Info On Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

MitchNwc · 06-17-2009, 11:48 PM

On my 2005 XLT one valve core is broken at the top. Turned too hard to remove.
Should I order a new schrader TPMS for that tire and then use the re-learn proc
with magnet or do I need to get a TPMS scan tool and register the new unit OR
is there a way to remove a bad valve core. Note the tire still holds pressure its only
the top part that is broken...

XCAMP · 06-18-2009, 09:02 AM

Hey there, just order a new TPMS sensor (I have seen them for around $50 online), have someone remove the tire, install the sensor, remount the tire, balance the tire, and then you will get the TPMS fault on your dash. That's when you can train the sensors with a magnet. No need for any special tool. The tool is to determine which ones dead or showing a low signal.

To train:

Turn key on and off 2 times and then on once more and press the brake, let off the brake, and turn to off. Then turn on and off 2 times and then a 3rd time, but leave it on. It will display train left front sensor in the dash. Put the magnet over the sensor, horn sounds, then go to the right front, repeat, etc.

Good luck!

jrford · 06-18-2009, 11:47 AM

update, i just did this, for an '04, on a side note the TPMS module will only take 4 wheels, if on your 5th rim (spare with the TPMS sensor) and when its rotated in, it has to be reprogrammed. I got the GM magnet on fleabay for like $20. I did try the depot, make yourself one which didn't work, i don't think it was strong enough. I bought mine off fleabay, the tire shop one didn't program for some reason, so i went the used route which worked.

XCAMP · 06-18-2009, 12:40 PM

I don't think my spare has a sensor but am not sure. Personally I wouldn't bother buying the GM magnet. I used some magnets off my fridge and it worked fine. Others have used those telescoping screwdriver magnets. Just hold the magnet directly over the sensor and it should work.

ckatkinson · 07-13-2009, 10:05 AM

I have an 06 XLT with stock 16" wheels with rubber valve stems. I guess this means I have the banded type TPMS sensors. Can I retrain these with a large magnet or do I need the special Ford Calibration tool?

Also, can anyone recommend an Explorer friendly OBDII software application that will work with a USB connection?

Thanks

Carl III

jrford · 07-13-2009, 02:00 PM

I could be wrong but a rubber stem means no TPMS. Mine is an '04 and is metal.

For software:
http://www.bowserelectronics.com/Pro...nner%20FAQ.htm

Ken4 · 09-02-2009, 03:56 AM

thanks for your information~Recently I got my TPMS too,i bought them from Myers and they are really good. They are easy to install and 100%compatible for various cars. They really have good quality and the price just around $100

I heared that they are from Orange TPMS manufacture, have you heared about that?

97sprt4x4 · 09-02-2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrford

I could be wrong but a rubber stem means no TPMS. Mine is an '04 and is metal.

For software:
http://www.bowserelectronics.com/Pro...nner%20FAQ.htm

this isn't necessarily true. There are three kinds of tpms that are commonly used in cars. there's the one directly on the stem that is metal like most fords have. then there is one that is banded to the center of the rim. that one i've broken a few times because there is no way of knowing that it is there... and the people that install them don't put them opposite the valve stem like their supposed to. the third kind is based off of the speed sensors in all 4 wheels and it averages them together and then when one spins progessivly less then all the others it illuminates the tps light. and if you ever work on a gm it doesn't matter if it's a rubber stem or not, they sensor screws into the bottom of the valve stem... it's really a terrible idea because they're very hard to distinquish from a regular rubber valve stem.

Hope this helps someone in the future
Justin

spikedog · 09-29-2009, 02:42 PM

I've been saturating the forums with info about a cheap TPMS reset tool that I've been using for a year now. You can get it from Ford for less than $20, and resets the blue rim-mounted sensors just fine.

It's part number #8C2T-1A203-AB, "TPMS SENSOR TOOL" and looks like a garage door opener with 1 green button in the middle. Use the ignition key / brake pedal procedure to get into the training mode. This works as well as those $300 universal handhelds. They are coming stock with ford vehicles starting with the '08 models.

I got tired of the tire shop monkeys breaking my sensors, and got snow tires mounted on stock rims with their own set of TPMS sensors. I figure I can make my investment in rims & sensor parts in about 4 years (even less if you add in the broken sensors).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...=p4506.c0.m245

I hate to paste a link for fleabay, but this is what the tool looks like. Buy it from your local Ford dealer and save $.

