Bathroom remodel..

**Turdle** · 03-21-2008, 08:13 PM

You are really humping along-
What will you do with yourself when it's finished?

tdavis · 03-21-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rizzjc

Really, heat? That's what I'm looking for. We have a garden tub that's too small, and a shower that's too small. I want to remove both and put in a larger, jacuzzi, tub, and if it had heat, that would be a double bonus! Sounds like this thing is just the ticket! Who makes it?

It's made by Jacuzzi, and it's from Lowes.

I cheated, and got one of the 10% off moving coupons, and went in ordered/picked it up. I also picked up the shower walls and base, plus the fixtures for the tub all at the same time.

Do note - it will not warm the water up, it will simply maintain temperature.

Also, you need two dedicated GFCI 15amp circuits - one for the pump, one for the the heater.

As for what I'm going to do - plenty of yard work to do still..

tdavis · 03-21-2008, 08:30 PM

So, this is an example of the wiring and boxes I pulled from the house.

The wire is known as 50c clothe jacketed - at 50degrees Celsius it starts to burn!

It also had no ground wire. Also found a MBWC - multiple Branched wired circuit. That's when you share a neutral between circuits. I removed that sucker also! No shared neutrals in this house!

The new wire is 90c jacketed - so it's much, much higher temperature rating.

The boxes is also small - barely big enough for 2 wires, plus a fixture.

**rizzjc** · 03-21-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdavis

It's made by Jacuzzi, and it's from Lowes.

I cheated, and got one of the 10% off moving coupons, and went in ordered/picked it up. I also picked up the shower walls and base, plus the fixtures for the tub all at the same time.

Do note - it will not warm the water up, it will simply maintain temperature.

Also, you need two dedicated GFCI 15amp circuits - one for the pump, one for the the heater.

As for what I'm going to do - plenty of yard work to do still..

Nice, thanks. I'll have to keep that in mind. Yeah, my wife complains that the water cools off too fast. Insulation sucks and they stuck the tub out in free space with open air under and in 2 sides. This would be nice!

tdavis · 03-24-2008, 12:44 PM

More signed off!

drywall - DONE.
stucco lathe - DONE.
stucco scratch - DONE.

Now, I need to find a earthquake shutoff valve for the gas line..

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdavis

there is still:

drywall (nail & screw)
stucco lathe
stucco scratch
stucco brown
stucco final
final

I was signed off on:

rough frame
rough electrical
rough plumbing
rough mechanical
insulation (wall & ceiling)

**Tbars4** · 03-24-2008, 01:07 PM

...check with your local gas company...they may supply it for you and/or install it for you...they have for me...if not, they can assist in locating it...

tdavis · 03-25-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbars4

...check with your local gas company...they may supply it for you and/or install it for you...they have for me...if not, they can assist in locating it...

PGE will not help.

http://www.pge.com/myhome/edusafety/...ke/gasshutoff/

Quote:

If a customer installs an excess flow gas shutoff valve or earthquake actuated gas shutoff valve, it should be one that is certified by the State of California and it should be installed by a licensed plumbing contractor in accordance to the manufacturers instructions. PG&E does not install or service seismic actuated or excess flow gas shutoff valves, or recommend specific contractors for customer applications.

**Tbars4** · 03-25-2008, 07:06 PM

...wow, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago...

http://socalgas.com/safety/valves.shtml

What if I already have a valve installed on The Gas Company's side?

If you have a valve that was installed by The Gas Company or one of its authorized contractors on or before the February 10, 2002 cutoff date, with proper documentation your installation may be allowed to remain in place

tdavis · 04-03-2008, 07:28 PM

So, I continue the saga of pulling down drywall, so I can insulate, seal, and do earthquake safety repairs..

The fireplace mantel is brick, and it's all loose.. so it's coming off to be re-built - I'm leaning towards travatine, I think the color would be a good match. I also want to put a wood burning insert in the fireplace, and they usually are all black.

tdavis · 04-03-2008, 07:29 PM

This shows where I need to do the earthquake repair - the beam isn't really held in place, and can slide/move around.

**Rick** · 04-03-2008, 07:35 PM

Tom, you certainly don't go half assed on anything

Looks like you are continuing to do a great job of restoring your place

tdavis · 04-03-2008, 08:07 PM

Yea, I remember the line from This Old House - "once you open the walls, your in for a world of trouble."

And that is the TRUTH!

I'll have one the safest homes on the block, and it will be energy efficient too!

TheJackal · 04-03-2008, 10:49 PM

Cool choice on the IKEA cabinets. I've been looking through the IKEA online catalog a bit and know when I move I'm going to order furniture from there.

How old was this house that it only had 2-conductor electric wire in it? Even my grandparent's house built in the late 1950s has a hot, neutral, and ground. The ground was connected to the metal electric boxes themselves, this was before the plastic ones. The outlets themselves were 2-prong.

tdavis · 05-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejackal

Cool choice on the IKEA cabinets. I've been looking through the IKEA online catalog a bit and know when I move I'm going to order furniture from there.

How old was this house that it only had 2-conductor electric wire in it? Even my grandparent's house built in the late 1950s has a hot, neutral, and ground. The ground was connected to the metal electric boxes themselves, this was before the plastic ones. The outlets themselves were 2-prong.

The house was built around the fall of 1959. I know the exact age, because I found the original building permits!

Matt (Rockranger) and his wife Tracy stopped by, and gave me a helping hand last Sunday - Hanging corner bead is no fun by yourself!

Thanks Matt & Tracy!

I have since proceeded to sand the tip off of one of my fingers, and boy does it hurts..

Some pics, and the fireplace disaster..

