Convert V8 AWD to BW 4406 Manual Shift- A how to thread

*gavin* · 06-06-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99ex22

Thanks for the info, you think a dremel with a cutting wheel attachment would work?

that should work.

I cut through a 3/4" bolt with one of those, to shorten it down.

99ex22 · 06-11-2010, 05:58 PM

What shaft is the conversion u joint for? And if it's for the front, which side of the shaft?

*gavin* · 06-11-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99ex22

What shaft is the conversion u joint for? And if it's for the front, which side of the shaft?

front shaft pinion u-joint

*bronco2guy* · 06-25-2010, 05:57 PM

I might have missed this, but does anyone know if a 98 F150- with 4.6, 5spd and 4406 Manual, would that front driveshaft work without Modification? Thanks
Also the seller said the 98 does have VSS port on it also.

*gmanpaint* · 06-25-2010, 06:30 PM

First post says 97 + 4.6 L from a F-150 will work for front drive shaft.

*bronco2guy* · 06-25-2010, 06:42 PM

Auto and 5spd, may have different lengths??

my pos mounty · 06-25-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco2guy

Auto and 5spd, may have different lengths??

I tried to cross reference this question by using www.car-part.com.
I entered 1998, Ford F-150,front driveshaft.
It does not ask you to specify whether or not the truck is a manual or automatic.
I would assume, given this information, that the driveshafts would be the same length.

topofffun · 06-28-2010, 11:14 AM

I went to the local salvage yard. I picked up a manual 4406 with an expedition rear ds for 250$. I just need to get the linkage now. I think Im going to have a front ds made.

What kind of sealant did you guys use between the t-case and trans?

*gavin* · 06-28-2010, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topofffun

I went to the local salvage yard. I picked up a manual 4406 with an expedition rear ds for 250$. I just need to get the linkage now. I think Im going to have a front ds made.

What kind of sealant did you guys use between the t-case and trans?

as for what everybody else used I don't know, but there is a (basically) cardboard/paperboard "gasket" that goes there.

although some good rtv should work also.

my pos mounty · 06-28-2010, 11:39 AM

Used RTV

topofffun · 06-28-2010, 01:00 PM

Ok thank you,

Im very excited about this install!!

FYI its 150$ for just these two parts....

Lower lever (part that bolts to the transmission) F65Z7210BC
Upper lever (the rod in the cab) F65Z7210AB

topofffun · 07-03-2010, 12:52 PM

Im in the middle of this install .......

Im wondering where is was mentioned how to actually gert the 4406 in place. I took the bracket for the gas tank off. I have virtually no clearance. I cannot get it inline with the trans to bolt in because the exhaust is in the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**MountaineerGreen** · 07-04-2010, 12:35 AM

I think a rear catalytic converter needs to be moved / removed.....

topofffun · 07-04-2010, 09:18 AM

I finally got it in with a floor jack and a couple tons of pressure !! Finishing touches today!

Orangeoutlaw · 07-04-2010, 02:08 PM

I completed my swap however the front shaft is to long. It came out of a 98 4.6 f150 auto. Is the an alternative that is a tad shorter ?

topofffun · 07-04-2010, 04:51 PM

As soon as I figure out what front DS im running ill let you know...... I have to go back to the junk yard they gave me the wrong rear shaft long story. Im going to try and retro fit my superlift front DS with the right yoke.

topofffun · 07-08-2010, 07:13 PM

I got a front cv drive shaft from a 1995 Jeep cherokee with a 4.0l. I used this flange http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/pr...I-211229X.html they are great to deal with. Tell them Jim sent you. lol With that combo the front drive shaft works perfect as noted before it uses the same u-joints.

THANK YOU guys for all the info

This is about what I paid to do this swap... well after I exchanged parts got the right ones :

T-Case.... 175$
Linkage and handle... 150$
Rear drive shaft... 33$
Front drive shaft 30$
Flange from Northern 60$
Misc hurst shift handle ect 60

508 ish not bad....

yellowford · 07-11-2010, 09:04 PM

Just thought I'd throw up some info incase anyone needs it.
The front 5.4 shaft will work mine is from an 04 F150 and is the correct length.
The shift linkage that seems to be really hard to track down, doesn't have to be, the linkage and shifter from a the BW1356 case will work as well with the only necessary modification that needs to be performed is to drill a new hole in the linkage shortening it up. Mine came from a 96F150.

