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konaboy

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MAF Question/problem??

Hey Guys,

I've been having a problem with poor gas mileage on my '97 V6 sohc averaging 14.5 mpg city/highway driving (I used to get 16-18) 83K miles on it. I've replaced plugs and wires with motorcraft ones, air filter, fuel filter, serpentine belt, checked tire pressures and cleaned the MAF. So I gave up and took it to my mechanic today to have them hook it up to a scanner to see what they can find. Just got a call and the only thing they can come up with is the MAF is reading the wrong altitude. It's reading at sea level and I live in Ohio so whatever that difference is. Will that reading affect mileage like this?? Is it possible I screwed up the MAF when I cleaned it? I followed the instructions that were listed here for that. I threw a code P430 about 3 months ago and it hasn't come back. (catalyst out of efficiency threshold)

I'd love to hear some input on this. I know this is a part I can replace myself and I trust this shop. The guy even said I can't guarantee how much of an improvement you'll see in mileage because it's not something we usually see with these. He flat out said how long will it take to recoup the $350 for the part, So I feel they are honest just would like to hear if you all think this is something that would indeed make a significant difference. If we're talking 3-4 mpg I can recoup that cost fairly quick with gas going for $3 a gallon.
 



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The maf transfer functions are controlled by the computer. Never heard of any "altitude" calibrations.

My suggestion is to try another shop.
 






There is a test procedure for the maf and pcm inferred barometric pressure/altitude. The corrected baro obtained from local sources is compared to the pid for inferred baro. If it doesn't match the maf is considered defective. Sorry I can't remember the details any better.

Just found the tsb for this: tsb-98-23-10 maf contamination diagnostic procedures. Has the tests for the maf and the baro/altitude chart for the maf pid, etc. It would appear that the shop you went to was pretty knowledgeable.

Scucci
 






The MAF is available for less than $350.00 online. Many auto parts dealers also carry it (Autozone,ETC.)
From:
http://www.fastpartsnetwork.com/
MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR, Explorer, Mountaineer, 4.0L 97-98
list price: $249.24
Core charge: $75.00
Fast Parts Network price: $186.93

If the MAF is truly defective it is worth replacing in my opinion.

Scucci.
 






Thanks Guys,

I was hoping somone would know about this. So would an incorrect Barrometric reading cause a loss in MPG?? Is it possible I might have done something to it during cleaning that would cause this? (although when I cleaned it the mileage was about the same anyway.)

Also what's the "core charge" you mentioned scucci??
 






The incorrect baro reading will cause an incorrect pwm to the fuel injectors. It will be lean at some load conditions and rich at other load conditions. This will give poor mileage and or a noticable decrease in performance. You most likely did not harm the maf when you cleaned it. The core charge is what they charge you until they get your old maf assembly returned. It is the value of a rebuildable part bascially.

Scucci
 






So I get the impression it's definately worth replacing with the reading the way it is.
 






Here's the information on the TSB 98-23-10 Mass Air Flow Contamination Service Tip:

TSB 98-23-10 MASS AIR FLOW (MAF) - SENSOR CONTAMINATION - SERVICE TIP

Publication Date: NOVEMBER 10, 1998

FORD: 1990-1997 THUNDERBIRD
1990-1999 MUSTANG, TAURUS SHO
1991-1999 CROWN VICTORIA, ESCORT, TAURUS
1992-1994 TEMPO
1993-1997 PROBE
1995-1999 CONTOUR
LINCOLN-MERCURY: 1990-1997 COUGAR
1991-1999 CONTINENTAL, GRAND MARQUIS, SABLE, TOWN CAR, TRACER
1992-1994 TOPAZ
1993-1998 MARK VIII
1995-1999 MYSTIQUE
LIGHT TRUCK: 1990 BRONCO II
1990-1997 AEROSTAR
1990-1999 RANGER
1991-1999 EXPLORER
1994-1996 BRONCO
1994-1997 F SUPER DUTY, F-250 HD
1994-1999 ECONOLINE, F-150, F-250 LD, F-350
1995-1999 WINDSTAR
1997-1999 EXPEDITION, MOUNTAINEER
1998-1999 NAVIGATOR
1999 F-250 HD, SUPER DUTY F SERIES

ISSUE:
This TSB article is a diagnostic procedure to address vehicles that exhibit lean driveability symptoms, and may or may not have any Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) stored in memory.