TEK · 10-28-2009, 02:54 PM

Thank you to all those that posted the TPMS retraining procedure; bgird, ExplorerDMB and gijoecam. I had a very slow leak, 8 lbs in 40-50 days, that kept tripping the low tire pressure warning. Adding more air each time reset the alarm. After the third go around on the same tire a tire shop suggested I replace the sensor/valve. I did yesterday only to learn the alarm function didn't go away. My 2004 Explorer retraining functioned as described in this post using a magnet to activate the direct-type TPMS sensor - the procedure worked the first time for me because of the detail provided. You saved me $41.40 for a "transmitter" (term used by the Ford Part man) in lieu of "magnet" or $128.00 in labor (quoted by a Ford service advisor). Let's hope the slow leak problem is solved as well. I used a 2" hockey-puck style magnet found at ACE hardware used for picking up scrap. The hole in the center of the magnet fit nicely over the stem.

tcox88 · 01-05-2010, 10:19 PM

Q: I bought aftermarket rims and tires and was wondering if the Schrader valve stem TPMS used from 2002 - 2005 would work on a 2006 Explorer or do I need to get the banded sensors?

TEK · 01-05-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcox88

Q: I bought aftermarket rims and tires and was wondering if the Schrader valve stem TPMS used from 2002 - 2005 would work on a 2006 Explorer or do I need to get the banded sensors?

I recommend you check your 2006 manual. If your manual says you have a TPMS monitoring system then you would purchase the stem sensor (approx $60-70 ea.) in lieu of the banded sensor. Perhaps a 2006 owner can help you better or check with a dealer if you are still uncertain.

abbas_fr · 01-19-2010, 01:09 AM

I met an accident some time last month and my car was pretty damaged, the tire front right was damaged too so i had to change the tire ring, i have replaced the TMPS sensor also the one with the silver starp but still there is a light for tmps on my dash board . is there anyway to resolve this , the sensor looked pretty intact when i changed to the new ring but i dont know it was done properly, is ther some specifications to fit the sensor or is it anypart of the ring. please help

tcox88 · 01-23-2010, 10:17 AM

Wondering if there is a way to turn off the TPMS warning in the vehicle as I know the tires and rims are new? Is there a step process to do this (ex: turn the vehicle on and off 2 times, put e-brake on, turn on once more scenario)?

alloywheels · 03-18-2010, 09:15 AM

I own a Ford Explorer 2004.
I m having "WARNING TIRE TOO LOW".
the pressure is fine in every tire.(also the spare one)
I had the messagge when I took the car after was parked for 3 hrs,
suddenly came up when I was driving.(outside temp 25C/77F
I have tryed tire pressure training procedure and I was able to train every single tire but did't cancel the TPS Warning.
I ve tryed to over-inflate and also disconnecting the battery for one hr.
Is there any other reset which I can still try?
If one of the sensor is damaged how would I recognize which one is it?

any suggestions?
pit

TEK · 03-18-2010, 11:27 AM

OK, great problem but I can only give you some of MY thoughts. Actually two thoughts.
1. Did you every have a low tire that you had to add air to. Start there as a possible tire with a sensor problem.
2. Since I had a flat tire recently the display showed another warning level beyond your warning, something like EXTREMELY LOW TIRE STOP CAR (not exact). Perhaps you can take each tire pressure down to flat, one at a time, and re-pressurize it. Since the sensor system does not operate all the time only responding to motion you will have to be patient. Maybe de-pressurize/re-pressurize one tire a day and then drive your car normally. Perhaps the warning will clear or reveal something else to you. Maybe other readers can weigh in on this problem for you and have better ideas. Good luck with troubleshooting.

alloywheels · 03-18-2010, 12:36 PM

thanks TEK for spending your time trying to help me out.I will try to do what you just wrote to see what's gonna happen...fingers crossed!

Col · 04-11-2010, 06:33 AM

Hello guys-...

Just to let you know the process to relearn works as you described in this forum....

When I bought the Explorer.. two months ago, the previous owner make a not safety fix in one sensor so I ordered the replace unit and installed it. But I didn´t have the donougt magnet.. so I use two of the inside magnets that my magnetic glass house cleaner thing has inside, just put those magnets on the top of the sensor and voala!!!... the proccedure to relearn passed from each tire of the Explorer...

So, any strong magnet will do the trick, just to let you know....

Thanks for your help and the information posted on this threat.

Jorge
AKA: Col

skiteach · 09-04-2010, 08:13 AM

Thank you Drew! I recently broke valve stem off while trying to check pressures, (05 Explorer) the local garage charged me $127 to install valve stem in carry in flat tire. The TPMS light would not go out, another $67 for the reset, which did not work. If I'd had the big ones, I'd probably still be working on cars professionally!

acechef76 · 12-08-2010, 02:00 AM

what about resseting with the other style? the clamp and band? any suggestions for that?

