Ford Explorer Sport Trac Ford Ranger Mazda Navajo Mercury Mountaineer Message Board
Ford Explorer Sport Trac Ford Ranger Mazda Navajo Mercury Mountaineer Message Board - For Enthusiasts by Enthusiasts


Ford Explorer Generation Guide

2013 Ford Explorer Forums Elite Membership Chat Room My Posts Reviews Explorer Photo Gallery
Go Back   Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"® > Ford Explorer Ranger Repair - Troubleshooting - Modifications & Detailing Forums > Performance Lighting

Notices

Performance Lighting Aftermarket lighting. Driving lights, fog lights, rock lights, HID, halogen. Make your Ford Explorer light up the night!!

Cure for rapid flashing turn signals after installing LED light bulbs.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-16-2009, 08:45 PM   #1
BrooklynBay
Aerostar Forum Moderator
Brooklyn, NY
 
BrooklynBay's Avatar
88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 45,684

Vehicle Specs

(Original Poster)
Cure for rapid flashing turn signals after installing LED light bulbs.

LED light bulbs have higher resistance than ordinary incandescent light bulbs. This will cause a problem on most vehicles since ordinary thermal flashers, and even most modern electronic flashers are designed to cause the existing turn signal light bulb to flash at a higher rate. Sometimes this is referred to as "hyperblinking". This is intentionally done in order to indicate that the other bulb which is part of a set on one side is burned out. These flashers won't detect the LED bulbs, and will cause the light to always flash at a higher rate. One solution is to use high wattage resistors to shunt (attach in parallel) across the turn signal LED bulbs. This will simulate the existence of an incandescent bulb. The problems with this is set up are the resistors get very hot, and they have to be wired into place. The next solution which makes more sense, and is plug & play is to get a flasher designed specifically for LED bulbs. These relays are not usually available locally, but some online retail stores sell them such as http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/cg...m.0&oid=136565.
The relay is manufactured by a company called Grote, and the part number for most 3 prong Ford vehicles is 44892. An alternate name is Imperial, and the part number is 80112. This is what it looks like:

The flasher is a little deeper than an ordinary flasher, so you might have to leave the cover of your fuse box off. I installed this in a 2004 Taurus, and had to leave the cover off. These links have flashers with many pin configurations: http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...2Fflashers.htm
http://www.ledlight.com/electronic-l...sher-ep36.aspx
Here's another link: http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning...10389-1-3.html.

Last edited by BrooklynBay; 01-30-2010 at 09:25 PM.
BrooklynBay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2009, 08:04 AM   #2
torqlox
Cape Coral, FL
 
torqlox's Avatar
99' Mounty V8
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 181

Vehicle Specs

Very helpful. I am ordering mine today. Thanks!
torqlox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2009, 11:38 AM   #3
itallian1488
Brandon, FL
2006 Explorer XLT
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 82

Vehicle Specs

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynBay View Post
LED light bulbs have higher resistance than ordinary incandescent light bulbs. This will cause a problem on most vehicles since ordinary thermal flashers, and even most modern electronic flashers are designed to cause the existing turn signal light bulb to flash at a higher rate. Sometimes this is referred to as "hyperblinking". This is intentionally done in order to indicate that the other bulb which is part of a set on one side is burned out. These flashers won't detect the LED bulbs, and will cause the light to always flash at a higher rate. One solution is to use high wattage resistors to shunt (attach in parallel) across the turn signal LED bulbs. This will simulate the existence of an incandescent bulb. The problems with this is set up are the resistors get very hot, and they have to be wired into place. The next solution which makes more sense, and is plug & play is to get a flasher designed specifically for LED bulbs. These relays are not usually available locally, but some online retail stores sell them such as http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/cg...m.0&oid=136565.
The relay is manufactured by a company called Grote, and the part number for most 3 prong Ford vehicles is 44892. An alternate name is Imperial, and the part number is 80112. This is what it looks like:

