Quick Lift SUCKS

Donner · 01-12-2009, 11:39 PM

Tenneco's warranty staff is very nice, and professional... if you need to return the items, they'll tell you exactly what you need to do.

**IZwack** · 01-12-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donner

In this case, it does.

Do tell, how ?

TFCeddieB · 01-12-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Donner

Tenneco's warranty staff is very nice, and professional... if you need to return the items, they'll tell you exactly what you need to do.

I wonder if it matters that my boxes were all taped up for shipping, and subsequently were torn apart during opening. I hope not, because I think they're going to have to live with them being put into another box.

Donner · 01-12-2009, 11:52 PM

Well, for some reason the front wheel diameter and tire size are expected to be specific applications. I don't know why or what, but seeing that it took Rancho a couple of years to get a QL strut for the EX would suggest they couldn't really figure it out either... but they put the thing out there because everyone was asking for it, and for some it works fine, but for too many, the bunnyhop is what they get. If I had an answer or solution, I'd ask Tenneco for a cut in the profit

Donner · 01-12-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TFCeddieB

I wonder if it matters that my boxes were all taped up for shipping, and subsequently were torn apart during opening. I hope not, because I think they're going to have to live with them being put into another box.

(A shipper) boxed mine up in boxes from another brand strut... I had no problems. When you call, ask for Lou... she'll work out the details.

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Donner

(A shipper) boxed mine up in boxes from another brand strut... I had no problems. When you call, ask for Lou... she'll work out the details.

Thanks for all the help man. Hopefully I'll get this thing right eventually. It's 1AM here on the Eastern Shore, time for me to hit the hay.

Donner · 01-13-2009, 12:06 AM

Take care! You too IZ

**IZwack** · 01-13-2009, 12:12 AM

You too.
Gluck with the strut fellow Marylander!

Tylers02 · 01-13-2009, 12:13 AM

To somewhat answer your question IZwack

The ride is stiffer because of the fact the coil is being compressed more. The reason you can adjust coil-overs is beacuse you are simply compressing the spring and making it stiffer, which in turn lifts the vehicle. Compressing or cutting any coil spring is going to change the spring rate making it stiffer. If a spring was at a constant spring rate you would either A be riding your bump stops and snapping your springs from coil binding them, or B be bouncing all over the place because there so stiff. In theory road bully's spacers should effect the spring rate a little since there will be some compression of the spring, but it sounds like the way rancho engineered their "coil-overs" it compresses the spring WAY to much. If your set on being able to adjust your ride height I would give king or sway-away a call about some real coil-overs, that have a wide variety of spring rates avaliable. Im sure either company would be more than willing to design some for the 3rd gen(they just need to make a mounting adapter).

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IZwack

You too.
Gluck with the strut fellow Marylander!

Thanks! I'll find the thread and post a couple pics when I'm all done (AGAIN!)

*shadowless127* · 01-13-2009, 10:46 AM

Live and learn... Then get RB Spacers

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 11:00 AM

True... True... I guess if there was any good to come out of it, it would have to be that: A.) Rancho's Customer Service is A-1 quality. B.) Like Donner said before - the back QL's are good to go. C.) QL's are so expensive, I'll get my RB spacers, a new set of Rancho RSX's for the front, and have them put in for the price that Rancho is going to refund me for the front QL's. Just sucks that I have to deal with the bounce for 3 or 4 weeks while I wait for the RB's. Good thing I hardly drive this thing anyway.

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 11:03 AM

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TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 12:34 PM

On a better note, the doorbell just rang and my other toys came in anyhow. Eibach 30mm wheel spacers to put those rims right out to the edge of the wheel well where they belong!!

Tylers02 · 01-13-2009, 12:54 PM

Thats awesome to hear that Rancho stands by their product and are returning your money sight unseen(although im sure they are well aware of the problem). Goodluck with the rest of your build and im sure you will be more than satisfied with Road Bully's spacer, I will also be going that route when the time comes.

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 01:14 PM

AFTER... (QL front + rear), 30mm Eibach spacers (all 4 wheels)...

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 01:23 PM

409-Stainless Flowmaster, Eibach Wheel Spacer (Installed)

TFCeddieB · 01-13-2009, 01:27 PM

QL's front, rear... (It would not let me post them right side up)

*shadowless127* · 01-13-2009, 02:31 PM

looks nice with the QL, too bad the QL is a piece of sh*t. And I really gotta get my exhaust done lol.

hitithard · 01-14-2009, 05:00 PM

damn everybody be haten on the Ql

i guess im just one of the lucky ones who didnt go to the rodeo after the install

01-12-2009, 11:39 PM	#21
Donner Wannabe Elite Explorer Natomas/Irvine 01 Sp 03 XLT 4x4s, Scion Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,844 Vehicle Specs	Tenneco's warranty staff is very nice, and professional... if you need to return the items, they'll tell you exactly what you need to do. __________________ http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=240001 For Sale stuff

