Burns SAS thread

**IZwack** · 09-20-2006, 11:36 PM

You have to got to liberate your coils - let them hannnng oooouuut!

**Burns** · 09-20-2006, 11:40 PM

will have to check out i think that bmxking used another coil

off topic for now but i think it is a good find
http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...t_axle_set.htm

**Burns** · 09-20-2006, 11:50 PM

i might have to let them hang. i know that rick did have a set up at one time that let them hang im gonna have to look that up and do some reading

redranger4.0 · 09-21-2006, 02:41 PM

something like thst would work. thats my coils buckets made for my XJ/ZJ springs. the coils just slide on those tubes

redranger4.0 · 09-21-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burns

how do they compare in size to the whildhorse coil in diamater

if i remember correctly my Xj coils are like 5.something" OD

*sn0border88* · 09-21-2006, 02:55 PM

most jeeps guys have a pipe inside the upper mount so the coil can move but not escape.

**IZwack** · 09-21-2006, 07:23 PM

So with all of these suggestions, does that mean the coils will definitely hang loose?

**Burns** · 09-22-2006, 11:08 AM

Its looking like im about to build a set of coil buckts just to see how it does.

lol yeah u were right IZwack i might have to let them hang.

**Burns** · 09-22-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redranger4.0

something like thst would work. thats my coils buckets made for my XJ/ZJ springs. the coils just slide on those tubes

i am going to assume that you use limit straps so they wont fall out

**james t** · 09-22-2006, 11:48 AM

Something doesnt sound right. With the WH coils and extended arms you should have more flex than you will ever need. Check to make sure your trac bar or steering linkage isnt binding a bit and limiting flex.

**Burns** · 09-22-2006, 12:01 PM

flex is ok in my mind but i am looking for all sorts of things to work on to inprove my X. im looking a lockers, axle shaft upgrades, ujoint upgrades, and more flex. i think i need to look into my steering

**IZwack** · 09-22-2006, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burns

Its looking like im about to build a set of coil buckts just to see how it does.

lol yeah u were right IZwack i might have to let them hang.

woot!

Make sure you post pics of the coil buckets

redranger4.0 · 09-22-2006, 12:25 PM

front defidently doesnt look like its flexing as much as it should

redranger4.0 · 09-22-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burns

i am going to assume that you use limit straps so they wont fall out

yea

**section525** · 09-22-2006, 12:44 PM

Are your shocks allowing enough up-travel?

'97 V8 · 09-22-2006, 12:59 PM

did you ever try wristing the right side arm?

**FROADER** · 09-22-2006, 01:37 PM

I think I agree with james.

I have the same coils and a wristed arm (not extended) and my front end flexes more than that.

*Stic-o* · 09-22-2006, 02:39 PM

It's the angle he's at. Have him back over it then watch the front flex

*Stic-o* · 09-22-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FROADER

Not sure, maybe ask stic-o. I think he thought about it before he got the WH 5.5s

the 10" jeep Coils are shaped like a stock Explorer/Ranger coil. You have to run the stock 1 1/8"th centering bolt on the bottom like the TTB. I do have some arms for wedges with this center bolt for a TTB type set up. I'm not going to use them. They are set up for hiems on the end, came off DB1's truck. I think there extended some too.

**james t** · 09-22-2006, 04:27 PM

You do not need to wrist an extended arm. You get the same flex extended vs. wristed.

You cant go by that pic. That mound wont flex the suspension out all the way. You need either a forklift or an engine hoist or a really steep ditch. A shop lift will work too. If there is a problem, then it will be either in the steering, the shocks, or the trac bar. There is no need to ever add anything to an extended arm and WH coils. You simply cant use any more travel (once set up right).

09-20-2006, 11:36 PM	#341
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,390 Vehicle Specs	You have to got to liberate your coils - let them hannnng oooouuut! __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

09-20-2006, 11:40 PM	#342
Burns EF Late Night Crew Memphis, TN 1991 Explorer/2002 F-250 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,923 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	will have to check out i think that bmxking used another coil off topic for now but i think it is a good find http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...t_axle_set.htm __________________ Jonathan Burns Moderator of the Feature Truck Forum Owner of the "Lime" Forum Rules and Usage

09-20-2006, 11:50 PM	#343
Burns EF Late Night Crew Memphis, TN 1991 Explorer/2002 F-250 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,923 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	i might have to let them hang. i know that rick did have a set up at one time that let them hang im gonna have to look that up and do some reading __________________ Jonathan Burns Moderator of the Feature Truck Forum Owner of the "Lime" Forum Rules and Usage

09-21-2006, 02:41 PM	#344
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09-21-2006, 02:55 PM	#346
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09-21-2006, 07:23 PM	#347
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,390 Vehicle Specs	So with all of these suggestions, does that mean the coils will definitely hang loose? __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

09-22-2006, 11:08 AM	#348
Burns EF Late Night Crew Memphis, TN 1991 Explorer/2002 F-250 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,923 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Its looking like im about to build a set of coil buckts just to see how it does. lol yeah u were right IZwack i might have to let them hang. __________________ Jonathan Burns Moderator of the Feature Truck Forum Owner of the "Lime" Forum Rules and Usage

09-22-2006, 11:48 AM	#350
james t moderation Texarkana AR/TX 94 SAS sport Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,258 Vehicle Specs	Something doesnt sound right. With the WH coils and extended arms you should have more flex than you will ever need. Check to make sure your trac bar or steering linkage isnt binding a bit and limiting flex. __________________ my rebuild

09-22-2006, 12:01 PM	#351
Burns EF Late Night Crew Memphis, TN 1991 Explorer/2002 F-250 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,923 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	flex is ok in my mind but i am looking for all sorts of things to work on to inprove my X. im looking a lockers, axle shaft upgrades, ujoint upgrades, and more flex. i think i need to look into my steering __________________ Jonathan Burns Moderator of the Feature Truck Forum Owner of the "Lime" Forum Rules and Usage

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09-22-2006, 01:37 PM	#357
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09-22-2006, 02:39 PM	#358
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09-22-2006, 04:27 PM	#360
james t moderation Texarkana AR/TX 94 SAS sport Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,258 Vehicle Specs	You do not need to wrist an extended arm. You get the same flex extended vs. wristed. You cant go by that pic. That mound wont flex the suspension out all the way. You need either a forklift or an engine hoist or a really steep ditch. A shop lift will work too. If there is a problem, then it will be either in the steering, the shocks, or the trac bar. There is no need to ever add anything to an extended arm and WH coils. You simply cant use any more travel (once set up right). __________________ my rebuild