ARB Safari Snorkle on First Gen - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®

Con Seann3ry · 02-21-2006, 03:29 PM

Well, after seeing DasFrem's homebuilt snorkle I decided I needed to have one myself. Hydrolocking is something that's always scared me, not that I've done a lot of deep water crossings (here's a video of about as deep as I've gone http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~kblackmo/122-2203_MVI.AVI ) but I would like to be able to. Also it's a fun cheap project. Externally it's the same as DasFrem's snorkle, but I have a first gen and therefore it's different internally. Well, here's the final project:
Edit: Cut it down 3 inches. Here's what she looks like currently. May go an inch lower.

A little of what's under the hood buildup:

I used a 45 Degree Conduit bend and 3inch conduit. I then attatched that to some dryer vent tube. It worked pretty well as I was able to just bend it into the shape of the airbox entrance. For the airbox I just flipped around the bottom and cut off all the tabs on the side so it fits with the top still. I used RTV High Temp Silicone to seal it up, there's a million things you could use but I had some of that laying around. Oh, also I painted the Conduit with Rustoleum Black Hammered. It kind of gives it a mild texture and I was trying to match the texture of the molded plastic top. I think it matched as well as it could. Also, to hide the jagged edge I cut a slit in some vaccum tube at the suggestion of DasFrem, makes it look 100 times better and gives it that professional look.

Overall I think it turned out pretty good. I put it up a little higher than DasFrem just because I figured it would be less visibile from within the cab but I might lower it a little, still deciding. I haven't noticed a decrease in power, but a little of the roar is gone that I had with my swiss cheese airbox. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Also, here's a link to DasFrem's thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...018&perpage=20

*Positive Vibes* · 02-21-2006, 04:48 PM

Sweet! I need to make myself one!

Have any pics of it mounted on the fender?

Con Seann3ry · 02-21-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Positive Vibes

Sweet! I need to make myself one!

Have any pics of it mounted on the fender?

There is only one mount and that is right near where the dryer hose attatches. It's in the last picture but you can't see it that well. Should be strong enough for now, I might make another mount on the pillar but there isn't anymore room for more mounts under the fender.

Explodersport · 02-21-2006, 08:01 PM

I like them, but I dont understand their use. If you ever get in water high enough for the snorkel to be used, your electrical system will short out and not run. Yeah you didnt get hydrolock, but now you have the pleasure of buying an all new ignition system! Did you address that problem? I would really be interested in that one....

*bmxking5* · 02-21-2006, 08:24 PM

Yes, but wouldn't you rather buy a whole new electrical system instead of a new electrical system AND a new motor?

Plus, water can simply splash up and get into your motor (had it happen to me). Not cool at all.

Usually, the only problem with electricals is that you migth get some water on the DIS = stall out. But if you dry it all off, it's good as new.

Looks really good. I've been meaning to build one for mine. Yours turned out really nice. When I build mine, it will be about 2inches lower than the roof. (Don't want it to be as easy to rip off)

Con Seann3ry · 02-21-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmxking5

Yes, but wouldn't you rather buy a whole new electrical system instead of a new electrical system AND a new motor?

Plus, water can simply splash up and get into your motor (had it happen to me). Not cool at all.

Usually, the only problem with electricals is that you migth get some water on the DIS = stall out. But if you dry it all off, it's good as new.

Looks really good. I've been meaning to build one for mine. Yours turned out really nice. When I build mine, it will be about 2inches lower than the roof. (Don't want it to be as easy to rip off)

Well, I plan to also find some way to protect my electrical system too. I have also thought long about the height of this. Currently it's less impeding in my vision, however, if I lower it it will be more difficult for it to snag on something. I left it this height because I can always decide to lower it easier than it would be to heighten it. I may lower it a bit.

CodePoet · 02-21-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explodersport

I like them, but I dont understand their use. If you ever get in water high enough for the snorkel to be used, your electrical system will short out and not run. Yeah you didnt get hydrolock, but now you have the pleasure of buying an all new ignition system! Did you address that problem? I would really be interested in that one....

Electrical systems can be waterproofed...i'm going to do it on mine I hope LOL only one way to test that i'd think!

*Positive Vibes* · 02-22-2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Explodersport

I like them, but I dont understand their use. If you ever get in water high enough for the snorkel to be used, your electrical system will short out and not run. Yeah you didnt get hydrolock, but now you have the pleasure of buying an all new ignition system! Did you address that problem? I would really be interested in that one....

You obviously have never forded deep water. I have had water up to my door handles and almost hydro locked it. If it would have hydro locked then the water would have eventually seeped into the truck and damaged alot of stuff. A snokle would cure that scenerio.

little x · 02-23-2006, 10:01 AM

I really like your x. Same color, year, and body as my dad's old truck, the vehicle i first learned to drive on. I think I'm going to be putting a snorkel on my truck this weekend. All the parts are sitting on my floor. I'm not sure if I'm going to take off the quarter pannel, or just have the tube on the outside the whole way up. Good job on yourse.

Opi · 02-23-2006, 03:41 PM

very nice, how much did it all cost?

little x · 02-23-2006, 04:33 PM

"Electrical systems can be waterproofed...i'm going to do it on mine I hope LOL only one way to test that i'd think!"

How are you going to do that? I was planning on using silicone to seal up my fuse box, but what are you going to do for the distributer (that is what will make the truck stall, right)?

Con Seann3ry · 02-23-2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opi

very nice, how much did it all cost?

I think the top is like 40 bucks, but I got it from my parents for a christmas present. I spent I think like 40 bucks at Home depot, I didn't even end up using the pvc cement I got though and I had to get some cutoff disks and such. Also, I couldn't buy just a few feet of the straight conduit I had so I had to get like a 10 foot thing of it. You may be able to do it a little cheaper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by little x

I really like your x. Same color, year, and body as my dad's old truck, the vehicle i first learned to drive on. I think I'm going to be putting a snorkel on my truck this weekend. All the parts are sitting on my floor. I'm not sure if I'm going to take off the quarter pannel, or just have the tube on the outside the whole way up. Good job on yourse.

I'd suggest running it through the fender just because it will be tougher for it to get ripped off that way. Also, once I get a hacksaw I'm going to cut mine down for that same reason.

bigbadbob94 · 02-24-2006, 08:57 PM

what did you do with the atenna and the vacum lines?

Con Seann3ry · 02-24-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbadbob94

what did you do with the atenna and the vacum lines?

Antenna I took out because my ipod transmitter works better when it's not in. Vaccum lines are all in their stock locations.

little x · 02-27-2006, 06:03 PM

I did my snorkel this weekend. I left the antena in. Thanks for the info and pics, they really helped. What size dryer vent tube did you use, Con? The only stuff I found was 4", and it was a pain to get sealed.

little x · 02-27-2006, 06:05 PM

oh yea,

Does anyone have any ideas on how to water proof the ignition system? computer? is there any thing else I need to really worry about?

Con Seann3ry · 02-27-2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little x

I did my snorkel this weekend. I left the antena in. Thanks for the info and pics, they really helped. What size dryer vent tube did you use, Con? The only stuff I found was 4", and it was a pain to get sealed.

I used the 4 inch stuff and a shitload of silicone and used a tube clamp (i think that's what it's called) to clamp it down to the silicone. You could just wrap it with some sort of tape too to get the things to match.

*SkanlaxJMO* · 02-28-2006, 12:49 AM

maby that heat tape that they use on ducting?

91Sploder · 02-28-2006, 07:00 PM

The snorkel turned out awesome Kevin! Maybe it'll come in handy on the 12th of March

little x · 03-01-2006, 09:47 PM

What air system did you have before? stock air box, stock filter? I had a kkm cone filter, and now have the k&n filter for the stock air box. I can definitely tell a difference in power. A little more down low (i like), a little less up top. It's also quite a bit quieter when I get on it (when't that exhaust getting ordered?). Did you feel any differences?

02-21-2006, 03:29 PM	#1
Con Seann3ry Wannabe Elite Explorer Eugene, Oregon 94 XLT Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 559 Vehicle Specs	ARB Safari Snorkle on First Gen Well, after seeing DasFrem's homebuilt snorkle I decided I needed to have one myself. Hydrolocking is something that's always scared me, not that I've done a lot of deep water crossings (here's a video of about as deep as I've gone http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~kblackmo/122-2203_MVI.AVI ) but I would like to be able to. Also it's a fun cheap project. Externally it's the same as DasFrem's snorkle, but I have a first gen and therefore it's different internally. Well, here's the final project: Edit: Cut it down 3 inches. Here's what she looks like currently. May go an inch lower. A little of what's under the hood buildup: I used a 45 Degree Conduit bend and 3inch conduit. I then attatched that to some dryer vent tube. It worked pretty well as I was able to just bend it into the shape of the airbox entrance. For the airbox I just flipped around the bottom and cut off all the tabs on the side so it fits with the top still. I used RTV High Temp Silicone to seal it up, there's a million things you could use but I had some of that laying around. Oh, also I painted the Conduit with Rustoleum Black Hammered. It kind of gives it a mild texture and I was trying to match the texture of the molded plastic top. I think it matched as well as it could. Also, to hide the jagged edge I cut a slit in some vaccum tube at the suggestion of DasFrem, makes it look 100 times better and gives it that professional look. Overall I think it turned out pretty good. I put it up a little higher than DasFrem just because I figured it would be less visibile from within the cab but I might lower it a little, still deciding. I haven't noticed a decrease in power, but a little of the roar is gone that I had with my swiss cheese airbox. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Also, here's a link to DasFrem's thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...018&perpage=20 __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/id/conseannery Last edited by Con Seann3ry; 03-12-2006 at 12:48 PM.