ACTION:
Follow the diagnostic procedures described in the following Service Tip. The revised diagnostic procedure is a more accurate means of diagnosing the symptoms.

MAF sensors can get contaminated from a variety of sources: dirt, oil, silicone, spider webs, potting compound from the sensor itself, etc. When a MAF sensor gets contaminated, it skews the transfer function such that the sensor over-estimates air flow at idle (causes the fuel system to go rich), and under-estimates air flow at high air flows (causes fuel system to go lean). This means Long Term Fuel Trims will learn lean (negative) corrections at idle, and learn rich (positive) corrections at higher air flows.

If the vehicle is driven at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) or high loads, the fuel system normally goes open loop rich to provide maximum power. If the MAF sensor is contaminated, the fuel system will actually be lean because of under-estimated air flow. During open loop fuel operation, the vehicle applies Long Term Fuel Trim corrections that have been learned during closed loop operation. These corrections are often lean corrections learned at lower air flows. This combination of under-estimated air flow, and lean fuel trim corrections can result in spark knock/detonation, and lack of power concerns at WOT, and high loads.

One of the indicators for diagnosing this condition is barometric pressure. Barometric pressure (BARO) is inferred by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) software at part throttle and WOT (there is no actual BARO sensor on MAF-equipped vehicles, except for the 3.8L Supercharged engine). At high air flows, a contaminated MAF sensor will under-estimate air flow coming into the engine, hence the PCM infers that the vehicle is operating at a higher altitude. The BARO reading is stored in Keep Alive Memory (KAM) after it is updated. Other indicators are Long Term Fuel Trim, and MAF voltage at idle.

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE MAY ALSO BE USED TO DIAGNOSE VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE FUEL SYSTEM/HO2S SENSOR DTCs.

Symptoms:

Lack of Power.
Spark Knock/Detonation.
Buck/Jerk.
Hesitation/Surge on Acceleration.
Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Illuminated - DTCs P0171, P0172, P0174, P0175 may be stored in memory
OBDII DTCs.

P0171, P0174 (Fuel system lean, Bank 1 or 2).
P0172, P0175 (Fuel system rich, Bank 1 or 2).
P1130, P1131, P1132, (HO2S11 lack of switching, Bank 1).
P1150, P1151, P1152, (HO2S21 lack of switching, Bank 2).
OBDI DTCs

181, 189 (Fuel system lean, Bank 1 or 2).
179, 188 (Fuel system rich, Bank 1 or 2).
171, 172, 173 (HO2S11 lack of switching, Bank 1).
175, 176, 177 (HO2S21 lack of switching, Bank 2).
184, 185 (MAF higher/lower than expected).
186, 187 (Injector pulse width higher/lower than expected).
NOTE: DO NOT DISCONNECT THE BATTERY. IT WILL ERASE KEEP ALIVE MEMORY, AND RESET LONG TERM FUEL TRIM, AND BARO TO THEIR STARTING/BASE VALUES. THE BARO PARAMETER IDENTIFICATION DISPLAY (PID) IS USED FOR THIS DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE. ALL OBDII APPLICATIONS HAVE THIS PID AVAILABLE. THERE ARE SOME OBDI VEHICLES THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BARO PID, FOR THESE VEHICLES OMIT THE BARO CHECK, AND REFER ONLY TO STEPS 2, 3, AND 4 IN THE DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE.

Look at the BARO PID. Refer to the Barometric Pressure Reference Chart in this article. At sea level, BARO should read about 159 Hz (29.91 in. Hg). As a reference, Denver, Colorado at 1524 meters (5000 ft.) altitude should be about 144 Hz (24.88 in. Hg.). Normal learned BARO variability is up to ±6 Hz (±2 in. Hg.). If BARO indicates a higher altitude than you are at (7 or more Hz lower than expected), you may have MAF contamination. If available, Service Bay Diagnostic System (SBDS) has a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor that can be used as a barometric pressure reference. Use "MAP/BARO" test under "Powertrain," "Testers and Meters." Ignore the hookup screen. Connect GP2 to the reference MAP on the following screen.
NOTE: REMEMBER THAT MOST WEATHER SERVICES REPORT A LOCAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE THAT HAS BEEN CORRECTED TO SEA LEVEL. THE BARO PID, ON THE OTHER HAND, REPORTS THE ACTUAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE FOR THE ALTITUDE THE VEHICLE IS BEING OPERATED IN. LOCAL WEATHER CONDITIONS (HIGH AND LOW PRESSURE AREAS) WILL CHANGE THE LOCAL BAROMETRIC PRESSURE BY SEVERAL INCHES OF MERCURY (±3 Hz, ±1 in. Hg.).