*nobodyspecial* · 07-20-2010, 12:00 PM

Is there a recommended fluid for the 4406, or just plain ATF?

my pos mounty · 07-20-2010, 12:04 PM

I seem to recall that theres actually a tag on the T/case that says to use Mercon ATF. Thats what I used

06-11-2010, 05:58 PM	#222
99ex22 Wannabe Elite Explorer Wilsonville, Oregon 2000 5.0L 4x4 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,423 Vehicle Specs	What shaft is the conversion u joint for? And if it's for the front, which side of the shaft? __________________ 2000 Eddie Bauer 5.0L Mac, Cat Back, BW 4406, SOA, Sloped body lift , TT, 33x12.5 BFG A/T's http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=302807 Lift your explorer!- http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=238214

06-25-2010, 06:30 PM	#225
gmanpaint Torsion Bar Free since 2010 94 XLT-95 FX4 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,928 Vehicle Specs	First post says 97 + 4.6 L from a F-150 will work for front drive shaft. __________________ The Black Hole Pugly

06-28-2010, 11:14 AM	#228
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	project started I went to the local salvage yard. I picked up a manual 4406 with an expedition rear ds for 250$. I just need to get the linkage now. I think Im going to have a front ds made. What kind of sealant did you guys use between the t-case and trans? __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH

06-28-2010, 01:00 PM	#231
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	Ok thank you, Im very excited about this install!! FYI its 150$ for just these two parts.... Lower lever (part that bolts to the transmission) F65Z7210BC Upper lever (the rod in the cab) F65Z7210AB __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH Last edited by topofffun; 07-01-2010 at 10:21 AM.

07-03-2010, 12:52 PM	#232
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	so..... Im in the middle of this install ....... Im wondering where is was mentioned how to actually gert the 4406 in place. I took the bracket for the gas tank off. I have virtually no clearance. I cannot get it inline with the trans to bolt in because the exhaust is in the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH

06-25-2010, 05:57 PM	#224
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,348 Vehicle Specs	I might have missed this, but does anyone know if a 98 F150- with 4.6, 5spd and 4406 Manual, would that front driveshaft work without Modification? Thanks Also the seller said the 98 does have VSS port on it also.

06-25-2010, 06:42 PM	#226
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,348 Vehicle Specs	Auto and 5spd, may have different lengths??

06-28-2010, 11:39 AM	#230
my pos mounty Wannabe Elite Explorer Land of Corruption 06 F-350 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,816 Vehicle Specs	Used RTV

07-04-2010, 12:35 AM	#233
MountaineerGreen Towing Moderator North East Arkansas 2012 F150 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7,589 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I think a rear catalytic converter needs to be moved / removed..... __________________ -Evan Febuary 09 Feature Truck - Elite Registry - Photo Gallery - Feedback - Go Elite! - My Write Ups - EF Vendors

07-04-2010, 09:18 AM	#234
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	I finally got it in with a floor jack and a couple tons of pressure !! Finishing touches today! __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH

07-04-2010, 02:08 PM	#235
Orangeoutlaw Wannabe Elite Explorer Morganton nc Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 61 Vehicle Specs	Front Driveshaft I completed my swap however the front shaft is to long. It came out of a 98 4.6 f150 auto. Is the an alternative that is a tad shorter ?

07-04-2010, 04:51 PM	#236
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	As soon as I figure out what front DS im running ill let you know...... I have to go back to the junk yard they gave me the wrong rear shaft long story. Im going to try and retro fit my superlift front DS with the right yoke. __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH

07-08-2010, 07:13 PM	#237
topofffun Wannabe Elite Explorer Neenah, Wi 01 Explorer 4 door Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 94 Vehicle Specs	Best combo I got a front cv drive shaft from a 1995 Jeep cherokee with a 4.0l. I used this flange http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/pr...I-211229X.html they are great to deal with. Tell them Jim sent you. lol With that combo the front drive shaft works perfect as noted before it uses the same u-joints. THANK YOU guys for all the info This is about what I paid to do this swap... well after I exchanged parts got the right ones : T-Case.... 175$ Linkage and handle... 150$ Rear drive shaft... 33$ Front drive shaft 30$ Flange from Northern 60$ Misc hurst shift handle ect 60 508 ish not bad.... __________________ 2001 4dr 5.0l Cut airbox, Superlifted with FOX emulsions Bilstien 5100 rear, 4.56 f/r with locker in rear, Rear superlift springs with warrior shackles. FX4 wheels with 295 toyo: In progress 4406 and TMH

07-11-2010, 09:04 PM	#238
yellowford Wannabe Elite Explorer Gardner ks 97 xj Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 915 Vehicle Specs	Just thought I'd throw up some info incase anyone needs it. The front 5.4 shaft will work mine is from an 04 F150 and is the correct length. The shift linkage that seems to be really hard to track down, doesn't have to be, the linkage and shifter from a the BW1356 case will work as well with the only necessary modification that needs to be performed is to drill a new hole in the linkage shortening it up. Mine came from a 96F150. __________________ 97 Heep Cherokee 01 explorer sport 2wd

07-20-2010, 12:00 PM	#239
nobodyspecial God, guns and trucks. ND Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 318 Vehicle Specs	Is there a recommended fluid for the 4406, or just plain ATF? __________________ Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.

07-20-2010, 12:04 PM	#240
my pos mounty Wannabe Elite Explorer Land of Corruption 06 F-350 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,816 Vehicle Specs	I seem to recall that theres actually a tag on the T/case that says to use Mercon ATF. Thats what I used