My latest project: 1970 Dodge Dart 512 C.I. Bracket Racer

**RangerX** · 11-03-2008, 10:54 AM

That is

, Rick!

**IZwack** · 11-03-2008, 11:09 AM

Looks like a new amusement park ride

**Rick** · 11-03-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IZwack

Looks like a new amusement park ride

Good way to test the seat mounts and 5 way harness

**FROADER** · 11-03-2008, 12:01 PM

YES!! Vid of Char sitting in it while you spin!!

**Rick** · 11-15-2008, 05:42 PM

Installed the engine for the first time to make room for the headers and to fabricate mounts for the motor plate.

YouTube Video

**IZwack** · 11-15-2008, 08:21 PM

That's so clean!

**Rick** · 11-15-2008, 08:55 PM

If you don't mind cutting up the car, fenderwells are the way to go. There's no issues at all with fitting around steering, suspension, etc...

**Rick** · 11-22-2008, 05:35 PM

More progress...

**Turdle** · 11-22-2008, 06:05 PM

Wow-
I'll check to be sure but I think I just made a wet spot in my undies--

That is very nice looking stuff.

**BrooklynBay** · 11-22-2008, 06:40 PM

I see that the headers are going through the wheel base. How would this work out with the inner wheel base covers getting hot? The heat would also be near the tires.

**Rick** · 11-22-2008, 07:04 PM

I think you mean wheel wells?

If so, the wheel wells are made of steel, not plastic like on the new cars

You're also looking at a 2 dimensional photo which doesn't show the clearance around the tubes. They don't hit anywhere, and there is plenty of room.

You can see a mark on one of the header tubes from the tire rubbing against the primary tube at full lock. Turning radius is limited with these headers. However... the Hooker Super Competition headers have been run on this platform since the late '60s and are considered one of, if not the best off the shelf headers for the application.

Best part about the fenderwell headers is the amount of clearance you have around all your suspension components. Through the chassis headers are a nightmare with torsion bar suspensions, especially when you're running 2" primary tubes.

**BrooklynBay** · 11-22-2008, 07:12 PM

You are correct. I did mean the wheel well, and not the wheel base. I thought that the tires weren't on yet, so how did it make that mark on the header? If these headers have clearance issues, wouldn't it cause premature damage to the tires since they get very hot, and could burn a hole in the sidewall?

**Rick** · 11-22-2008, 07:29 PM

The sidewalls won't touch, it's the tread that contacts the tube. I bought the headers used, that's why the marks are already there. I plan on putting in steering limiters which will keep the tires from running into the tubes.

**BrooklynBay** · 11-22-2008, 07:47 PM

Maybe you could use header wrap (unless it will tear from the tire coming into contact with it? Would some sort of ceramic header coat paint be good for something like this?

**Turdle** · 11-22-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrooklynBay

Maybe you could use header wrap (unless it will tear from the tire coming into contact with it? Would some sort of ceramic header coat paint be good for something like this?

They appear to be ceramic coated already to me.

**BrooklynBay** · 11-22-2008, 07:55 PM

They look very shiny, and smooth. I thought that ceramic coating looks dark, and has a rough texture?

**section525** · 11-22-2008, 07:59 PM

No thread is safe.

Lookin good Rick. You should use those headers as the centerpiece on your table until the car is ready for them.

**RangerX** · 11-22-2008, 08:00 PM

You could alter the wheelbase a little like this...
Probably a lot of work, but I like that look.

**Rick** · 11-22-2008, 08:04 PM

That's got a solid front axle and leaf springs up front

Love the old school look, but not for me

As Jon said, the headers are already ceramic coated.

*spotter guy* · 11-24-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

More progress...

Rick that thing looks Gorgeous; Great Work. I bet you are happy to be working on the fun-side of the build finally......

11-03-2008, 10:54 AM	#221
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11-03-2008, 11:09 AM	#222
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,390 Vehicle Specs	Looks like a new amusement park ride __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

11-03-2008, 12:01 PM	#224
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11-15-2008, 08:21 PM	#226
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11-15-2008, 08:55 PM	#227
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,229 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	If you don't mind cutting up the car, fenderwells are the way to go. There's no issues at all with fitting around steering, suspension, etc... __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

11-22-2008, 05:35 PM	#228
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,229 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	More progress... __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

11-22-2008, 06:05 PM	#229
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,740 Vehicle Specs	Wow- I'll check to be sure but I think I just made a wet spot in my undies-- That is very nice looking stuff. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

11-22-2008, 06:40 PM	#230
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,678 Vehicle Specs	I see that the headers are going through the wheel base. How would this work out with the inner wheel base covers getting hot? The heat would also be near the tires. __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

11-22-2008, 07:04 PM	#231
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,229 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I think you mean wheel wells? If so, the wheel wells are made of steel, not plastic like on the new cars You're also looking at a 2 dimensional photo which doesn't show the clearance around the tubes. They don't hit anywhere, and there is plenty of room. You can see a mark on one of the header tubes from the tire rubbing against the primary tube at full lock. Turning radius is limited with these headers. However... the Hooker Super Competition headers have been run on this platform since the late '60s and are considered one of, if not the best off the shelf headers for the application. Best part about the fenderwell headers is the amount of clearance you have around all your suspension components. Through the chassis headers are a nightmare with torsion bar suspensions, especially when you're running 2" primary tubes. __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

11-22-2008, 07:12 PM	#232
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,678 Vehicle Specs	You are correct. I did mean the wheel well, and not the wheel base. I thought that the tires weren't on yet, so how did it make that mark on the header? If these headers have clearance issues, wouldn't it cause premature damage to the tires since they get very hot, and could burn a hole in the sidewall? __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

11-22-2008, 07:29 PM	#233
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,229 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	The sidewalls won't touch, it's the tread that contacts the tube. I bought the headers used, that's why the marks are already there. I plan on putting in steering limiters which will keep the tires from running into the tubes. __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually

11-22-2008, 07:47 PM	#234
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,678 Vehicle Specs	Maybe you could use header wrap (unless it will tear from the tire coming into contact with it? Would some sort of ceramic header coat paint be good for something like this? __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

11-22-2008, 07:55 PM	#236
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,678 Vehicle Specs	They look very shiny, and smooth. I thought that ceramic coating looks dark, and has a rough texture? __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

11-22-2008, 07:59 PM	#237
section525 sextion525 Red Bluff, Ca 1975 Ford Bronco 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 14,909 Vehicle Specs	No thread is safe. Lookin good Rick. You should use those headers as the centerpiece on your table until the car is ready for them. __________________ Support the Forum '13 3.5 Explorer '08 2.0 Focus '75 5.0 Bronco '04 6.0 Super Duty

11-22-2008, 08:00 PM	#238
RangerX Moderator Elite Ranger Omao, Kauai '93 Ranger XLT 4X4 Join Date: Jul 1999 Posts: 7,191 Vehicle Specs	You could alter the wheelbase a little like this... Probably a lot of work, but I like that look. Attached Images __________________ Bill Collins 93 Ranger XLT 4X4 "Beauty is only sheet metal deep."

11-22-2008, 08:04 PM	#239
Rick Admin Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona '93 XL Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 27,229 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	That's got a solid front axle and leaf springs up front Love the old school look, but not for me As Jon said, the headers are already ceramic coated. __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually