How to tell transmission type?

jbburks · 09-28-2005, 08:32 PM

I have a 2002 4dr Explorer XLS with the 6cyl engine. How do I tell what type automatic transmission I have?

The maintenance schedule that came with it lists several models of transmission that need a fluid change at 30k miles. The schedule also lists other transmission types that DON'T need a periodic change, but nothing I can find under the hood or elsewhere tells what type of transmission is in the vehicle.

The dealer is no help at all. They just say change the fluid.

Brian_B · 09-28-2005, 08:40 PM

Look on the drivers door tag for a code and post it.

I would bet its a 5R55E. Personally, I see no need to change the fluid until around 60K in anything, but thats me. Others will post their opinons as well.

*dogfriend* · 09-28-2005, 11:59 PM

I think he actually has a 5R55W in the 2002. It is the first trans without a dipstick.

Check out this thread:

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ssion+dipstick

Also, see:

http://www.charlietranny.com/5r55w.htm

Brian_B · 09-29-2005, 12:09 AM

You are right. Another ford dumb design (IMHO).....sounds like taking a pinto transmission and adding OD. Yep...thats the wonderful A4LD.

*dogfriend* · 09-29-2005, 12:35 AM

Yes, seems not so bright to me either.

Lets recall Explorer transmission history:

91-94 A4LD - A modified Pinto trans which has gained a rep for blowing out at relatively low mileage

95-96 4R55E - An improved, electronically controlled A4LD, not quite as fragile but still has problems

97-01 5R55E - Beefed up a little more, electronic control allows another forward gear from the previous design. As far as I know, they don't puke their guts nearly as quickly, but still not the strongest link in the powertrain.

02+ 5R55W (4doorsonly, Sport-Trac still uses 5R55E) Apparently, Ford is so confident in their track record that they decide to make the tranny non-serviceable. I guess we will know in a few years if they are justified. Personally, I like having a dipstick so I can at least examine the color of the fluid on the stick, if nothing else.

Brian_B · 09-29-2005, 12:39 AM

Doesn't the new trans also say not to change the fluid for 150,000 miles? Never seen fluid last that long. Ch**y has lifetime anti-freeze and fuel filters now too. Its getting worse everywhere.

I bet the dealers tell you to change the fluid every 30,000, but bring it to them. $$$$$$$$$$

physh · 10-01-2005, 09:31 PM

if you have an a4ld can you bolt on a later model beefier tranny like a 4r55e or 5r55e? It is a 2WD automatic with OD
thanks,

physh

*dogfriend* · 10-01-2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by physh

if you have an a4ld can you bolt on a later model beefier tranny like a 4r55e or 5r55e? It is a 2WD automatic with OD
thanks,

physh

No, its not just a straight bolt in because the later models have electronically controlled shift solenoids; the A4LD does not. You would need to add the later model electronics or find an aftermarket controller for the 4R55E or 5R55E. This would take a lot of knowledge and research and money.

Some people have installed 700R4 trans (using a special adapter) in place of the A4LD. You could search on that to find more info.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ighlight=700R4

physh · 10-02-2005, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogfriend

No, its not just a straight bolt in because the later models have electronically controlled shift solenoids; the A4LD does not. You would need to add the later model electronics or find an aftermarket controller for the 4R55E or 5R55E. This would take a lot of knowledge and research and money.

Some people have installed 700R4 trans (using a special adapter) in place of the A4LD. You could search on that to find more info.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ighlight=700R4

thank you dogfriend, I appreciate your help.

physh

jbburks · 10-06-2005, 08:46 AM

The plate inside the driver's door says: TR:R.

The transmission has a dipstick for the fluid.

*dogfriend* · 10-06-2005, 10:49 AM

My manual is for 97 and doesn't list that code. For 97, the code for 5R55E was D.

**BrooklynBay** · 04-03-2006, 02:51 PM

Which manual were those transmission codes from? The dealers are always telling you that the newer vehicles don't require as much maintenance, like the 100k mile platinum spark plugs. In another thread, I saw that Amsol oil could last for 25k miles. It might be true, but what if it is inside of an old engine that was never maintained? I'm sure that these things wouldn't last as long. As for the 5R55W transmission without the dipstick, I'm surprised that no aftermarket manufacturer ever made a dipstick upgrade that could be attached to it. I'm sure that something could be easily fabricated.

*dogfriend* · 04-03-2006, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooklynBay

Which manual were those transmission codes from? .

Those codes are from the factory manual (CD version) for 1997.

