Your Stock Auto/Manual hub info - Ranger / 91-94 X

**Tbars4** · 03-31-2010, 05:32 PM

...If you use the Spicer kit as shown in the first post you can save yourself about $50 bucks...

...Both the auto and manual hubs use different tools to take them off...Just use a pair of channel locks and a small pick to remove the autohubs and be sure to get the socket for the manuals...

...This info can also be found in the links from the first post...

toughtruckin' · 03-31-2010, 05:49 PM

thanks.

i already got the old hubs and axle nuts off (im a dealership tech, so i can usually find a way to get stuff apart

). ill look around for that kit and hopefully be in business for the next event in may.

kidd13 · 05-06-2010, 04:30 AM

if anyone wanted a detailed write up and pics to go with it heres a link
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...to_hubswap.htm

polacas · 05-12-2010, 03:36 PM

I have a problem with my 94 xplorer limited, I just changed boths sides 4x4 cams and automatic locks that belonged to working 92 4x4 explorer. The problem seems on the passenger side when 4x4 is engaged a grinding noise comes out from there, everything is working ok, botton light, transfer ok. Transfer arm, is turning but not the passengers wheel and that noise is heard. Any Ideas??? Thank's for your comments

**Tbars4** · 05-15-2010, 09:26 AM

...Read the links in the first post...

...They have the answers to diagnose your problem...

WESTOFYOU · 10-14-2010, 01:10 AM

i have a few jobs to do on repairing ford exlporer brakes right now also ball joints so have done some work on these before any body have any ideas on a good way to replace ball joints 94 exp. 4x4 4 litre soc. explorer

thanks westofyou.

WESTOFYOU · 10-14-2010, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polacas

I have a problem with my 94 xplorer limited, I just changed boths sides 4x4 cams and automatic locks that belonged to working 92 4x4 explorer. The problem seems on the passenger side when 4x4 is engaged a grinding noise comes out from there, everything is working ok, botton light, transfer ok. Transfer arm, is turning but not the passengers wheel and that noise is heard. Any Ideas??? Thank's for your comments

WESTOFYOU · 10-14-2010, 01:50 AM

Are you sure that all of the parts in the lock hub are in right also the outer hub only goes on 1 way. A site i found is all data off a pulic libray site . Wheel end assy. Then wheel retainer, locking key,then cam assembly, then splined steel thrust washer then retaining ring then o-ring then hublock assembly, all have an o ring seal between the hublock and wheel hub to prevent contamination whenever hublock is removed the o ring seal should be checked for damage. If contamination is found in the wheel end the path must be determined and corrected. Path possiblities are thru the hublock seal or the axle spindle seals. Other way to determine if you get a popping banging noise when hubs are engaged see if something is broken or is slipping,put marks at various possible slipoints. Test drive the vehicle then see if the marks are in the same correlation to each other this could help find slipping or broken parts if any.try not to back up stop and check the marks see if they are in the same place. If you back up before checking your marks the hubs reindex and may not reveal a problem this is what the article says.

morgansleiviska · 10-15-2010, 02:16 PM

I just bought a 94 ranger. i was changing my tires for the winter and the manual locking hubs just came right off with the wheels. are they supposed to be secured somehow? also is it important that they are put back on in the same position that they were taken off? they seemed to slide back on just fine and my 4x4 seems to be working still, but i would like to avoid any problems in the future. i also notice as others have that the hubs snap into the free position, but don't seem to have any resistance going into the lock position. any info is appreciated. thank you!

**DeRocha** · 10-15-2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgansleiviska

I just bought a 94 ranger. i was changing my tires for the winter and the manual locking hubs just came right off with the wheels. are they supposed to be secured somehow? also is it important that they are put back on in the same position that they were taken off? they seemed to slide back on just fine and my 4x4 seems to be working still, but i would like to avoid any problems in the future. i also notice as others have that the hubs snap into the free position, but don't seem to have any resistance going into the lock position. any info is appreciated. thank you!

All is good.. the hubs both auto and manual are only held in position by the lug nuts (so they will slide right off). Autos need to be re-inserted so the plastic cam aligns to one of the indents within the hub.. Manuals just slip on and snug into the lock position and snap into the free position...

morgansleiviska · 10-16-2010, 04:37 PM

Thanks, i feel much better

sharonis3 · 11-16-2010, 04:33 PM

Hi Guys:

Have to put manuals hubs on my explorer. Just one question:

**Why do you have to swap to the spindle nut kit, why can't you keep the stock auto hub bearing retainer nut? How does the stock nut interfere with the manual hubs?? Just curious !!