NOTE: BARO IS UPDATED ONLY WHEN THE VEHICLE IS AT HIGH THROTTLE OPENINGS. THEREFORE, A VEHICLE WHICH IS DRIVEN DOWN FROM A HIGHER ALTITUDE MAY NOT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE BARO VALUE IN KAM. IF YOU ARE NOT CONFIDENT THAT BARO HAS BEEN UPDATED, PERFORM THREE OR FOUR HEAVY, SUSTAINED ACCELERATIONS AT GREATER THAN HALF-THROTTLE TO ALLOW BARO TO UPDATE.

BAROMETRIC PRESSURE REFERENCE.
Barometric Pressure (in. Hg.) Barometric Pressure (kPa) BARO/MAP PID (Hz) Altitude above sea level (ft)
3.5 11.8 89.3
5 16.9 92.8
10 33.8 104.6
15 50.7 117.0 14,000
20 67.5 129.6 10,000
21 70.9 132.5 9,000
22 74.3 135.4 8,000
23 77.7 138.3 7,000
24 81.1 141.1 6,000
25 84.4 144.0 5,000
26 87.8 146.9 4,000
27 91.2 149.8 3,000
28 94.6 152.8 2,000
29 97.9 155.8 1,000
30 101.3 158.9 0 (sea level)
31 104.7 162.0
31.875 107.7 164.7

On a fully warmed up engine, look at Long Term Fuel Trim at idle, in Neutral, A/C off, (LONGFT1 and/or LONGFT2 PIDs). If it is more negative than -12%, the fuel system has learned lean corrections which may be due to the MAF sensor over-estimating air flow at idle. Note that both Banks 1 and 2 will exhibit negative corrections for 2-bank system. If only one bank of a 2-bank system has negative corrections, the MAF sensor is probably not contaminated.
On a fully warmed up engine, look at MAF voltage at idle, in Neutral, A/C off (MAF V PID). If it's 30% greater than the nominal MAF V voltage listed in the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) Diagnostic Value Reference Charts for your vehicle, or greater than 1.1 volts as a rough guide, the MAF sensor is over-estimating air flow at idle.
If at least two of the previous three steps are true, proceed to disconnect the MAF sensor connector. This puts the vehicle into Failure Mode, and Effects Management (FMEM). In FMEM mode, air flow is inferred by using rpm, and throttle position instead of reading the MAF sensor. (In addition, the BARO value is reset to a base/unlearned value.) If the lean driveability symptoms go away, the MAF sensor is probably contaminated, and should be replaced. If the lean driveability symptoms do not go away, go to the PC/ED Service Manual for the appropriate diagnostics.
NOTE: DUE TO INCREASINGLY STRINGENT EMISSION/OBDII REQUIREMENTS, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SOME VEHICLES WITH MAF SENSOR CONTAMINATION TO SET FUEL SYSTEM DTCs, AND ILLUMINATE THE MIL WITH NO DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS. DISCONNECTING THE MAF ON THESE VEHICLES WILL, THEREFORE, PRODUCE NO IMPROVEMENTS IN DRIVEABILITY. IN THESE CASES, IF THE BARO, LONGFT1, LONGFT2, AND MAF V PIDs INDICATE THAT THE MAF IS CONTAMINATED, PROCEED TO REPLACE THE MAF SENSOR.

After replacing the MAF sensor, disconnect the vehicle battery (5 minutes, minimum) to reset KAM, or on newer vehicles, use the "KAM Reset" feature on the New Generation Star (NGS) Tester, and verify that the lean driveability symptoms are gone.
 






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