02-21-2006, 04:48 PM	#2
Positive Vibes Elite Explorer Santa Cruz, Ca '94 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 4,098 Vehicle Specs	Sweet! I need to make myself one! Have any pics of it mounted on the fender? __________________ '94 XLT, 5.5" superlift, cat back flowmaster, KKM, custom rocksliders, 33X12.5 XTerrains, 4.10's, custom bumpers, Detroit in 8.8, on board air, ARB locker in front winch,etc. What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it, The rich need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?

02-21-2006, 08:01 PM	#4
Explodersport Wannabe Elite Explorer Chesterfield, Virginia '00 Sport Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 125 Vehicle Specs	I like them, but I dont understand their use. If you ever get in water high enough for the snorkel to be used, your electrical system will short out and not run. Yeah you didnt get hydrolock, but now you have the pleasure of buying an all new ignition system! Did you address that problem? I would really be interested in that one.... __________________ No, wait..... but its gotta be your bull.... Lift it, Fat chicks can't jump.

02-21-2006, 08:24 PM	#5
bmxking5 Rollover Posse Member Monroe, GA '93 Sport & '96 XLT Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,771 Vehicle Specs	Yes, but wouldn't you rather buy a whole new electrical system instead of a new electrical system AND a new motor? Plus, water can simply splash up and get into your motor (had it happen to me). Not cool at all. Usually, the only problem with electricals is that you migth get some water on the DIS = stall out. But if you dry it all off, it's good as new. Looks really good. I've been meaning to build one for mine. Yours turned out really nice. When I build mine, it will be about 2inches lower than the roof. (Don't want it to be as easy to rip off) __________________ Bryan Mitchell Weekend Toy: '93 Explorer Buggy - Full-width D44/9" swap, disc f/r, 37" Nittos, 4.88s locked rear, hi steer, chop top, cage Daily Driver: '96 Explorer 5.0 - Lifted, Magnaflow, Mac, x-pipe, 33" Maxxis

02-28-2006, 12:49 AM	#18
SkanlaxJMO Elite Explorer Syracuse, New York 96 XLT Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,141 Vehicle Specs	maby that heat tape that they use on ducting? __________________ 2005 F-150

02-23-2006, 10:01 AM	#9
little x Wannabe Elite Explorer SW VA '91 XL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,190 Vehicle Specs	I really like your x. Same color, year, and body as my dad's old truck, the vehicle i first learned to drive on. I think I'm going to be putting a snorkel on my truck this weekend. All the parts are sitting on my floor. I'm not sure if I'm going to take off the quarter pannel, or just have the tube on the outside the whole way up. Good job on yourse.

02-23-2006, 03:41 PM	#10
Opi Wannabe Elite Explorer Allentown PA 94 XLT Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31 Vehicle Specs	very nice, how much did it all cost?

02-23-2006, 04:33 PM	#11
little x Wannabe Elite Explorer SW VA '91 XL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,190 Vehicle Specs	"Electrical systems can be waterproofed...i'm going to do it on mine I hope LOL only one way to test that i'd think!" How are you going to do that? I was planning on using silicone to seal up my fuse box, but what are you going to do for the distributer (that is what will make the truck stall, right)?

02-24-2006, 08:57 PM	#13
bigbadbob94 Wannabe Elite Explorer pennsylvania '94 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5 Vehicle Specs	what did you do with the atenna and the vacum lines?

02-27-2006, 06:03 PM	#15
little x Wannabe Elite Explorer SW VA '91 XL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,190 Vehicle Specs	I did my snorkel this weekend. I left the antena in. Thanks for the info and pics, they really helped. What size dryer vent tube did you use, Con? The only stuff I found was 4", and it was a pain to get sealed.

02-27-2006, 06:05 PM	#16
little x Wannabe Elite Explorer SW VA '91 XL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,190 Vehicle Specs	oh yea, Does anyone have any ideas on how to water proof the ignition system? computer? is there any thing else I need to really worry about?

02-28-2006, 07:00 PM	#19
91Sploder Wannabe Elite Explorer Shedd, Oregon '91 XLT Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 191 Vehicle Specs	The snorkel turned out awesome Kevin! Maybe it'll come in handy on the 12th of March __________________ -'85 Ford BroncoII 4x4 - Daily Driver -'68 Ford Bronco (o===o) - 289 V8, 3 spd, Dana 20, D30 , 9", posi fr/rr

03-01-2006, 09:47 PM	#20
little x Wannabe Elite Explorer SW VA '91 XL Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,190 Vehicle Specs	What air system did you have before? stock air box, stock filter? I had a kkm cone filter, and now have the k&n filter for the stock air box. I can definitely tell a difference in power. A little more down low (i like), a little less up top. It's also quite a bit quieter when I get on it (when't that exhaust getting ordered?). Did you feel any differences? __________________ 2002 Civic EX Coupe - Lowered 1991 Explorer 4x4 - Lifted