Now, the hard part - choosing colors to paint with. The ceiling in here DOMINATES the colors, and I am NOT painting it - so it really does limit what colors I can choose.

*RockRanger* · 05-02-2008, 10:32 PM

Tracy and I were glad we were able to help you out. You are doing a great job and we can't wait to see the finished project.

**Rick** · 05-03-2008, 09:48 AM

That's really coming along! Looks great

**Rick** · 05-03-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdavis

The wire is known as 50c clothe jacketed - at 50degrees Celsius it starts to burn!

It also had no ground wire.

That stuff was scary when it was brand new

**Turdle** · 05-03-2008, 10:06 AM

I think any color would look good with a natural shade of wood-as long as it is a lighter shade.You could use the window trim to match the ceiling.

Looking good Tom.

*DB_1* · 05-08-2008, 10:41 PM

Tom, I really wish I could've helped while I was up there but I had other crap to deal with back home

I'll be back up there around the 19th of this month to help out Matt again so hopefully I can find time to help you out as well if you can wait

I'll keep in touch

tdavis · 05-09-2008, 12:52 AM

I have the contractor back doing more drywall, and we will be ready to paint starting after next week...

I had them start to sand the old walls with the painted on texture, and that stuff is HARD. 36 grit sand paper with a palm sander, and it barely dents it. Then it gets skim coated, and the whole place is back to smooth wall.

03-21-2008, 08:13 PM	#141
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,745 Vehicle Specs	You are really humping along- What will you do with yourself when it's finished? __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

03-21-2008, 08:30 PM	#143
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6,000 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	So, this is an example of the wiring and boxes I pulled from the house. The wire is known as 50c clothe jacketed - at 50degrees Celsius it starts to burn! It also had no ground wire. Also found a MBWC - multiple Branched wired circuit. That's when you share a neutral between circuits. I removed that sucker also! No shared neutrals in this house! The new wire is 90c jacketed - so it's much, much higher temperature rating. The boxes is also small - barely big enough for 2 wires, plus a fixture. Attached Images __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

03-24-2008, 01:07 PM	#146
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,911 Vehicle Specs	...check with your local gas company...they may supply it for you and/or install it for you...they have for me...if not, they can assist in locating it... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

03-25-2008, 07:06 PM	#148
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,911 Vehicle Specs	...wow, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago... http://socalgas.com/safety/valves.shtml What if I already have a valve installed on The Gas Company's side? If you have a valve that was installed by The Gas Company or one of its authorized contractors on or before the February 10, 2002 cutoff date, with proper documentation your installation may be allowed to remain in place __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

04-03-2008, 07:28 PM	#149
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6,000 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	So, I continue the saga of pulling down drywall, so I can insulate, seal, and do earthquake safety repairs.. The fireplace mantel is brick, and it's all loose.. so it's coming off to be re-built - I'm leaning towards travatine, I think the color would be a good match. I also want to put a wood burning insert in the fireplace, and they usually are all black. Attached Images __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

04-03-2008, 07:29 PM	#150
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6,000 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	This shows where I need to do the earthquake repair - the beam isn't really held in place, and can slide/move around. Attached Images __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

04-03-2008, 07:35 PM	#151
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,245 Vehicle Specs	Tom, you certainly don't go half assed on anything Looks like you are continuing to do a great job of restoring your place __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

04-03-2008, 08:07 PM	#152
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6,000 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Yea, I remember the line from This Old House - "once you open the walls, your in for a world of trouble." And that is the TRUTH! I'll have one the safest homes on the block, and it will be energy efficient too! __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)

04-03-2008, 10:49 PM	#153
TheJackal Wannabe Elite Explorer Mandeville, LA 1999 Explorer XL 2WD Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,067 Vehicle Specs	Cool choice on the IKEA cabinets. I've been looking through the IKEA online catalog a bit and know when I move I'm going to order furniture from there. How old was this house that it only had 2-conductor electric wire in it? Even my grandparent's house built in the late 1950s has a hot, neutral, and ground. The ground was connected to the metal electric boxes themselves, this was before the plastic ones. The outlets themselves were 2-prong.

05-02-2008, 10:32 PM	#155
RockRanger Elite Ranger Fresno CA 86 ranger no more Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,261 Vehicle Specs	Tracy and I were glad we were able to help you out. You are doing a great job and we can't wait to see the finished project.

05-03-2008, 09:48 AM	#156
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,245 Vehicle Specs	That's really coming along! Looks great __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

05-03-2008, 10:06 AM	#158
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,745 Vehicle Specs	I think any color would look good with a natural shade of wood-as long as it is a lighter shade.You could use the window trim to match the ceiling. Looking good Tom. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

05-08-2008, 10:41 PM	#159
DB_1 Elite Ranger La Quinta, Ca. 97 SC Ranger xlt Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,428 Vehicle Specs	Tom, I really wish I could've helped while I was up there but I had other crap to deal with back home I'll be back up there around the 19th of this month to help out Matt again so hopefully I can find time to help you out as well if you can wait I'll keep in touch __________________ 97 Ranger...what's left of it

05-09-2008, 12:52 AM	#160
tdavis Linux Guru Jack of All Trades Pinole, CA 2001 F250/XLT Superduty Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6,000 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I have the contractor back doing more drywall, and we will be ready to paint starting after next week... I had them start to sand the old walls with the painted on texture, and that stuff is HARD. 36 grit sand paper with a palm sander, and it barely dents it. Then it gets skim coated, and the whole place is back to smooth wall. __________________ Thomas Davis Chased vehicle -> Honda VFR800 Tow vehicle -> Ford F250 Superduty Frankenstein Rock Crawler - > Suzuki Samurai (sold, onto the next project..)