Overhead console display fix

Popeye1959 · 01-29-2012, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electromech guru

Also before the LCD display completely stopped turning on completely it progressively took longer and longer to turn on as well. Sometimes taking more than 5 minutes.

Sounds like mine, but my display is working now due to the resistor swap.

Electromech guru · 01-30-2012, 02:19 PM

Here's some info on the capacitor
120 microfarad, 6.3v, and you can get it off of Newark.com for 19 cents, yes $0.19 ($0.185 is what it actually says) before taxes and shipping (expect $5ish for shipping but any time I've ordered anything it got to my house in 2 or 3 days). This should be a good replacement and I am actually going to buy me a couple of these since they are so cheap (not a bad idea considering the prongs are prone to breaking easily if bent) the use of fine solder is recommended.

The Newark part # 65R3866
The manufacturer part # UPW0J121MDD1TD
Made by Nichicon

Hope this helps

Nose2Grindstone · 01-31-2012, 06:20 AM

Dan at www.siliconmethod.com repaired our Explorer compass; he did a great job. I took a look at the work and it is professional, plus all new parts on the board. Highly recommended.

I didn't want to send it out, but it kept going out on us and didn't want to deal with it anymore. :/

RCubed · 01-31-2012, 03:40 PM

My 2004 Sport Trac developed this problem. I couldn't see any issues with the solder joints. However, with the board plugged in I could get the display to work by slightly pressing on the 510 resistors, so I know the solder joints must be cracked.

I don't have the tools to solder the joints right now, so I dreamed up a temporary solution. Using a tootsie roll wrapper, I folded the paper in half 4 or 5 times and taped it to the cover, positioning it just so, so that when the unit is assembled, the wrapper presses on the resistors just enough to and complete the connection. So far this fix is working.

I'm off to Radio Shack to purchase a soldering iron to make a permanent repair, but I just may see how long this temporary fix will work.

P.S. Any piece of paper would work. I just used what I had handy.

Torrecelli · 02-03-2012, 09:32 PM

Thank you Thallarsen!
My board was different than the one in your excellent instructions, I have the other style shown on I think, page 3 of this thread. I resoldered the resistors, and figured, what the heck, I've got it apart, so reflowed the rest of the surface mount components, reassembled and reinstalled, and it worked like a champ!

Thallarsen · 02-03-2012, 10:03 PM

Glad it worked!

rokr1292 · 02-04-2012, 01:25 PM

Just tried installing my console, and it wouldn't power on. I checked my ground and power, fine. Gonna try to see if this is my problem next chance I get. I hope it is, seems easy enough to fix, actually, no, I HOPE my problem is that the console is "off" so all I have to do is hit a button. The resistors are a close second.

rokr1292 · 02-05-2012, 09:45 PM

No luck. My circuitboard seemed solid, no breaks or cracks that I can find. Pics of my board just because. I think I might just pull another from the jy sometime soon. Unless someone has another idea/ instructions on how I could bench test it?

**Turdle** · 02-05-2012, 10:16 PM

Did you resolder the 510 chiklets? The bottom one looks "cold" on the right hand side.

rokr1292 · 02-05-2012, 10:52 PM

No I didn't do any soldering, I just checked to see if it was loose at all, I hadn't thought of a cold solder... maybe its worth investigating. I've got all the time in the world tomorrow, ill give it a shot. Thanks for reminding me about those.

**Turdle** · 02-05-2012, 11:01 PM

Get the iron "tinned" good, then hold the center of the chiklet with a toothpick. Touch one end at a time or the chicklet will jump off.Try to heat the board contact and the end of the resistor simultaneously.

If it does jump off after touching one end, you know you found a bad solder joint because the other end should have held, if it was good.

rokr1292 · 02-06-2012, 12:51 PM

Alright so I went and soldered for my first time, I did both sides of both resistors, starting with the botttom left. I did better than I thought, and got better. I did bottom right nextt, then top left, and sure enough, the right side of the top resistor popped off. Repositioned it, soldered it, then went out to plug it in and test it. I had a feeling I screwed something up, and when I plugged it in, I thought it was confirmed. NOTHING happened. Until I remembered to check the mode button. And boom, the screen was on.

Thanks to everybody, I couldn't be happier right now.

