Project X = Regear or SAS ???

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 05:18 PM

here is my dilema....i have 4.56 gears in the rear and i have 3.73's in the front....the 3.73's i can feel have slap in them....i am pretty sure the benefits of the sas outway the ifs but, i have yet to drive my X offroad and would like to see how it handles with it's current setup in 4wd....

I really don't want to go crazy as i want to get this rig wheelin asap....cost is another issue and i'm tight on money....i have seen 4.56 gears come and go on hear and i have also seen solid axles on here for sale...

now if anyone is willing to help out on parts or whatever, please chime in too...thanks....

**RangerX** · 06-12-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tbars4

i want to get this rig wheelin asap....cost is another issue and i'm tight on money....

There's yer answer. Regear. Even if you found an axle locally, it would take forever and alot of $ to get it wheelable. Regear for a few hundred bucks, done in one day.

*Stic-o* · 06-12-2007, 05:36 PM

LMAO!!!! No commet!

Ok really, just do the gears...for now for a few hundered.

You'll be back for SAS later, and then you sell the gears later

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 06:31 PM

sounds familiar stic-o???

i'm shopping now and until i rode in froaders i wouldn't have even thought about it ...i figure someone could help me out with some gears and that should be fine for this summer...it will give me time for the sas shopping for next summer but i am keeping this poll open for ideas, suggestions and help...thanks all

*Stic-o* · 06-12-2007, 06:42 PM

Get some quotes on gears from some vendors over on pirate. I bought all my gears off there, and got some great deals, and saved some cash

*carlover* · 06-12-2007, 06:49 PM

Also check dezertrangers, they have a ton of shops on there who will do gears. Some of them are probably very close to you.

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 08:31 PM

well, i just got a quote of 200 for ring and pinion and 150 for bearings races and shims and about 350 to install them for a total of 725.00 installed 4.56 gears....

cybergasm · 06-12-2007, 08:56 PM

I went easy on ya and voted for regear

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 09:11 PM

i guess i should start a poll asking how cheap can i get a sas done for???

*Stic-o* · 06-12-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tbars4

i guess i should start a poll asking how cheap can i get a sas done for???

What ever you think it will be ...double it!

Honestly, I never aded mine all the way...(too scared) But I would say any where between 3k-5k.

sshhhh...don't tell my wife

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 09:40 PM

lmao...anybody else with the price to their sas??? i'm sure i could do it for less with some help from my friends...and maybe some parts from pauls rig....

cybergasm · 06-12-2007, 10:28 PM

Like Stic-o says 3-5 k and thats just for parts,steel for fabrication etc that does not include labor if any because most folks do it themselves. well maybe labor for gear install if ya farm that out to a shop and driveshaft lenghtning.

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 10:32 PM

well i know they can cost more cause i seen one recently that had way over 15k into the front end so i'm thinking the norm is 3-5k and if i do this for next winters project and get some help i'm sure todo it cheaper

**FROADER** · 06-12-2007, 10:35 PM

I'm pretty sure Mark spent between 4 - 5k on mine.

**Tbars4** · 06-12-2007, 10:38 PM

i'm liking your ride more now that i have driven mine...mines a truck,lol...it's pretty stiff...so does 725 sound rite for gears and all the parts installed or way too much???

*RockRanger* · 06-14-2007, 10:31 PM

725 sounds kind of steep. I bet they would do it cheaper if you pulled the third and brought it into them. Most of us that have wheeled a TTB for a while can tear the front end apart in about an hour.

My SAS cost me about $3000. Seems kind of steep when you think about it. However, I now have new gears front and rear, new brakes front and rear, new wheel bearings all the way around, new driveshaft u joints in the rear shaft, and new tie rod ends. I figure I probably did my last brake job on that truck that I will ever do.

Most of us that say we spent 3-5k on a SAS are including new tires and rear diff gears. Both of those you already have so you dont have to worry about it.

*Stic-o* · 06-14-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RockRanger

Most of us that say we spent 3-5k on a SAS are including new tires and rear diff gears. Both of those you already have so you dont have to worry about it.