Thanks in advance,

red.EDDIE.4x4 · 11-16-2010, 09:19 PM

well...now that you mention it i suppose you MIGHT be able to keep it. however, you should have another spindle nut backing it up and keeping it in place. otherwise it will back out on you, and you should eliminate that little retaining shim/pin that slides in the groove because its a pita to mess with on the trail.
just go ahead, spend the extra buck and switch to the 4 prong style manual spindle nuts and the lock washer between them.
its really not that much if you buy the mile maker one (its identical to the warn kit yet much cheaper last i checked)
if you skimp on your truck, it will skimp on you!

sharonis3 · 11-28-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharonis3

Hi Guys:

Have to put manuals hubs on my explorer. Just one question:

**Why do you have to swap to the spindle nut kit, why can't you keep the stock auto hub bearing retainer nut? How does the stock nut interfere with the manual hubs?? Just curious !!

Thanks in advance,

Just did the swap this weekend - I was curious why you needed a spindle nut kit for the manual hubs. Anyway, the manual hubs do interfere witht the big wheel bearing nut that mounts the cam for the automatic hubs. The manual hubs go almost all the way on, then they hit the automatic wheel bearing nut, with only an 1\8 to go.... So this makes sense, you do need a spindle nut kit to put the manual hubs on...

Easy job to make the switch...

hellcat · 12-13-2010, 05:44 PM

Is there a parts store that carries the kit ? All I can find is the $80.00 kit

**DeRocha** · 12-13-2010, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellcat

Is there a parts store that carries the kit ? All I can find is the $80.00 kit

Did you Try 4 wheel parts as mentioned in the 1st post?

4 Wheel parts Manual HUB kit

EskimoEddie · 12-14-2010, 07:00 AM

I swapped my autos for a set of Warn manuals and have had no issues at all, except one. I have the factory alloys and they fit fine over the hubs, BUT the steel spare tire does not!! Anyone else have the same issue?

Thanks!!

**Maniak** · 12-14-2010, 09:47 AM

I"ve heard of people running into this issue. I "think" it was caused by crap/corrosion etc on the inner ring of the rim. I don't remember seeing the issue on our '92, but I haven't put the spare on in > 5 years.

~Mark

**DeRocha** · 12-14-2010, 11:33 AM

I would agree with Mark... My old spare probably lost a 1/4" of diameter due to rust..

hellcat · 12-14-2010, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeRocha

Did you Try 4 wheel parts as mentioned in the 1st post?

4 Wheel parts Manual HUB kit

Yes I just wondered if there were a place that I could get the kit local.

03-31-2010, 05:32 PM	#81
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22,165 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	...If you use the Spicer kit as shown in the first post you can save yourself about $50 bucks... ...Both the auto and manual hubs use different tools to take them off...Just use a pair of channel locks and a small pick to remove the autohubs and be sure to get the socket for the manuals... ...This info can also be found in the links from the first post... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

05-15-2010, 09:26 AM	#85
Tbars4 Offroad Moderator anaheim hills,california 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22,165 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	...Read the links in the first post... ...They have the answers to diagnose your problem... __________________ I have Rocks in my head. What's in yours? '95 ranger xl 4x4 2.3L std cab, 2 sticks Ranger RegistryThe Squirrel '91 4x4=To much to list, much more to add.. Project "X" and more Pics & Mod's List How to: Wheels,Tires, & Lifts... Buy Explorerforum.com Items here

10-14-2010, 01:10 AM	#86
WESTOFYOU Wannabe Elite Explorer ohio 1994 exlporer xlt Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs	i have a few jobs to do on repairing ford exlporer brakes right now also ball joints so have done some work on these before any body have any ideas on a good way to replace ball joints 94 exp. 4x4 4 litre soc. explorerthanks westofyou.

10-15-2010, 02:16 PM	#89
morgansleiviska Wannabe Elite Explorer fairbanks,ak 94 ranger Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	Locking hubs popped right off with wheel I just bought a 94 ranger. i was changing my tires for the winter and the manual locking hubs just came right off with the wheels. are they supposed to be secured somehow? also is it important that they are put back on in the same position that they were taken off? they seemed to slide back on just fine and my 4x4 seems to be working still, but i would like to avoid any problems in the future. i also notice as others have that the hubs snap into the free position, but don't seem to have any resistance going into the lock position. any info is appreciated. thank you!