The flasher is a little deeper than an ordinary flasher, so you might have to leave the cover of your fuse box off. I installed this in a 2004 Taurus, and had to leave the cover off.
Awesome post, I actually didn't know about this, I have a 2006 ford explorer and I'm not sure If I need the 2 or 3 prong flasher and where it actually plugs in on my ex...I know the fuse box under the hood but theres like 5 thins in there that could be the flasher I don't know which on is right to pull and replace.
itallian1488 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2009, 11:57 AM   #4
BrianDye
Elite Explorer
Michigan
 
BrianDye's Avatar
04 CV LX Sport
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,607

Vehicle Specs

Omg thank you thank you thank you for this, I had them in my 92, which use the taillights as the blinkers, and not only did my blinkers not flash (they would just turn on, without flashing, or flashing rapidly) but my RPMs were even higher, it wasnt shifting into last gear.

Mines a 92, and my buddies got a 93 or 94 and I put them in his, and his blinkers work the EXACT same as normal, so idk.

Bu till deff.keep this in mind for my 95, anyone know where the blinker relay is located?




__________________
'13 Dodge Charger RT
BrianDye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2009, 03:09 PM   #5
zerodevil
Anchorage, AK
2003 XLT V8.
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,331

Vehicle Specs

the flasher Clicks when its working(the sound your turn signal is from the relay(flasher)...just follow your ears...i might convert to a led flasher...but ive never had problems with my resisters.
zerodevil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 01:16 AM   #6
ExpoOn24s
Elite Explorer
Indianapolis
 
ExpoOn24s's Avatar
'03 XLT
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 720

Vehicle Specs

Yup you just need resistors!




__________________
L.E.D. Halo lights, HID headlights, and more for explorers/rangers!
FLASHTECH PATENT PENDING L.E.D. HALOS! Click below

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...21#post2327721
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...09#post2280509

Custom show-charger
2003 Exploder 4x4 on 24's, 4 12" HCCA, 5000D amp, Flashtech halos, HIDs, Grills, screens, more
1992 F250 4x4 w/ 351 Windsor Plow truck with 84k miles
ExpoOn24s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 03:44 PM   #7
Spyke
Boca Raton, FL
2002 Explorer Sport
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 22

Vehicle Specs

Not to bring up with an old thread but when I had red l.e.ds for turn signals I kinda liked the rapid flash. I know it usually is used to indicate that you have a blown bulb, but I was wondering does leaving it flash rapidly cause any issues?

-Spyke
Spyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2009, 07:09 PM   #8
BrooklynBay
Aerostar Forum Moderator
Brooklyn, NY
 
BrooklynBay's Avatar
88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 45,684

Vehicle Specs

(Original Poster)
Somebody once told me that when cops see a fast flasher, they assume that a bulb is out, and will try to issue a ticket.
BrooklynBay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2010, 07:27 PM   #9
stuartr
Richlands, VA
2002 Mercury Mountaineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 417

Vehicle Specs

Where can I get the resistors? I think that may be a cheaper fix. Also what size do I need. I put a set of leds in my wifes mounty and it is blinking like crazy! I thought they were supposed to have them built in. But guess not. So did I just waste my $$. I don't want to lay down another $20 for a flasher and don't want to leave the fuse cover off. So the resistors may be a fix. i guess they would wire in right at the bulb right. By parr. what do you mean? Been a long time since I done any wiring in my stereo days. I do remember how to wire a set of speakers parr.

STU




__________________
Mountianeer family I have a 2002 and she has a 2008. Both AWD V6.
stuartr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2010, 09:30 PM   #10
stuartr
Richlands, VA
2002 Mercury Mountaineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 417

Vehicle Specs

Ok I asked this over on the other board but where is the flasher at on a 08 mounty? I hear it but it sounds to be up behind the speedo in the dash area. I cant see it though. So any ideas?