Glacier991 · 04-03-2006, 04:03 PM

It IS possible however, to take the stronger internal parts from the 5R55E and put them into the A4LD case and have the best of both worlds. On here known as a "Frankentranny" - thanks to the idea and thread posted by Brain (it is in the stickies). So far ... far as I know, only Brain and I have built or are building them.

BillJ · 04-03-2006, 05:19 PM

Looks like it is a 5R55W.

http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_...2006.htm#Trans

Try this site also:

http://www.transonline.com/transID/default.asp

**BrooklynBay** · 04-04-2006, 10:36 PM

Here is the information from that link:

Axle Codes
L - Limited Slip Differential
C - Conventional Differential
Code Ratio
41 3.27C
42 4.10C
43 3.08C
45 3.55C
46 3.73C
D1 3.27L
D2 4.10L
D4 3.73L
D5 3.55L

Transmission Codes
Code Model
D (1997-2005) A5LDE / 5R44/55E
D (1992-1996) M5OD-R1
J M5OD-R1
J (2002 - 2003) R1HD / M5OD-R4
M (2000-2001) Mazda M5D4
M (1997-1999) M5OD-R2
M (1992-1996) M5OD-R1
R (2002) 5R55W
T (1992-1995) A4LD
T (1996-2001) 4R55E
U 4R70W
V 5R55S
X 6R60

**BrooklynBay** · 04-04-2006, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbburks

The plate inside the driver's door says: TR:R.

The transmission has a dipstick for the fluid.

That is odd. I wonder if it is really a 5R55W even though you have the "R" code.

Glacier991 · 04-04-2006, 11:26 PM

Fast way to tell the difference between a 5R55E and a 5R55W is to look and see if the bellhousing is part of the case or whether there is a joint where the bellhousing bolts on. The W uses a unitized case.

**BrooklynBay** · 06-12-2006, 07:11 PM

That is something I was wondering about for quite some time. On the A4LD, 4R55E, and 5R55E you could disassemble the transmission by disconnecting the bell housing. If the 5R55W is a unitized case, how do you disassemble it?

spindlecone · 06-12-2006, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glacier991

Fast way to tell the difference between a 5R55E and a 5R55W is to look and see if the bellhousing is part of the case or whether there is a joint where the bellhousing bolts on. The W uses a unitized case.

Perhaps another way to tell, is the w has no dipstick, the E do's

09-28-2005, 08:32 PM	#1
jbburks Wannabe Elite Explorer Collierville, TN 2002 Explorer XLS Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	How to tell transmission type? I have a 2002 4dr Explorer XLS with the 6cyl engine. How do I tell what type automatic transmission I have? The maintenance schedule that came with it lists several models of transmission that need a fluid change at 30k miles. The schedule also lists other transmission types that DON'T need a periodic change, but nothing I can find under the hood or elsewhere tells what type of transmission is in the vehicle. The dealer is no help at all. They just say change the fluid.

09-28-2005, 08:40 PM	#2
Brian_B Wannabe Elite Explorer Mountain Home, AR 2000 mounty / 56 f-100 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,305 Vehicle Specs	Look on the drivers door tag for a code and post it. I would bet its a 5R55E. Personally, I see no need to change the fluid until around 60K in anything, but thats me. Others will post their opinons as well. __________________ 56 f-100, short bed, 272 "Y" block V8, 3 speed standard, 3.73 rear gears. Oh...I have a 2000 mountaineer as well.

09-29-2005, 12:09 AM	#4
Brian_B Wannabe Elite Explorer Mountain Home, AR 2000 mounty / 56 f-100 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,305 Vehicle Specs	You are right. Another ford dumb design (IMHO).....sounds like taking a pinto transmission and adding OD. Yep...thats the wonderful A4LD. __________________ 56 f-100, short bed, 272 "Y" block V8, 3 speed standard, 3.73 rear gears. Oh...I have a 2000 mountaineer as well.

09-29-2005, 12:39 AM	#6
Brian_B Wannabe Elite Explorer Mountain Home, AR 2000 mounty / 56 f-100 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,305 Vehicle Specs	Doesn't the new trans also say not to change the fluid for 150,000 miles? Never seen fluid last that long. Chy has lifetime anti-freeze and fuel filters now too. Its getting worse everywhere. I bet the dealers tell you to change the fluid every 30,000, but bring it to them. $$$$$$$$$$ __________________ 56 f-100, short bed, 272 "Y" block V8, 3 speed standard, 3.73 rear gears**. Oh...I have a 2000 mountaineer as well.