**Turdle** · 02-06-2012, 12:55 PM

I was cheering for ya!

seamonster53 · 02-07-2012, 06:35 PM

Thanks, Worked for me, actually the entire chip came loose and got it back in place. When I popped in back in place (it worked again), I was temped to crazy glue it, But soldered it. Thanks again.

seamonster53 · 02-07-2012, 06:37 PM

cruise control buttons next.

sjonbo · 02-16-2012, 12:09 PM

Thallarsen

Thanks buddy, this thread was I great help and my display is working again.

Thallarsen · 02-16-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjonbo

Thallarsen

Thanks buddy, this thread was I great help and my display is working again.

Glad to be of help. What's that display showing there in Iceland these days?

*theluke19* · 02-19-2012, 02:04 PM

Dove into this at about midnight last night- Those connectors are a booger!!! Once those were undone, everything else was a snap. I did question the need for resolder at first, after seeing them.

Then, I saw this part on the screen, and really hoped I didn't need a new screen:

Went ahead and did it anyways:

and, wouldn't you know it:

thanks for all of the help!!!!

Thallarsen · 02-19-2012, 09:50 PM

Thanks for the great pictures!!!

cattleshow · 03-02-2012, 08:58 PM

Getting around to fixing some things on my 99 explorer sport today.
Ive wished for a long time the overhead display was useable. Well I said to myself ,I bet someone else has that problem and knows what to do.
Short story--I soldered the two 510 resisters as recommended and yes it works perfect.
Love it when something works.
Thanks to all who perfected the repair for us.

01-30-2012, 02:19 PM	#222
Electromech guru Wannabe Elite Explorer 1996 explorer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs	Replacement capacitor for 2nd gen. explorer w/out sunroof Here's some info on the capacitor 120 microfarad, 6.3v, and you can get it off of Newark.com for 19 cents, yes $0.19 ($0.185 is what it actually says) before taxes and shipping (expect $5ish for shipping but any time I've ordered anything it got to my house in 2 or 3 days). This should be a good replacement and I am actually going to buy me a couple of these since they are so cheap (not a bad idea considering the prongs are prone to breaking easily if bent) the use of fine solder is recommended. The Newark part # 65R3866 The manufacturer part # UPW0J121MDD1TD Made by Nichicon Hope this helps

01-31-2012, 06:20 AM	#223
Nose2Grindstone Wannabe Elite Explorer 2004 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	repairing your overhead compass Dan at www.siliconmethod.com repaired our Explorer compass; he did a great job. I took a look at the work and it is professional, plus all new parts on the board. Highly recommended. I didn't want to send it out, but it kept going out on us and didn't want to deal with it anymore. :/ Last edited by Nose2Grindstone; 01-31-2012 at 06:22 AM. Reason: thought I had the name wrong...

01-31-2012, 03:40 PM	#224
RCubed Wannabe Elite Explorer Maryland 2004 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	Overhead console display fix - unorthodox temp. solution My 2004 Sport Trac developed this problem. I couldn't see any issues with the solder joints. However, with the board plugged in I could get the display to work by slightly pressing on the 510 resistors, so I know the solder joints must be cracked. I don't have the tools to solder the joints right now, so I dreamed up a temporary solution. Using a tootsie roll wrapper, I folded the paper in half 4 or 5 times and taped it to the cover, positioning it just so, so that when the unit is assembled, the wrapper presses on the resistors just enough to and complete the connection. So far this fix is working. I'm off to Radio Shack to purchase a soldering iron to make a permanent repair, but I just may see how long this temporary fix will work. P.S. Any piece of paper would work. I just used what I had handy.

02-03-2012, 09:32 PM	#225
Torrecelli Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4 Vehicle Specs	96 Explorer XLT, no moonroof Thank you Thallarsen! My board was different than the one in your excellent instructions, I have the other style shown on I think, page 3 of this thread. I resoldered the resistors, and figured, what the heck, I've got it apart, so reflowed the rest of the surface mount components, reassembled and reinstalled, and it worked like a champ! Last edited by Torrecelli; 02-03-2012 at 09:35 PM. Reason: added details

02-04-2012, 01:25 PM	#227
rokr1292 Wannabe Elite Explorer richardsville va '01 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 304 Vehicle Specs	Just tried installing my console, and it wouldn't power on. I checked my ground and power, fine. Gonna try to see if this is my problem next chance I get. I hope it is, seems easy enough to fix, actually, no, I HOPE my problem is that the console is "off" so all I have to do is hit a button. The resistors are a close second. __________________ Gold 2003 Ranger regcab 2.3 xlt. (Old dd, handed off) Silver 2001 Explorer Sport Trac 4x4 (new dd as of 3/7/11)

02-03-2012, 10:03 PM	#226
Thallarsen Wannabe Elite Explorer Potomac, Maryland '99 5.0 Limited AWD Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 125 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Glad it worked!