01-12-2009, 11:52 PM	#24
Donner Wannabe Elite Explorer Natomas/Irvine 01 Sp 03 XLT 4x4s, Scion Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,844 Vehicle Specs	Well, for some reason the front wheel diameter and tire size are expected to be specific applications. I don't know why or what, but seeing that it took Rancho a couple of years to get a QL strut for the EX would suggest they couldn't really figure it out either... but they put the thing out there because everyone was asking for it, and for some it works fine, but for too many, the bunnyhop is what they get. If I had an answer or solution, I'd ask Tenneco for a cut in the profit __________________ http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=240001 For Sale stuff

01-13-2009, 12:06 AM	#27
Donner Wannabe Elite Explorer Natomas/Irvine 01 Sp 03 XLT 4x4s, Scion Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,844 Vehicle Specs	Take care! You too IZ __________________ http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=240001 For Sale stuff

01-13-2009, 12:12 AM	#28
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,390 Vehicle Specs	You too. Gluck with the strut fellow Marylander! __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

01-13-2009, 12:13 AM	#29
Tylers02 Wannabe Elite Explorer Overland Park, KS 2002 Limited Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334 Vehicle Specs	To somewhat answer your question IZwack The ride is stiffer because of the fact the coil is being compressed more. The reason you can adjust coil-overs is beacuse you are simply compressing the spring and making it stiffer, which in turn lifts the vehicle. Compressing or cutting any coil spring is going to change the spring rate making it stiffer. If a spring was at a constant spring rate you would either A be riding your bump stops and snapping your springs from coil binding them, or B be bouncing all over the place because there so stiff. In theory road bully's spacers should effect the spring rate a little since there will be some compression of the spring, but it sounds like the way rancho engineered their "coil-overs" it compresses the spring WAY to much. If your set on being able to adjust your ride height I would give king or sway-away a call about some real coil-overs, that have a wide variety of spring rates avaliable. Im sure either company would be more than willing to design some for the 3rd gen(they just need to make a mounting adapter). Last edited by Tylers02; 01-13-2009 at 12:38 AM. Reason: spelling

01-13-2009, 11:00 AM	#32
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	True... True... I guess if there was any good to come out of it, it would have to be that: A.) Rancho's Customer Service is A-1 quality. B.) Like Donner said before - the back QL's are good to go. C.) QL's are so expensive, I'll get my RB spacers, a new set of Rancho RSX's for the front, and have them put in for the price that Rancho is going to refund me for the front QL's. Just sucks that I have to deal with the bounce for 3 or 4 weeks while I wait for the RB's. Good thing I hardly drive this thing anyway. __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff... Last edited by TFCeddieB; 01-13-2009 at 01:47 PM.

01-13-2009, 11:03 AM	#33
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	............................. __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff... Last edited by TFCeddieB; 01-13-2009 at 12:34 PM.

01-13-2009, 12:34 PM	#34
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	On a better note, the doorbell just rang and my other toys came in anyhow. Eibach 30mm wheel spacers to put those rims right out to the edge of the wheel well where they belong!! __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff...

01-13-2009, 12:54 PM	#35
Tylers02 Wannabe Elite Explorer Overland Park, KS 2002 Limited Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334 Vehicle Specs	Thats awesome to hear that Rancho stands by their product and are returning your money sight unseen(although im sure they are well aware of the problem). Goodluck with the rest of your build and im sure you will be more than satisfied with Road Bully's spacer, I will also be going that route when the time comes.

01-13-2009, 01:14 PM	#36
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Pics AFTER... (QL front + rear), 30mm Eibach spacers (all 4 wheels)... Attached Images __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff...

01-13-2009, 01:23 PM	#37
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	PICS - QL's 409-Stainless Flowmaster, Eibach Wheel Spacer (Installed) Attached Images __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff...

01-13-2009, 01:27 PM	#38
TFCeddieB Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern Shore, MD 2005 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 118 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	QL's front, rear... (It would not let me post them right side up) Attached Images __________________ '05 Eddie Bauer V8 built 10/04; 14,xxx Miles and slowly counting. BFG Mud Terrains, Rancho QL Rear, RB Front W/ Rancho RSX's, Powdercoated Stock Rims/Westin Skid Plate, a bunch of other stuff...

01-14-2009, 05:00 PM	#40
hitithard Wannabe Elite Explorer blue point, new york 2002 xlt Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 46 Vehicle Specs	damn everybody be haten on the Ql i guess im just one of the lucky ones who didnt go to the rodeo after the install __________________ 2002 xlt 3in bodylift, rancho quicklifts front n back,265/75/16 procomp mud terrains, procomp cast black rims,7 inch jvc touchscreen, triple kicker L7's, mtx 1500 watt rms amp,ks680 speakers, westin brushe guard n taillight guards surco rooftop cargo rack with lights