10-06-2005, 10:49 AM	#11
dogfriend Human-Animal Hybrid Carmichael, CA '97 Sport 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 8,828 Vehicle Specs	My manual is for 97 and doesn't list that code. For 97, the code for 5R55E was D. Attached Images

09-28-2005, 11:59 PM	#3
dogfriend Human-Animal Hybrid Carmichael, CA '97 Sport 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 8,828 Vehicle Specs	I think he actually has a 5R55W in the 2002. It is the first trans without a dipstick. Check out this thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ssion+dipstick Also, see: http://www.charlietranny.com/5r55w.htm

09-29-2005, 12:35 AM	#5
dogfriend Human-Animal Hybrid Carmichael, CA '97 Sport 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 8,828 Vehicle Specs	Yes, seems not so bright to me either. Lets recall Explorer transmission history: 91-94 A4LD - A modified Pinto trans which has gained a rep for blowing out at relatively low mileage 95-96 4R55E - An improved, electronically controlled A4LD, not quite as fragile but still has problems 97-01 5R55E - Beefed up a little more, electronic control allows another forward gear from the previous design. As far as I know, they don't puke their guts nearly as quickly, but still not the strongest link in the powertrain. 02+ 5R55W (4doorsonly, Sport-Trac still uses 5R55E) Apparently, Ford is so confident in their track record that they decide to make the tranny non-serviceable. I guess we will know in a few years if they are justified. Personally, I like having a dipstick so I can at least examine the color of the fluid on the stick, if nothing else.

10-01-2005, 09:31 PM	#7
physh Wannabe Elite Explorer florida 94 explorer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17 Vehicle Specs	if you have an a4ld can you bolt on a later model beefier tranny like a 4r55e or 5r55e? It is a 2WD automatic with OD thanks, physh

10-06-2005, 08:46 AM	#10
jbburks Wannabe Elite Explorer Collierville, TN 2002 Explorer XLS Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	The plate inside the driver's door says: TR:R. The transmission has a dipstick for the fluid.

04-03-2006, 02:51 PM	#12
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,688 Vehicle Specs	Which manual were those transmission codes from? The dealers are always telling you that the newer vehicles don't require as much maintenance, like the 100k mile platinum spark plugs. In another thread, I saw that Amsol oil could last for 25k miles. It might be true, but what if it is inside of an old engine that was never maintained? I'm sure that these things wouldn't last as long. As for the 5R55W transmission without the dipstick, I'm surprised that no aftermarket manufacturer ever made a dipstick upgrade that could be attached to it. I'm sure that something could be easily fabricated.

04-03-2006, 04:03 PM	#14
Glacier991 EF Tranny Guru Sacramento, CA 95827 1992 XLT Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9,830 Vehicle Specs	It IS possible however, to take the stronger internal parts from the 5R55E and put them into the A4LD case and have the best of both worlds. On here known as a "Frankentranny" - thanks to the idea and thread posted by Brain (it is in the stickies). So far ... far as I know, only Brain and I have built or are building them.

04-03-2006, 05:19 PM	#15
BillJ Wannabe Elite Explorer NewWindsor, NY 99 XLT 4WD SOHC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 117 Vehicle Specs	Type R Looks like it is a 5R55W. http://www.vibratesoftware.com/html_...2006.htm#Trans Try this site also: http://www.transonline.com/transID/default.asp Last edited by BillJ; 09-10-2006 at 03:41 PM.

04-04-2006, 10:36 PM	#16
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,688 Vehicle Specs	Here is the information from that link: Axle Codes L - Limited Slip Differential C - Conventional Differential Code Ratio 41 3.27C 42 4.10C 43 3.08C 45 3.55C 46 3.73C D1 3.27L D2 4.10L D4 3.73L D5 3.55L Transmission Codes Code Model D (1997-2005) A5LDE / 5R44/55E D (1992-1996) M5OD-R1 J M5OD-R1 J (2002 - 2003) R1HD / M5OD-R4 M (2000-2001) Mazda M5D4 M (1997-1999) M5OD-R2 M (1992-1996) M5OD-R1 R (2002) 5R55W T (1992-1995) A4LD T (1996-2001) 4R55E U 4R70W V 5R55S X 6R60

04-04-2006, 11:26 PM	#18
Glacier991 EF Tranny Guru Sacramento, CA 95827 1992 XLT Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9,830 Vehicle Specs	Fast way to tell the difference between a 5R55E and a 5R55W is to look and see if the bellhousing is part of the case or whether there is a joint where the bellhousing bolts on. The W uses a unitized case.

06-12-2006, 07:11 PM	#19
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,688 Vehicle Specs	That is something I was wondering about for quite some time. On the A4LD, 4R55E, and 5R55E you could disassemble the transmission by disconnecting the bell housing. If the 5R55W is a unitized case, how do you disassemble it? __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.