034x4's D44 SAS thread...

034x4 · 10-15-2005, 10:40 PM

I think this is my first post here, but i've used this board for alot of research on explorer and ranger SAS. So i finally decided i should post my project and it's progress so far.

The truck originally is a 2003 edge 4x4. 37,000 miles with 4.10's/LS.
I had 3" body lift, fiberglass front fenders and cut rear fenders to have plenty of clearance for 35x12.50 BFG mudders. Made a trip down to savannah and on the way home my passenger hub bearing pretty much exploded. Taking with it, the pass knuckle, caliper, rotor, bent inner tie-rod, ground flat outter tie-rod. I already had the D44 in preperation for the SAS but with this, i decided to go ahead and start on it.

This is the ranger, in the beginning.

After the bearing failure, at 70mph on I-75 north...

034x4 · 10-15-2005, 10:50 PM

Next is the carnage and the tear down.

Now on to the plans.

For the front.
D44 from a 1981 Wagoneer.

5.13 gears, full spool (cost and durability).

Yukon Chromoly shafts. (no pics)
CTMs.

Parts Mike flat top knuckles w/ ball-joints.

BTF High steer arms.

BTF Diff cover.

TT's Fabworks spring perches and u-bolts.

Custom Alcan springs (be here in 2 more weeks).
Yota' IFS box from Foxfab off of pirate 4x4.

Custom drag-link and tie-rod from Parts Mike (will order when springs get here).
Custom steering shaft (in process of getting quote).

034x4 · 10-15-2005, 11:00 PM

Now for the rear.

I'm using a 99 sport-trac 31 spline 8.8 with discs.
I'm not going 9" because the 8.8 already has disc brakes, and I wanna keep my speedo for now.

Dutchman motorsports will be getting me my Superior shafts with custom 6x5.5 flange with wheel-studs.

Alcan, again, will be doing the springs, they will be in the 6-8" lift range depending on the height of the front, which will be determined when the front alcan springs get here and i can get it mounted onto the truck.

I used the factory waggy springs to get an idea of the height, pinion angle, and caster since i had to cut the knuckles. I know the shackle angle sucks, thats because the waggy springs are too long for my hanger seperation, hince my alcan springs.

In the mean-time while my springs are being made, I painted my crossmember and hangers and frame-rails.

034x4 · 10-15-2005, 11:01 PM

Comments/questions let me know, i'll keep this thread updated.

Co&Ca · 10-16-2005, 12:05 AM

That thing is going to look badass!

*bmxking5* · 10-16-2005, 12:15 AM

Awesome rig man. This progress looks great.

I saw that you have a pic with the 2wd Mazda that's in Savannah. Do you live down near Savannah or in Acworth like it says below your username? I'm in Lawrenceville, GA, about an hour from Acworth. "Yomie" on the site has a second gen Explorer with 35s and d30 front (leaf springs), ox locker, etc. and he just moved to Acworth from MS. He went back to MS for a while, to help w/ clean up from the hurricane, but he's going to be coming back within the next month or so. When you get your stuff finished, Yomie gets back, and I get mine finished, we all definitely need to wheel together.

I'm building my D44 right now actually. It's going to be full width 77 Ford f150 and Ford 9" rear. Discs all around, 37s, locked f/r, etc. (My build-up thread is in my sig). Anyways, great looking truck and can't wait to see it in person!

*splodo49* · 10-16-2005, 12:24 AM

Looks like you got a good build going. Truck looked good originally (no bumper and fiber fenders) I still want a pair of fiber fenders. But since mines not a daily driver anymore i would just crush them on a trail. But every time i see some i want em all over again. Truck looks good so far keep us updated.

redranger4.0 · 10-16-2005, 02:36 AM

hurry up and get your steering box mounted so that i know how to do mine when i finish my sas in a couple months

CodePoet · 10-16-2005, 10:24 AM

Looks like a heller...one question though. Why a spool up front? Turning is going to alot more difficult especially on tight trails. Or are you going to get out and unlock a hub when you need the extra steering? Not dissing you just wondering

. I've considered a spool in mine as well. I'm actually in the process of doing an sas on my 93, pretty much just like bmxking's

*j602* · 10-16-2005, 12:39 PM

Helluva project! That truck looked slick already, now it'll be mean as hell.

95offroadx · 10-16-2005, 12:48 PM

cant wait to see the turnout, wat size tires are you goin to run?

redranger4.0 · 10-16-2005, 02:53 PM

i think hes running 38's

**rookieshooter** · 10-16-2005, 05:54 PM

This is awasome, going to follow updates. About the spool upfront?

*BigDakota* · 10-16-2005, 05:55 PM

All I can say is Beautiful, just friggin beautiful!! It almost brings a tear to my eye as I see the transformation

mitch · 10-16-2005, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDakota

All I can say is Beautiful, just friggin beautiful!!

my thoughts exactly
very nice, cant wait to see how it turns out

034x4 · 10-16-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmxking5

Awesome rig man. This progress looks great.

I saw that you have a pic with the 2wd Mazda that's in Savannah. Do you live down near Savannah or in Acworth like it says below your username?

