"TURDLE" or " How to mess up a perfectly good truck"

*rocket 5979* · 06-11-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsmith

Thanks
Pictures lie though-

I haven't had it on a dyno yet, it is still on the stock tune. I think a WOT pull would be a bad idea.

Jon.... GET YOUR BABY TUNED....GET YOUR BABY TUNED....get your baby tuned....

I swear I almost want to just send you a brand new Xcal2 with a tune for your truck for free, just so that you have that darn thing tuned! Sell plasma, donate sperm (no, not to the wife or babysitter

), sit on a corner and collect change in a tin cup but get that puppy tuned bro.

If you do not do this within one month James or I will be forced to slam your junk in the toilet lid.

Good luck buddy.

**Turdle** · 06-11-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CDW6212R

Yes, flash it. It must be close enough to not blow up, you haven't babied it. I've got a VC2000 tester, now obsolete, but it works well for 1/4 mile times, etc.

I think it would ping hard at WOT

this engine has not seen that yet.
There is a 61 percent throttle stop.
even floored, that is being babied!!

*CDW6212R* · 06-11-2007, 05:51 PM

Yes I forgot that, how much trouble was that to do? I could not have driven it for as long as you have without hitting it. I run my vehicles through all throttle ranges almost every time I drive. Regards,

**Turdle** · 06-11-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CDW6212R

Yes I forgot that, how much trouble was that to do? I could not have driven it for as long as you have without hitting it. I run my vehicles through all throttle ranges almost every time I drive. Regards,

Me too, that's why it is there-
I could make it open up, by adjusting the throttle cable bracket.

*Spas* · 07-21-2007, 10:59 PM

I have to ask the inevitable question, although I'm surprised that I didn't see it asked already... What would you say the cost of the engine parts set you back? If I were to hazard a guess, I'd put it around 5k withOUT the cost of setting it up thrown in?

You inspire me, you evil monkey

**Turdle** · 07-22-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spas

I have to ask the inevitable question, although I'm surprised that I didn't see it asked already... What would you say the cost of the engine parts set you back? If I were to hazard a guess, I'd put it around 5k withOUT the cost of setting it up thrown in?

You inspire me, you evil monkey

If you mean everything to make it work--so far?

I'm in deeper--over 10k

*rocket 5979* · 07-22-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsmith

If you mean everything to make it work--so far?

I'm in deeper--over 10k

Hehe don't feel bad. There is always someone with worse affliction. Last I counted 5 months back I passed $25k just under the hood in total. That number should stay put for a while until winter when H/C's see their way in. $30k in parts alone by next summer is a good possibility.

10k is not small chunk of change for a N/A setup though! Jesus! Of course, I know some of the special things you have in your truck that would probably tend to raise the price a little.

billet *****....

*Spas* · 07-22-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket 5979

Hehe don't feel bad. There is always someone with worse affliction. Last I counted 5 months back I passed $25k just under the hood in total. That number should stay put for a while until winter when H/C's see their way in. $30k in parts alone by next summer is a good possibility.

10k is not small chunk of change for a N/A setup though! Jesus! Of course, I know some of the special things you have in your truck that would probably tend to raise the price a little.

billet *****....

I caught the "B" word a few times when I was reading his parts list. 'B'='E', as in extra expensive, lol. But it's all worth it in the end, right? At least that's what I keep telling my wallet, anyway

It's difficult for a novice to figure out what engine parts you can leave stock and still have minimal chance of breakage, and which ones should definitely be replaced with stronger material. Have I mentioned how glad I am that you guys write such detailed build ups?

97awd347 · 12-29-2007, 08:04 AM

Hello all i am new to this site and i must say it is very nice. Jon your truck is awesome. Thats exactly what i want to do to my 97 EB awd hence the name. I was told that using any cam other than stock will upset the explorers computer. Is this true? did you have any major problems using the cam that you did. I hope to have this all up and running by summer 08. I am sure i will have more questions. Thanks to all for any input Happy New Year

aquill1 · 12-29-2007, 08:16 AM

That was nice I want some more videos...$10k in motor alone....dang I'm trying to get a mounty for under that!

**Turdle** · 12-29-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 97awd347

Hello all i am new to this site and i must say it is very nice. Jon your truck is awesome. Thats exactly what i want to do to my 97 EB awd hence the name. I was told that using any cam other than stock will upset the explorers computer. Is this true? did you have any major problems using the cam that you did. I hope to have this all up and running by summer 08. I am sure i will have more questions. Thanks to all for any input Happy New Year

The Explorer PCM is very adaptable-however there is the rev limiter.

My truck is running "fine" on the stock tune-to a point. The stock tune will not keep up with the fuel demands at WOT. I have all the gadgets to finally tune mine right-but I have more pressing issues on front burners right now.

I suggest you contact James Henson (jah81592) at
www.hensonperformance.com

aquill1 · 12-29-2007, 08:17 PM

What do you get mpg wise! I'm dying to know!

**Turdle** · 12-29-2007, 08:29 PM

On the highway-babying it -never over 3000 rpm's or 70mph I can squeeze over 20mpg--

fordsRfun · 01-09-2008, 11:28 AM

Why didn't you just swap out blocks to a 351 Windsor, gas milage?

