make it work. The thing that makes me think it would work is they have put Modular engines in the old Fox Body stangs and there small. Even the DOHC Cobra engine fit and our Explorer's don;t have strut tower's to mess us up.

RiverRat · 10-13-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slush Box

My 5R55E Tranny will bolt up to it so thats no problem...

*IAmTodd* · 10-13-2004, 07:09 PM

You don't want the 5R series tranny behind it, believe me. Stock or Modified, it will not hold up.

As for size, 302 vs. 4.6DOHC

**Doug** · 10-13-2004, 08:13 PM

Holding up to the power isnt really an issue since a 5r55e will not bolt up to any 4.6l

Robb · 10-13-2004, 08:16 PM

If 4.6 trannys could bolt up to our 4.0 engines (and vice versa), no one here would still have a stock X automatic.

*IAmTodd* · 10-13-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug

Holding up to the power isnt really an issue since a 5r55e will not bolt up to any 4.6l

Then how's the 5R bolt up to the new 4.6 Explorers?

*boominXplorer* · 10-13-2004, 08:31 PM

Like this -> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33733

*IAmTodd* · 10-13-2004, 08:39 PM

5-Speed Manual. I though we were talking autos here?

*boominXplorer* · 10-13-2004, 08:47 PM

if you read the discription it sounds like they changed the whole bellhousing design

**Doug** · 10-13-2004, 10:26 PM

What transmission is that??? first off 3rd gen explorers/mountaineers aren't even available with a 5spd. Secondly it looks like it doesn't even have the extension housing. I did a search online for m5r4 and couldn't come up with anything.

Hell it doesn't even say in that auction what motor it's for, and they only want 450 for it. Seems kinda shady.

Oh yeah and the bell housing looks very very similiar to the pattern on the 4.0 ohv/ohc motors.

Slush Box · 10-14-2004, 02:35 AM

From what I understand the new 04 Explorer 4 doors have th option for a 4.6 liter SOHC V8. It has a 5 Speed Automatic behind it. Only 5 speed Auto that Ford has right now is the 5R55E which is what my 2001 Sport has. So what makes you think that it won't bolt up when it does. That picture shows the DOHC not the SOHC next to the OHV 5.0. The SOHC isn't as wide as the DOHC but yes it is wider than the 302. I say it can be done and will work on trying it out.

Also the new Mustangs will be sporting the SOHC 4.0 with a 5R55S Tranny which would be in the console instead of the column. Ok well the V8 one will also be using the 5R55S Tranny and thats behind a 300 horsepower 4.6 3 Valve Engine so I don't see why the 5R55E Transmission won't hold up.

*boominXplorer* · 10-14-2004, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug

What transmission is that??? first off 3rd gen explorers/mountaineers aren't even available with a 5spd. Secondly it looks like it doesn't even have the extension housing. I did a search online for m5r4 and couldn't come up with anything.

Hell it doesn't even say in that auction what motor it's for, and they only want 450 for it. Seems kinda shady.

Oh yeah and the bell housing looks very very similiar to the pattern on the 4.0 ohv/ohc motors.

Hmmm i dont know then.. I was just paying attention to the discrption

*IAmTodd* · 10-14-2004, 11:20 AM

Yes, early '02 XLSs had an option for the 5 Speed. They are very rare. I saw one on Autotrader a while back. But they were asking way to much for it.

Ford_Racing_Guy · 10-14-2004, 12:46 PM

ok that picture doesn't do me much justice when its a 4.6 DOHC,

i have the 4.6 SOHC which has much smaller heads,

the transmission that is used in my T-bird is the 4R70W, unknown if it would fit in a ranger or not without having to do some modifications to it

*IAmTodd* · 10-14-2004, 02:50 PM

The 5 speed was available on early '02 XLSs. I've seen a handful of them. So don't count that out.

Yes, that was a DOHC. But still compare block sizes. Its massive.