Correct, my included wheels, tires,shocks, gears, + install of gears and a new rear axle (junkyard), sense I went a full width in the rear to match the front. Mine would have been a liitle chaper if I just reused my rear axle, but not by too much. Besides...it turned out way better!

**Tbars4** · 06-14-2007, 10:57 PM

i checked into the 4.56 gears and kit for the front and my cost is 250...my mechanic will do everything for 120 or so...the only thing im waiting on is fly n hi to let me know if they have these items in there needing to sell inventory...

i am going to put up my 89 f-250 xcab 5.8 auto, which is actually a 1 ton, for sale since gas is coming down and if it don't sell i have a donor for a 5.8 and tranny swap, grunt grunt as tim allen would say, lmao...if i sell it, it will give me play money for a sas perhaps and a aussie locker in the rear would be perfect....

*sn0border88* · 06-18-2007, 09:03 PM

I had $1,700 in mine upon completion, but as I continue work it gets mroe and more every day. Now that im locked f/r, new r&p up front, all kinds of other stuff im at around 2.2k.

Keep the one tons and 5.8 and use that for the swap.

**Tbars4** · 06-18-2007, 09:17 PM

well, i never heard from fly n hi so i went to 4wheelparts and bought my 4.56 gears and aussie locker for the front...plus i found my double big gulp cup holder, lol, another story...anyways, i will be adding another aussie in the rear in a month or so i'm hoping so that will take care of the regear...

i will be needing all info for parts for a SAS and i may start a new thread on that but, i am still interested and thanks snowborder...

View Poll Results: Project X = Regear or SAS ???
Regear	4	50.00%
Solid Axle Swap	4	50.00%
Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll

06-12-2007, 05:18 PM	#1
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Project X = Regear or SAS ??? here is my dilema....i have 4.56 gears in the rear and i have 3.73's in the front....the 3.73's i can feel have slap in them....i am pretty sure the benefits of the sas outway the ifs but, i have yet to drive my X offroad and would like to see how it handles with it's current setup in 4wd.... I really don't want to go crazy as i want to get this rig wheelin asap....cost is another issue and i'm tight on money....i have seen 4.56 gears come and go on hear and i have also seen solid axles on here for sale... now if anyone is willing to help out on parts or whatever, please chime in too...thanks.... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 05:36 PM	#3
Stic-o Elite Movie Star Tujunga, CA '99 XL 4x4 & '06 XLT 4x2 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 12,425 Vehicle Specs	LMAO!!!! No commet! Ok really, just do the gears...for now for a few hundered. You'll be back for SAS later, and then you sell the gears later __________________ The JP Mobile ~'99 Explorer XL The Mall Crawler ~'06 Explorer XLT The Tow Rig ~ '05 F-150 SuperCrew The Commuter ~ '10 Focus SES

06-12-2007, 06:31 PM	#4
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	sounds familiar stic-o??? i'm shopping now and until i rode in froaders i wouldn't have even thought about it ...i figure someone could help me out with some gears and that should be fine for this summer...it will give me time for the sas shopping for next summer but i am keeping this poll open for ideas, suggestions and help...thanks all __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 06:42 PM	#5
Stic-o Elite Movie Star Tujunga, CA '99 XL 4x4 & '06 XLT 4x2 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 12,425 Vehicle Specs	Get some quotes on gears from some vendors over on pirate. I bought all my gears off there, and got some great deals, and saved some cash __________________ The JP Mobile ~'99 Explorer XL The Mall Crawler ~'06 Explorer XLT The Tow Rig ~ '05 F-150 SuperCrew The Commuter ~ '10 Focus SES

06-12-2007, 06:49 PM	#6
carlover Elite Explorer Fontana,CA '96 XL Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,006 Vehicle Specs	Also check dezertrangers, they have a ton of shops on there who will do gears. Some of them are probably very close to you. __________________ Sean. BTF built explorer race truck in progress. http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=216036 BTF-FABRICATION.COM