I used to live in acworth, but i recently moved into "powder springs", its a PS mailing adress but I live about 5 min from acworth still.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmxking5

I'm building my D44 right now actually. It's going to be full width 77 Ford f150 and Ford 9" rear. Discs all around, 37s, locked f/r, etc. (My build-up thread is in my sig). Anyways, great looking truck and can't wait to see it in person!

Ya I read through it the other night actually, its gonna be sweet. Thanks for the compliment, and yes, we'll all definately have to get together.

034x4 · 10-16-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodePoet

Looks like a heller...one question though. Why a spool up front? Turning is going to alot more difficult especially on tight trails. Or are you going to get out and unlock a hub when you need the extra steering?

I didn't want to use a lunchbox locker, although they are cheap. A full detroit is expensive, and selectable lockers $$ keeps going up. A spool is half the price of a lunchbox locker, and durable as hell. And yes, i'll probably leave a hub un-locked until i get to a difficult obstacle/portion of the trail. I am contemplating hydro-assist though.

034x4 · 10-16-2005, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redranger4.0

i think hes running 38's

They are 38x12.50 r15 on 15x8 rock crawlers. I like pizza cutters. But they'll widen up when I get the weld-on beadlocks.

To mount the steering box, i'm going to box in the section of the frame with 1/2" steel and weld that to the frame, then run grade 8 bolts through the frame/box-in and steering box.

034x4 · 10-16-2005, 08:16 PM

Also i forgot to mention, i'm also going to run a T and M doubler set-up, for a 6.25:1 low-low ratio

. www.tandmoffroadproducts.com

*dman726749* · 10-16-2005, 08:28 PM

hope you have already got the double, he has stoped production, and i dont think he has anymore left.

http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25504

10-15-2005, 10:40 PM	#1
034x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer B'ham 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 438 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	034x4's D44 SAS thread... I think this is my first post here, but i've used this board for alot of research on explorer and ranger SAS. So i finally decided i should post my project and it's progress so far. The truck originally is a 2003 edge 4x4. 37,000 miles with 4.10's/LS. I had 3" body lift, fiberglass front fenders and cut rear fenders to have plenty of clearance for 35x12.50 BFG mudders. Made a trip down to savannah and on the way home my passenger hub bearing pretty much exploded. Taking with it, the pass knuckle, caliper, rotor, bent inner tie-rod, ground flat outter tie-rod. I already had the D44 in preperation for the SAS but with this, i decided to go ahead and start on it. This is the ranger, in the beginning. After the bearing failure, at 70mph on I-75 north...

10-16-2005, 12:05 AM	#5
Co&Ca Wannabe Elite Explorer Jacksonville, Fl '00 XLT Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 138 Vehicle Specs	That thing is going to look badass! __________________ "You can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf." 2000 XLT - 31" BFG A/Ts - KKM Intake - Westin Brushguard - 2 6" KC Slimlites My Cardomain

10-16-2005, 12:15 AM	#6
bmxking5 Rollover Posse Member Monroe, GA '93 Sport & '96 XLT Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,812 Vehicle Specs	Awesome rig man. This progress looks great. I saw that you have a pic with the 2wd Mazda that's in Savannah. Do you live down near Savannah or in Acworth like it says below your username? I'm in Lawrenceville, GA, about an hour from Acworth. "Yomie" on the site has a second gen Explorer with 35s and d30 front (leaf springs), ox locker, etc. and he just moved to Acworth from MS. He went back to MS for a while, to help w/ clean up from the hurricane, but he's going to be coming back within the next month or so. When you get your stuff finished, Yomie gets back, and I get mine finished, we all definitely need to wheel together. I'm building my D44 right now actually. It's going to be full width 77 Ford f150 and Ford 9" rear. Discs all around, 37s, locked f/r, etc. (My build-up thread is in my sig). Anyways, great looking truck and can't wait to see it in person! __________________ Weekend Toy: '93 Explorer 2dr - Full-width D44/9" swap, disc f/r, 37" Nittos, 4.88s locked rear, hi steer '96 Explorer 5.0 - Lifted, Magnaflow, Mac, TMH, 33s, TOTALLED!! New DD: '01 F150 Supercrew 4x4 - Magnaflow Hi-Flow cats & Muffler, powdercoated FX4 wheels, leveling kit

10-16-2005, 12:24 AM	#7
splodo49 Ejection seat man.. Tooele,Utah 94 XLT,75 FJ, 05 Cummins Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 709 Vehicle Specs	Looks like you got a good build going. Truck looked good originally (no bumper and fiber fenders) I still want a pair of fiber fenders. But since mines not a daily driver anymore i would just crush them on a trail. But every time i see some i want em all over again. Truck looks good so far keep us updated. __________________ SAS BUILD UP 2.5 Ton Rocks, Fully Locked, Pinion Brakes, Full Hydro, Re-Centered H1s, Rock rings. 42" Pitbulls Max speed about 35-40