10-04-2004, 10:02 PM	#1
Ford_Racing_Guy Wannabe Elite Explorer Spencer, Wisconsin '92 XLT & '98 XLT AWD Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,798 Vehicle Specs	4.6 liter V8 swap in a 95 ranger 2wd so...i'm thinking about buying back my old ranger from my aunt, and i was thinking how sweet it would be to pull the engine and tranny out of my t-bird that i wrecked recently (that is if nothing is damaged, haven't gotten the hood open yet) now i've heard about 302 swaps and i was wondering how difficult it would be to put in a 4.6L, with all the computer and electronic stuff, has anyone on here done this or know of someone who has swapped in a 4.6? __________________ 92 - secondary trans cooler and aux filter, Custom Rust 1998 XLT - Kenwood headunit, MTX Thunder Amp and subwoofer, Magnaflow y-pipe Dynomax tailpip with summit glasspack

10-05-2004, 12:58 PM	#3
Ford_Racing_Guy Wannabe Elite Explorer Spencer, Wisconsin '92 XLT & '98 XLT AWD Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,798 Vehicle Specs	i've posted it on a different site as well rangerpowersports.com, and it seems to never have been done before, many have thought about it as well, there is actually a guy that is attempting to put a 4.6 DOHC out of a lincoln in his 98 Ranger, so if that works my SOHC should fit in one without too much trouble, the reason that i wanna use the 4.6 is because i already have it, i'd just have to pull it out of my car __________________ 92 - secondary trans cooler and aux filter, Custom Rust 1998 XLT - Kenwood headunit, MTX Thunder Amp and subwoofer, Magnaflow y-pipe Dynomax tailpip with summit glasspack

10-05-2004, 01:36 PM	#4
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,137 Vehicle Specs	ANYTHING Is possible, it just depends on how much you want to hack out of that ranger. The 4.6L is HUGE, the heads are huge and it is a very very wide engine So sitting it on the frame rails and being able to clear the fenders and the hood is the challenge. Of course it can be made to fit, but its not likely going to bolt in like a 5.0L can be made to do... __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-05-2004, 08:10 PM	#5
RiverRat Wannabe Elite Explorer San Diego, Ca 1996 V8 Ranger 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,414 Vehicle Specs	Someone had a pic of the size difference between the 5.0 and 4.6. When I saw it I knew doing a 4.6 in the ranger would be way too out of my league. The 5.0 is tight enough. __________________ Ranger + Explorer = RangePloder! 1996 5.0 4x4 EECV 4R70W

10-13-2004, 02:13 PM	#6
Slush Box Wannabe Elite Explorer Tallahassee, FL Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Vehicle Specs	One thing alot of people look at is the DOHC one is wider than the SOHC 4.6 Liter. I beileve that the SOHC engine can fit with moving some things around. Maybe move the Windshield Washer Fluid or something. I am looking into a 2002 4.6 Liter Explorer Engine for the Aluminum block for like$1,995 brand new. My 5R55E Tranny will bolt up to it so thats no problem just getting it to fit in there. Shit I will re locate the battery and make it work. The thing that makes me think it would work is they have put Modular engines in the old Fox Body stangs and there small. Even the DOHC Cobra engine fit and our Explorer's don;t have strut tower's to mess us up. __________________ 1999 Mazda Protegé LX (Current) 2001 Ford Explorer Sport (Sold) www.TallyImports.com

10-13-2004, 07:09 PM	#8
IAmTodd Elite Explorer 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,060 Vehicle Specs	You don't want the 5R series tranny behind it, believe me. Stock or Modified, it will not hold up. As for size, 302 vs. 4.6DOHC Attached Images

10-13-2004, 08:13 PM	#9
Doug Combat Sexy Crofton, MD 97 Sport Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,765 Vehicle Specs	Holding up to the power isnt really an issue since a 5r55e will not bolt up to any 4.6l __________________ 97 Explorer Life's hard. Wear a helmet.

10-13-2004, 08:16 PM	#10
Robb Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,419 Vehicle Specs	If 4.6 trannys could bolt up to our 4.0 engines (and vice versa), no one here would still have a stock X automatic.