06-18-2009, 09:02 AM	#82
XCAMP Wannabe Elite Explorer 2005, XLT Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 91 Vehicle Specs	New sensor Hey there, just order a new TPMS sensor (I have seen them for around $50 online), have someone remove the tire, install the sensor, remount the tire, balance the tire, and then you will get the TPMS fault on your dash. That's when you can train the sensors with a magnet. No need for any special tool. The tool is to determine which ones dead or showing a low signal. To train: Turn key on and off 2 times and then on once more and press the brake, let off the brake, and turn to off. Then turn on and off 2 times and then a 3rd time, but leave it on. It will display train left front sensor in the dash. Put the magnet over the sensor, horn sounds, then go to the right front, repeat, etc. Good luck!

06-18-2009, 11:47 AM	#83
jrford Wannabe Elite Explorer Birmingham, MI '10 Sport Trac Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,520 Vehicle Specs	update, i just did this, for an '04, on a side note the TPMS module will only take 4 wheels, if on your 5th rim (spare with the TPMS sensor) and when its rotated in, it has to be reprogrammed. I got the GM magnet on fleabay for like $20. I did try the depot, make yourself one which didn't work, i don't think it was strong enough. I bought mine off fleabay, the tire shop one didn't program for some reason, so i went the used route which worked. __________________ Jim 2010 Mercury Mountaineer Premier, V8 AWD, 15k 2010 Sport Trac Limited, V8 4WD, 55k 2004 EB Quad Buckets V8 AWD, 105k

07-13-2009, 10:05 AM	#85
ckatkinson Wannabe Elite Explorer York, PA 2006 XLT Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4 Vehicle Specs	06 rubber stems I have an 06 XLT with stock 16" wheels with rubber valve stems. I guess this means I have the banded type TPMS sensors. Can I retrain these with a large magnet or do I need the special Ford Calibration tool? Also, can anyone recommend an Explorer friendly OBDII software application that will work with a USB connection? Thanks Carl III

07-13-2009, 02:00 PM	#86
jrford Wannabe Elite Explorer Birmingham, MI '10 Sport Trac Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,520 Vehicle Specs	I could be wrong but a rubber stem means no TPMS. Mine is an '04 and is metal. For software: http://www.bowserelectronics.com/Pro...nner%20FAQ.htm __________________ Jim 2010 Mercury Mountaineer Premier, V8 AWD, 15k 2010 Sport Trac Limited, V8 4WD, 55k 2004 EB Quad Buckets V8 AWD, 105k

09-02-2009, 03:56 AM	#87
Ken4 Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	good TPMS thanks for your information~Recently I got my TPMS too,i bought them from Myers and they are really good. They are easy to install and 100%compatible for various cars. They really have good quality and the price just around $100 I heared that they are from Orange TPMS manufacture, have you heared about that?

06-17-2009, 11:48 PM	#81
MitchNwc Wannabe Elite Explorer Voorhees, NJ '05 xlt '91 xlt Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	On my 2005 XLT one valve core is broken at the top. Turned too hard to remove. Should I order a new schrader TPMS for that tire and then use the re-learn proc with magnet or do I need to get a TPMS scan tool and register the new unit OR is there a way to remove a bad valve core. Note the tire still holds pressure its only the top part that is broken...

06-18-2009, 12:40 PM	#84
XCAMP Wannabe Elite Explorer 2005, XLT Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 91 Vehicle Specs	I don't think my spare has a sensor but am not sure. Personally I wouldn't bother buying the GM magnet. I used some magnets off my fridge and it worked fine. Others have used those telescoping screwdriver magnets. Just hold the magnet directly over the sensor and it should work.

09-29-2009, 02:42 PM	#89
spikedog Wannabe Elite Explorer Wyoming '06 XLT Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 Vehicle Specs	I've been saturating the forums with info about a cheap TPMS reset tool that I've been using for a year now. You can get it from Ford for less than $20, and resets the blue rim-mounted sensors just fine. It's part number #8C2T-1A203-AB, "TPMS SENSOR TOOL" and looks like a garage door opener with 1 green button in the middle. Use the ignition key / brake pedal procedure to get into the training mode. This works as well as those $300 universal handhelds. They are coming stock with ford vehicles starting with the '08 models. I got tired of the tire shop monkeys breaking my sensors, and got snow tires mounted on stock rims with their own set of TPMS sensors. I figure I can make my investment in rims & sensor parts in about 4 years (even less if you add in the broken sensors). http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...=p4506.c0.m245 I hate to paste a link for fleabay, but this is what the tool looks like. Buy it from your local Ford dealer and save $. Last edited by spikedog; 09-29-2009 at 02:48 PM. Reason: more info

10-28-2009, 02:54 PM	#90
TEK Wannabe Elite Explorer El Cerrito, CA 2004 Explorer EB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5 Vehicle Specs	Thank you to all those that posted the TPMS retraining procedure; bgird, ExplorerDMB and gijoecam. I had a very slow leak, 8 lbs in 40-50 days, that kept tripping the low tire pressure warning. Adding more air each time reset the alarm. After the third go around on the same tire a tire shop suggested I replace the sensor/valve. I did yesterday only to learn the alarm function didn't go away. My 2004 Explorer retraining functioned as described in this post using a magnet to activate the direct-type TPMS sensor - the procedure worked the first time for me because of the detail provided. You saved me $41.40 for a "transmitter" (term used by the Ford Part man) in lieu of "magnet" or $128.00 in labor (quoted by a Ford service advisor). Let's hope the slow leak problem is solved as well. I used a 2" hockey-puck style magnet found at ACE hardware used for picking up scrap. The hole in the center of the magnet fit nicely over the stem.