10-16-2005, 02:36 AM	#8
redranger4.0 Wannabe Elite Explorer Salem CT 2000 Ranger XLT Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 738 Vehicle Specs	hurry up and get your steering box mounted so that i know how to do mine when i finish my sas in a couple months __________________ Join the Resistance

10-15-2005, 10:50 PM	#2
034x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer B'ham 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 438 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Next is the carnage and the tear down. Now on to the plans. For the front. D44 from a 1981 Wagoneer. 5.13 gears, full spool (cost and durability). Yukon Chromoly shafts. (no pics) CTMs. Parts Mike flat top knuckles w/ ball-joints. BTF High steer arms. BTF Diff cover. TT's Fabworks spring perches and u-bolts. Custom Alcan springs (be here in 2 more weeks). Yota' IFS box from Foxfab off of pirate 4x4. Custom drag-link and tie-rod from Parts Mike (will order when springs get here). Custom steering shaft (in process of getting quote).

10-15-2005, 11:00 PM	#3
034x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer B'ham 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 438 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Now for the rear. I'm using a 99 sport-trac 31 spline 8.8 with discs. I'm not going 9" because the 8.8 already has disc brakes, and I wanna keep my speedo for now. Dutchman motorsports will be getting me my Superior shafts with custom 6x5.5 flange with wheel-studs. Alcan, again, will be doing the springs, they will be in the 6-8" lift range depending on the height of the front, which will be determined when the front alcan springs get here and i can get it mounted onto the truck. I used the factory waggy springs to get an idea of the height, pinion angle, and caster since i had to cut the knuckles. I know the shackle angle sucks, thats because the waggy springs are too long for my hanger seperation, hince my alcan springs. In the mean-time while my springs are being made, I painted my crossmember and hangers and frame-rails.

10-15-2005, 11:01 PM	#4
034x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer B'ham 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 438 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Comments/questions let me know, i'll keep this thread updated.

10-16-2005, 10:24 AM	#9
CodePoet Wannabe Elite Explorer Indianapolis, Indiana 1993 XLT Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,415 Vehicle Specs	Looks like a heller...one question though. Why a spool up front? Turning is going to alot more difficult especially on tight trails. Or are you going to get out and unlock a hub when you need the extra steering? Not dissing you just wondering . I've considered a spool in mine as well. I'm actually in the process of doing an sas on my 93, pretty much just like bmxking's __________________ RAINBOW DASH!!!!!!!!!!!

10-16-2005, 12:39 PM	#10
j602 resident douche Dothan, AL '92 XLT Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,676 Vehicle Specs	Helluva project! That truck looked slick already, now it'll be mean as hell. __________________ Josh Loveland '92 SAS'd Explorer FOR SALE Last edited by j602; 10-16-2005 at 01:21 PM.

10-16-2005, 12:48 PM	#11
95offroadx Wannabe Elite Explorer Palmyra, Pa 91 explorer xlt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,580 Vehicle Specs	cant wait to see the turnout, wat size tires are you goin to run? __________________ 1991 Explorer Xlt 4x4- 33pc m/t, 4.56 gears, 5.5" of lift, tons more 03 Ranger Xlt 4.0sohc 5spd 4x4 4.10's- sidepipes,cai, hurst shifter,black headlights, tinted, 2/2.5" drop, 275/60 & 285/60 falkens, 17x9 & 17x10.5 fr500 xplorer pics ranger pics Josh Hossler

10-16-2005, 02:53 PM	#12
redranger4.0 Wannabe Elite Explorer Salem CT 2000 Ranger XLT Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 738 Vehicle Specs	i think hes running 38's __________________ Join the Resistance

10-16-2005, 05:54 PM	#13
rookieshooter Martinsburg WV 84 BII "Li'l Samson" Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,164 Vehicle Specs	This is awasome, going to follow updates. About the spool upfront? __________________ "2012 & 2011Truck Nationals" At Carlisle Extreme 4x4" First Place winner. "2012 &2011 All Ford Nationals" At Carlisle First place winner Bronco Trail Truck Featured in 2012 Bronco Driver Mag. Petersen's 4Wheel mag ROTM. Voted 2008 Bronco II of Year

10-16-2005, 05:55 PM	#14
BigDakota Elite Explorer Bismarck ND 95 Sport Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Vehicle Specs	All I can say is Beautiful, just friggin beautiful!! It almost brings a tear to my eye as I see the transformation __________________ 1989 Ranger X-cab 4x4, 2.9, automatic,manual lockouts

10-16-2005, 08:16 PM	#19
034x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer B'ham 2003 Ranger Edge Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 438 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Also i forgot to mention, i'm also going to run a T and M doubler set-up, for a 6.25:1 low-low ratio . www.tandmoffroadproducts.com

10-16-2005, 08:28 PM	#20
dman726749 Mall Crawler Greenwood Indiana 96 xlt Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,768 Vehicle Specs	hope you have already got the double, he has stoped production, and i dont think he has anymore left. http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25504 __________________ Dustin 96 XLT 2" tt and war shackles, 3" b/l 33" X-Terrains, Custom Snorkel Sold Dman726749's 96 X!!! 2006 F150 FX4 Super Crew Indianapolis Indiana Senior Portrait and Wedding Photography