**Turdle** · 01-09-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fordsRfun

Why didn't you just swap out blocks to a 351 Windsor, gas milage?

There are several reasons
1 clearance issues with the oil pan and sump-
2 the deck height wouldn't fit
3 Dis ignition would require a custom cam sensor , oil pump drive unit

And it goes on--

fordsRfun · 01-09-2008, 11:52 AM

Makes sense to me... Not to mention the whole computer controlled engine thing might be a bit of a bottleneck! Perhaps someday my 5.0 will be as cool as your, someday, maybe, if I am lucky.

*CDW6212R* · 01-09-2008, 11:52 AM

BTW, I got an estimate for the 28oz. balancer to have a crank trigger, and a 94/95 pulley. How's $320 sound, it's more than I was hoping for. The balancer is the typical 79+ Ford piece, obviously the labor is the catch. Who wants an under drive crank pulley now? Don't even ask what the blower pulley costs. Regards,

danderson · 01-18-2008, 05:04 PM

Nice Ride

Can I Get Some Specs On Your Motor Swap!!!!

*Sams01XplrSprt* · 01-24-2008, 01:45 PM

nice mounty u got there jt

*CDW6212R* · 01-24-2008, 06:04 PM

Jon, here's the first posting of the special 28oz. balancer for an Explorer V8. One piece done, next is the fun part. Regards,

06-11-2007, 05:51 PM	#103
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,937 Vehicle Specs	Yes I forgot that, how much trouble was that to do? I could not have driven it for as long as you have without hitting it. I run my vehicles through all throttle ranges almost every time I drive. Regards, __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

07-21-2007, 10:59 PM	#105
Spas It's all Jack's fault Freakland, Pa 5 Sploder herd Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,658 Vehicle Specs	I have to ask the inevitable question, although I'm surprised that I didn't see it asked already... What would you say the cost of the engine parts set you back? If I were to hazard a guess, I'd put it around 5k withOUT the cost of setting it up thrown in? You inspire me, you evil monkey __________________ My machines: Blackjack, Morgan and Bullet. (Plus Frankenstein, Blackjack's b!tch ). Come hang with the cool kids this June!

12-29-2007, 08:04 AM	#109
97awd347 Wannabe Elite Explorer Silver Spring Md 1997 AWD Eddie Bauer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	New to the site Hello all i am new to this site and i must say it is very nice. Jon your truck is awesome. Thats exactly what i want to do to my 97 EB awd hence the name. I was told that using any cam other than stock will upset the explorers computer. Is this true? did you have any major problems using the cam that you did. I hope to have this all up and running by summer 08. I am sure i will have more questions. Thanks to all for any input Happy New Year

12-29-2007, 08:29 PM	#113
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,740 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	On the highway-babying it -never over 3000 rpm's or 70mph I can squeeze over 20mpg-- __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

01-09-2008, 11:28 AM	#114
fordsRfun Wannabe Elite Explorer hailey, ID 97 awd v8 xlt Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 60 Vehicle Specs	Block Why didn't you just swap out blocks to a 351 Windsor, gas milage?

12-29-2007, 08:16 AM	#110
aquill1 Wannabe Elite Explorer DFW, Texas previously a Michigander 2003 Mercury Mounty prem. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 103 Vehicle Specs	That was nice I want some more videos...$10k in motor alone....dang I'm trying to get a mounty for under that!

12-29-2007, 08:17 PM	#112
aquill1 Wannabe Elite Explorer DFW, Texas previously a Michigander 2003 Mercury Mounty prem. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 103 Vehicle Specs	What do you get mpg wise! I'm dying to know!

01-09-2008, 11:52 AM	#116
fordsRfun Wannabe Elite Explorer hailey, ID 97 awd v8 xlt Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 60 Vehicle Specs	Oic Makes sense to me... Not to mention the whole computer controlled engine thing might be a bit of a bottleneck! Perhaps someday my 5.0 will be as cool as your, someday, maybe, if I am lucky.

01-09-2008, 11:52 AM	#117
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,937 Vehicle Specs	BTW, I got an estimate for the 28oz. balancer to have a crank trigger, and a 94/95 pulley. How's $320 sound, it's more than I was hoping for. The balancer is the typical 79+ Ford piece, obviously the labor is the catch. Who wants an under drive crank pulley now? Don't even ask what the blower pulley costs. Regards, __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

01-18-2008, 05:04 PM	#118
danderson Wannabe Elite Explorer Eugene, Oregon 1999 Eddie Bauer V8 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 64 Vehicle Specs	Nice Ride Can I Get Some Specs On Your Motor Swap!!!!

01-24-2008, 01:45 PM	#119
Sams01XplrSprt Southern Cali Explorer Newport Beach California & Bay Area California 2001 Sport (sold) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15,633 Vehicle Specs	nice mounty u got there jt __________________ 2001 Ford Explorer Sport 4.0 sohc engine. Mods include: dual 40 series flowmasters & high flow k&n air filter & removed silencer & yellow fog lights (sold for $1,800) as of 2-26-12

01-24-2008, 06:04 PM	#120
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,937 Vehicle Specs	Jon, here's the first posting of the special 28oz. balancer for an Explorer V8. One piece done, next is the fun part. Regards, Attached Images __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)