02-05-2012, 09:45 PM	#228
rokr1292 Wannabe Elite Explorer richardsville va '01 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 304 Vehicle Specs	No luck. My circuitboard seemed solid, no breaks or cracks that I can find. Pics of my board just because. I think I might just pull another from the jy sometime soon. Unless someone has another idea/ instructions on how I could bench test it? __________________ Gold 2003 Ranger regcab 2.3 xlt. (Old dd, handed off) Silver 2001 Explorer Sport Trac 4x4 (new dd as of 3/7/11)

02-05-2012, 10:16 PM	#229
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,745 Vehicle Specs	Did you resolder the 510 chiklets? The bottom one looks "cold" on the right hand side. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

02-05-2012, 10:52 PM	#230
rokr1292 Wannabe Elite Explorer richardsville va '01 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 304 Vehicle Specs	No I didn't do any soldering, I just checked to see if it was loose at all, I hadn't thought of a cold solder... maybe its worth investigating. I've got all the time in the world tomorrow, ill give it a shot. Thanks for reminding me about those. __________________ Gold 2003 Ranger regcab 2.3 xlt. (Old dd, handed off) Silver 2001 Explorer Sport Trac 4x4 (new dd as of 3/7/11)

02-05-2012, 11:01 PM	#231
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,745 Vehicle Specs	Get the iron "tinned" good, then hold the center of the chiklet with a toothpick. Touch one end at a time or the chicklet will jump off.Try to heat the board contact and the end of the resistor simultaneously. If it does jump off after touching one end, you know you found a bad solder joint because the other end should have held, if it was good. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

02-06-2012, 12:51 PM	#232
rokr1292 Wannabe Elite Explorer richardsville va '01 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 304 Vehicle Specs	Alright so I went and soldered for my first time, I did both sides of both resistors, starting with the botttom left. I did better than I thought, and got better. I did bottom right nextt, then top left, and sure enough, the right side of the top resistor popped off. Repositioned it, soldered it, then went out to plug it in and test it. I had a feeling I screwed something up, and when I plugged it in, I thought it was confirmed. NOTHING happened. Until I remembered to check the mode button. And boom, the screen was on. Thanks to everybody, I couldn't be happier right now. __________________ Gold 2003 Ranger regcab 2.3 xlt. (Old dd, handed off) Silver 2001 Explorer Sport Trac 4x4 (new dd as of 3/7/11)

02-06-2012, 12:55 PM	#233
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,745 Vehicle Specs	I was cheering for ya! __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

02-07-2012, 06:35 PM	#234
seamonster53 Wannabe Elite Explorer 02 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 4 Vehicle Specs	overhead console display Thanks, Worked for me, actually the entire chip came loose and got it back in place. When I popped in back in place (it worked again), I was temped to crazy glue it, But soldered it. Thanks again.

02-07-2012, 06:37 PM	#235
seamonster53 Wannabe Elite Explorer 02 Explorer Sport Trac Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 4 Vehicle Specs	cruise control buttons next.

02-16-2012, 12:09 PM	#236
sjonbo Wannabe Elite Explorer Reykjavik 2004 sport trac Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1 Vehicle Specs	Thallarsen Thanks buddy, this thread was I great help and my display is working again.

02-19-2012, 02:04 PM	#238
theluke19 Elite Explorer Denver, Co 2005 Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 795 Vehicle Specs	Dove into this at about midnight last night- Those connectors are a booger!!! Once those were undone, everything else was a snap. I did question the need for resolder at first, after seeing them. Then, I saw this part on the screen, and really hoped I didn't need a new screen: Went ahead and did it anyways: and, wouldn't you know it: thanks for all of the help!!!!

02-19-2012, 09:50 PM	#239
Thallarsen Wannabe Elite Explorer Potomac, Maryland '99 5.0 Limited AWD Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 125 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks for the great pictures!!!

03-02-2012, 08:58 PM	#240
cattleshow Wannabe Elite Explorer Central Texas 1999 explorer sport Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 72 Vehicle Specs	Getting around to fixing some things on my 99 explorer sport today. Ive wished for a long time the overhead display was useable. Well I said to myself ,I bet someone else has that problem and knows what to do. Short story--I soldered the two 510 resisters as recommended and yes it works perfect. Love it when something works. Thanks to all who perfected the repair for us.