06-12-2007, 08:31 PM	#7
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	well, i just got a quote of 200 for ring and pinion and 150 for bearings races and shims and about 350 to install them for a total of 725.00 installed 4.56 gears.... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 08:56 PM	#8
cybergasm B Humboldt Ks 1997 Mountaineer 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,603 Vehicle Specs	I went easy on ya and voted for regear

06-12-2007, 09:11 PM	#9
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	i guess i should start a poll asking how cheap can i get a sas done for??? __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 09:40 PM	#11
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	lmao...anybody else with the price to their sas??? i'm sure i could do it for less with some help from my friends...and maybe some parts from pauls rig.... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 10:28 PM	#12
cybergasm B Humboldt Ks 1997 Mountaineer 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,603 Vehicle Specs	Like Stic-o says 3-5 k and thats just for parts,steel for fabrication etc that does not include labor if any because most folks do it themselves. well maybe labor for gear install if ya farm that out to a shop and driveshaft lenghtning.

06-12-2007, 10:32 PM	#13
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	well i know they can cost more cause i seen one recently that had way over 15k into the front end so i'm thinking the norm is 3-5k and if i do this for next winters project and get some help i'm sure todo it cheaper __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-12-2007, 10:35 PM	#14
FROADER Moderator Huntington Beach, CA Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 20,044 Vehicle Specs	I'm pretty sure Mark spent between 4 - 5k on mine. __________________ COLIN IGNACIO FORUM RULES My 2010 Explorer - Explorer #1 (sold) - Explorer #2 (sold) - My F-150 (sold) - My Ranger (sold) - My Videos

06-12-2007, 10:38 PM	#15
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	i'm liking your ride more now that i have driven mine...mines a truck,lol...it's pretty stiff...so does 725 sound rite for gears and all the parts installed or way too much??? __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-14-2007, 10:31 PM	#16
RockRanger Elite Ranger Fresno CA 86 ranger no more Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,261 Vehicle Specs	725 sounds kind of steep. I bet they would do it cheaper if you pulled the third and brought it into them. Most of us that have wheeled a TTB for a while can tear the front end apart in about an hour. My SAS cost me about $3000. Seems kind of steep when you think about it. However, I now have new gears front and rear, new brakes front and rear, new wheel bearings all the way around, new driveshaft u joints in the rear shaft, and new tie rod ends. I figure I probably did my last brake job on that truck that I will ever do. Most of us that say we spent 3-5k on a SAS are including new tires and rear diff gears. Both of those you already have so you dont have to worry about it. __________________ 93 ranger rock stock.

06-14-2007, 10:57 PM	#18
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	i checked into the 4.56 gears and kit for the front and my cost is 250...my mechanic will do everything for 120 or so...the only thing im waiting on is fly n hi to let me know if they have these items in there needing to sell inventory... i am going to put up my 89 f-250 xcab 5.8 auto, which is actually a 1 ton, for sale since gas is coming down and if it don't sell i have a donor for a 5.8 and tranny swap, grunt grunt as tim allen would say, lmao...if i sell it, it will give me play money for a sas perhaps and a aussie locker in the rear would be perfect.... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

06-18-2007, 09:03 PM	#19
sn0border88 Master Apprentice Souderton, PA 1992 XLT Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,342 Vehicle Specs	I had $1,700 in mine upon completion, but as I continue work it gets mroe and more every day. Now that im locked f/r, new r&p up front, all kinds of other stuff im at around 2.2k. Keep the one tons and 5.8 and use that for the swap. __________________ My Photos---Emily Rose---SAS Thread---My Mug 1992 4dr XLT. SAS'ed HPD44/9" 5.13's Locked F/R 36" SX 1999 4.0 5spd sport on 31" BFG Muds

06-18-2007, 09:17 PM	#20
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21,907 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	well, i never heard from fly n hi so i went to 4wheelparts and bought my 4.56 gears and aussie locker for the front...plus i found my double big gulp cup holder, lol, another story...anyways, i will be adding another aussie in the rear in a month or so i'm hoping so that will take care of the regear... i will be needing all info for parts for a SAS and i may start a new thread on that but, i am still interested and thanks snowborder... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here