10-13-2004, 08:31 PM	#12
boominXplorer What is a Tortion bar? Virginia Beach, Va 00 4x4 Mounty Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,149 Vehicle Specs	Like this -> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33733 __________________ 2000 Mountaineer 5.0 - RCD 5" Coilover kit, 3" body, 15x10 MT holes, 35x12.50 Xterrains, Front 3" Glass fenders, On Board Air, 4.88s, Mac Intake, Pro-M maf, FMS Headers, True Duals, MSD Coil Packs, Taylor 8.2s, Flexalite 180, Diablo Chip, 4406 Swap, Baumenn Shift Kit,1" Phenolic Spacer and lots more. 1998 Mountaineer 5.0 2wd - Mac intake, Ported everything, FMS headers, 3" Exhaust, E-fan, SCT tuned 4.10 Gears, Baumenn Shift Kit

10-13-2004, 08:39 PM	#13
IAmTodd Elite Explorer 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,060 Vehicle Specs	5-Speed Manual. I though we were talking autos here?

10-13-2004, 08:47 PM	#14
boominXplorer What is a Tortion bar? Virginia Beach, Va 00 4x4 Mounty Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,149 Vehicle Specs	if you read the discription it sounds like they changed the whole bellhousing design __________________ 2000 Mountaineer 5.0 - RCD 5" Coilover kit, 3" body, 15x10 MT holes, 35x12.50 Xterrains, Front 3" Glass fenders, On Board Air, 4.88s, Mac Intake, Pro-M maf, FMS Headers, True Duals, MSD Coil Packs, Taylor 8.2s, Flexalite 180, Diablo Chip, 4406 Swap, Baumenn Shift Kit,1" Phenolic Spacer and lots more. 1998 Mountaineer 5.0 2wd - Mac intake, Ported everything, FMS headers, 3" Exhaust, E-fan, SCT tuned 4.10 Gears, Baumenn Shift Kit

10-13-2004, 10:26 PM	#15
Doug Combat Sexy Crofton, MD 97 Sport Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,765 Vehicle Specs	What transmission is that??? first off 3rd gen explorers/mountaineers aren't even available with a 5spd. Secondly it looks like it doesn't even have the extension housing. I did a search online for m5r4 and couldn't come up with anything. Hell it doesn't even say in that auction what motor it's for, and they only want 450 for it. Seems kinda shady. Oh yeah and the bell housing looks very very similiar to the pattern on the 4.0 ohv/ohc motors. __________________ 97 Explorer Life's hard. Wear a helmet.

10-14-2004, 02:35 AM	#16
Slush Box Wannabe Elite Explorer Tallahassee, FL Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Vehicle Specs	From what I understand the new 04 Explorer 4 doors have th option for a 4.6 liter SOHC V8. It has a 5 Speed Automatic behind it. Only 5 speed Auto that Ford has right now is the 5R55E which is what my 2001 Sport has. So what makes you think that it won't bolt up when it does. That picture shows the DOHC not the SOHC next to the OHV 5.0. The SOHC isn't as wide as the DOHC but yes it is wider than the 302. I say it can be done and will work on trying it out. Also the new Mustangs will be sporting the SOHC 4.0 with a 5R55S Tranny which would be in the console instead of the column. Ok well the V8 one will also be using the 5R55S Tranny and thats behind a 300 horsepower 4.6 3 Valve Engine so I don't see why the 5R55E Transmission won't hold up. __________________ 1999 Mazda Protegé LX (Current) 2001 Ford Explorer Sport (Sold) www.TallyImports.com

10-14-2004, 11:20 AM	#18
IAmTodd Elite Explorer 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,060 Vehicle Specs	Yes, early '02 XLSs had an option for the 5 Speed. They are very rare. I saw one on Autotrader a while back. But they were asking way to much for it.

10-14-2004, 12:46 PM	#19
Ford_Racing_Guy Wannabe Elite Explorer Spencer, Wisconsin '92 XLT & '98 XLT AWD Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,798 Vehicle Specs	ok that picture doesn't do me much justice when its a 4.6 DOHC, i have the 4.6 SOHC which has much smaller heads, the transmission that is used in my T-bird is the 4R70W, unknown if it would fit in a ranger or not without having to do some modifications to it __________________ 92 - secondary trans cooler and aux filter, Custom Rust 1998 XLT - Kenwood headunit, MTX Thunder Amp and subwoofer, Magnaflow y-pipe Dynomax tailpip with summit glasspack

10-14-2004, 02:50 PM	#20
IAmTodd Elite Explorer 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,060 Vehicle Specs	The 5 speed was available on early '02 XLSs. I've seen a handful of them. So don't count that out. Yes, that was a DOHC. But still compare block sizes. Its massive.