01-05-2010, 10:19 PM	#91
tcox88 Wannabe Elite Explorer 06 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	Q: I bought aftermarket rims and tires and was wondering if the Schrader valve stem TPMS used from 2002 - 2005 would work on a 2006 Explorer or do I need to get the banded sensors?

01-19-2010, 01:09 AM	#93
abbas_fr Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs	I met an accident some time last month and my car was pretty damaged, the tire front right was damaged too so i had to change the tire ring, i have replaced the TMPS sensor also the one with the silver starp but still there is a light for tmps on my dash board . is there anyway to resolve this , the sensor looked pretty intact when i changed to the new ring but i dont know it was done properly, is ther some specifications to fit the sensor or is it anypart of the ring. please help

01-23-2010, 10:17 AM	#94
tcox88 Wannabe Elite Explorer 06 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	TPMS - can it be turned off? Wondering if there is a way to turn off the TPMS warning in the vehicle as I know the tires and rims are new? Is there a step process to do this (ex: turn the vehicle on and off 2 times, put e-brake on, turn on once more scenario)?

03-18-2010, 09:15 AM	#95
alloywheels Wannabe Elite Explorer dubai UAE 2004 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	warning tire pressure very low TPMS I own a Ford Explorer 2004. I m having "WARNING TIRE TOO LOW". the pressure is fine in every tire.(also the spare one) I had the messagge when I took the car after was parked for 3 hrs, suddenly came up when I was driving.(outside temp 25C/77F I have tryed tire pressure training procedure and I was able to train every single tire but did't cancel the TPS Warning. I ve tryed to over-inflate and also disconnecting the battery for one hr. Is there any other reset which I can still try? If one of the sensor is damaged how would I recognize which one is it? any suggestions? pit

03-18-2010, 11:27 AM	#96
TEK Wannabe Elite Explorer El Cerrito, CA 2004 Explorer EB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5 Vehicle Specs	OK, great problem but I can only give you some of MY thoughts. Actually two thoughts. 1. Did you every have a low tire that you had to add air to. Start there as a possible tire with a sensor problem. 2. Since I had a flat tire recently the display showed another warning level beyond your warning, something like EXTREMELY LOW TIRE STOP CAR (not exact). Perhaps you can take each tire pressure down to flat, one at a time, and re-pressurize it. Since the sensor system does not operate all the time only responding to motion you will have to be patient. Maybe de-pressurize/re-pressurize one tire a day and then drive your car normally. Perhaps the warning will clear or reveal something else to you. Maybe other readers can weigh in on this problem for you and have better ideas. Good luck with troubleshooting.

03-18-2010, 12:36 PM	#97
alloywheels Wannabe Elite Explorer dubai UAE 2004 Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	thanks TEK for spending your time trying to help me out.I will try to do what you just wrote to see what's gonna happen...fingers crossed!

04-11-2010, 06:33 AM	#98
Col Wannabe Elite Explorer Bogota, Colombia Limited V8 2004 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 32 Vehicle Specs	TPMS relearn worked on 2004 Exp. Limited... Thanks Hello guys-... Just to let you know the process to relearn works as you described in this forum.... When I bought the Explorer.. two months ago, the previous owner make a not safety fix in one sensor so I ordered the replace unit and installed it. But I didn´t have the donougt magnet.. so I use two of the inside magnets that my magnetic glass house cleaner thing has inside, just put those magnets on the top of the sensor and voala!!!... the proccedure to relearn passed from each tire of the Explorer... So, any strong magnet will do the trick, just to let you know.... Thanks for your help and the information posted on this threat. Jorge AKA: Col

09-04-2010, 08:13 AM	#99
skiteach Wannabe Elite Explorer Woodbury Ct '96 XLT, '05 L '01F250 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7 Vehicle Specs	Thank you Drew! I recently broke valve stem off while trying to check pressures, (05 Explorer) the local garage charged me $127 to install valve stem in carry in flat tire. The TPMS light would not go out, another $67 for the reset, which did not work. If I'd had the big ones, I'd probably still be working on cars professionally!

12-08-2010, 02:00 AM	#100
acechef76 Wannabe Elite Explorer pittsburgh, pa '06 advancetrac rsc Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	what about resseting with the other style? the clamp and band? any suggestions for that?