11-16-2010, 04:33 PM	#92
sharonis3 Wannabe Elite Explorer Fredericton, N.B. 91 XLT, 2002 Limited Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 17 Vehicle Specs	Why do you need a spindle nut kit when changing to manuals Hi Guys: Have to put manuals hubs on my explorer. Just one question: **Why do you have to swap to the spindle nut kit, why can't you keep the stock auto hub bearing retainer nut? How does the stock nut interfere with the manual hubs?? Just curious !! Thanks in advance,

03-31-2010, 05:49 PM	#82
toughtruckin' Wannabe Elite Explorer albany, ny 92 4 door Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11 Vehicle Specs	thanks. i already got the old hubs and axle nuts off (im a dealership tech, so i can usually find a way to get stuff apart ). ill look around for that kit and hopefully be in business for the next event in may.

05-06-2010, 04:30 AM	#83
kidd13 Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, Nevada '94 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 21 Vehicle Specs	if anyone wanted a detailed write up and pics to go with it heres a link http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...to_hubswap.htm

05-12-2010, 03:36 PM	#84
polacas Wannabe Elite Explorer 1994 4x4 Explorer limited Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	I have a problem with my 94 xplorer limited, I just changed boths sides 4x4 cams and automatic locks that belonged to working 92 4x4 explorer. The problem seems on the passenger side when 4x4 is engaged a grinding noise comes out from there, everything is working ok, botton light, transfer ok. Transfer arm, is turning but not the passengers wheel and that noise is heard. Any Ideas??? Thank's for your comments

10-14-2010, 01:50 AM	#88
WESTOFYOU Wannabe Elite Explorer ohio 1994 exlporer xlt Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs	Are you sure that all of the parts in the lock hub are in right also the outer hub only goes on 1 way. A site i found is all data off a pulic libray site . Wheel end assy. Then wheel retainer, locking key,then cam assembly, then splined steel thrust washer then retaining ring then o-ring then hublock assembly, all have an o ring seal between the hublock and wheel hub to prevent contamination whenever hublock is removed the o ring seal should be checked for damage. If contamination is found in the wheel end the path must be determined and corrected. Path possiblities are thru the hublock seal or the axle spindle seals. Other way to determine if you get a popping banging noise when hubs are engaged see if something is broken or is slipping,put marks at various possible slipoints. Test drive the vehicle then see if the marks are in the same correlation to each other this could help find slipping or broken parts if any.try not to back up stop and check the marks see if they are in the same place. If you back up before checking your marks the hubs reindex and may not reveal a problem this is what the article says.

10-16-2010, 04:37 PM	#91
morgansleiviska Wannabe Elite Explorer fairbanks,ak 94 ranger Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2 Vehicle Specs	Thanks, i feel much better

11-16-2010, 09:19 PM	#93
red.EDDIE.4x4 Wannabe Elite Explorer Tulsa, Oklahoma '93 Eddie Bauer 4x4 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 717 Vehicle Specs	well...now that you mention it i suppose you MIGHT be able to keep it. however, you should have another spindle nut backing it up and keeping it in place. otherwise it will back out on you, and you should eliminate that little retaining shim/pin that slides in the groove because its a pita to mess with on the trail. just go ahead, spend the extra buck and switch to the 4 prong style manual spindle nuts and the lock washer between them. its really not that much if you buy the mile maker one (its identical to the warn kit yet much cheaper last i checked) if you skimp on your truck, it will skimp on you! __________________ 1993 Eddie, 5.5 inch lift, 33's, 4.88s, cammed/bored 4.0, BW 1354M, few more power adders... custom manual conversion The Sploder long term 4G63 Turbo Fiero project

12-13-2010, 05:44 PM	#95
hellcat Wannabe Elite Explorer Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8 Vehicle Specs	4wheeldrive.com Is there a parts store that carries the kit ? All I can find is the $80.00 kit

12-14-2010, 07:00 AM	#97
EskimoEddie Wannabe Elite Explorer SW Maine 1994 Eddie Bauer EX Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Vehicle Specs	Minor question I swapped my autos for a set of Warn manuals and have had no issues at all, except one. I have the factory alloys and they fit fine over the hubs, BUT the steel spare tire does not!! Anyone else have the same issue? Thanks!!

12-14-2010, 09:47 AM	#98
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,813 Vehicle Specs	I"ve heard of people running into this issue. I "think" it was caused by crap/corrosion etc on the inner ring of the rim. I don't remember seeing the issue on our '92, but I haven't put the spare on in > 5 years. ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

12-14-2010, 11:33 AM	#99
DeRocha NEX Vice President Brockton, MA '93 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,637 Vehicle Specs	I would agree with Mark... My old spare probably lost a 1/4" of diameter due to rust.. __________________ John D-"Search first, Ask questions later" & "You can have my Explorer when you pry the keys from my cold dead hands." <<<Forum Rules >>>My Truck 4x4 Trouble Shooting Guide See how cars work Axle and tire calculators U-joint replacement info/pics Repair info NEX-New England Explorers NEX: Club Events