STU




__________________
Mountianeer family I have a 2002 and she has a 2008. Both AWD V6.
stuartr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2010, 03:52 PM   #11
Blazepet7
Zombie Prepper
Queens, NYC
 
Blazepet7's Avatar
99' XLT 5.0
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 452

Vehicle Specs

So this will replace the resistors completely correct instead of hard wiring the resistors in this will plug and play, also spyke asked if it is damaging to either the bulbs or the wireing in the turn signals to leave it rapid flashing besides the popos busting your balls




__________________
99' 5.0 V8 XLT-FORD Red, Hella 500 Fogs,Pioneer AVIC D1 Navi, Sony DVD Player,TT/Shackles, AAL, Custom Rack lights, Rancho 5000's, LED Puddles, Custom Front Tow Hooks Many More Mods to Come
Blazepet7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2010, 04:33 PM   #12
BrooklynBay
Aerostar Forum Moderator
Brooklyn, NY
 
BrooklynBay's Avatar
88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 45,684

Vehicle Specs

(Original Poster)
I don't think that fast flashing will do any damage, but why suffer when there is a quick fix for this problem? The LED flasher will solve the problem without splicing resistors into the circuit.
BrooklynBay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2010, 03:28 AM   #13
stuartr
Richlands, VA
2002 Mercury Mountaineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 417

Vehicle Specs

Will the flasher also kill the bulb out displays that my 08 mounty gives with the LEDs in it also?

STU




__________________
Mountianeer family I have a 2002 and she has a 2008. Both AWD V6.
stuartr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2010, 08:36 PM   #14
Blazepet7
Zombie Prepper
Queens, NYC
 
Blazepet7's Avatar
99' XLT 5.0
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 452

Vehicle Specs

it should if it is supposively telling the computer that there is a bulb in there, but i also dont have an message board in my truck so i dont know for sure...thanks brooklyn no i agree if theres a quicker fix to the rapid flash other than splicing and finding the right wires then im all for that option...




__________________
99' 5.0 V8 XLT-FORD Red, Hella 500 Fogs,Pioneer AVIC D1 Navi, Sony DVD Player,TT/Shackles, AAL, Custom Rack lights, Rancho 5000's, LED Puddles, Custom Front Tow Hooks Many More Mods to Come
Blazepet7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 01:35 PM   #15
Saleen_SR71
San Jose, CA
'97 EB 5.0
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 898

Vehicle Specs

I would just like to say that I put led bulbs for the rear signals only... and needless to say an issue came up... eventually the clicking from signaling went back to normal speed, come to find out my rear signals no longer work, but the fronts do

I am hoping it is just the flasher because if its not I'm not going to be to happy about it.




__________________
My Ride
Saleen_SR71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2010, 06:18 PM   #16
Saleen_SR71
San Jose, CA
'97 EB 5.0
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 898

Vehicle Specs

Went to 3 places to get the flasher switch, only to end up at Ford finding that the 6-pin (what I had from factory) was the same as the 5-pin... bunch of bs especially with a 115% higher price than the store.

Come to find out nothing was wrong with the lights, some sort of fluke happened (possibly with the multi switch)




__________________
My Ride
Saleen_SR71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2010, 11:42 PM   #17
02V8Limited
Vancouver, BC
2002 Limited 4.6L
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 32

Vehicle Specs

Just a quick question... I have an 02 Limited, and I have a 5-prong flasher. What (if anything) would happen if I replace it with a 3-prong?
02V8Limited is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2010, 04:43 PM   #18
itallian1488
Brandon, FL
2006 Explorer XLT
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 82

Vehicle Specs

http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning...-p4783296.html

this is what I wired to my 06 expo to get my switchback led turn signals to work properly
itallian1488 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 06:56 PM   #19
Splint333
Texas
'99 XLT
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 36

Vehicle Specs

Thanks for this!

Last edited by Splint333; 08-05-2011 at 10:54 PM.
Splint333 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 08:50 PM   #20
dersch6221992
Elite Explorer
Lansing, Michigan
 
dersch6221992's Avatar
2000 mounty
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 461

Vehicle Specs

okay so i bought this where does it go? cause from reading the forums they say its actually a yellow plug under the steering wheel? im confused where this thing goes. 2000 mountaineer




__________________
2000 Mountaineer V8 AWD. 5.0L. Zombie Response Team ZAPV #18. ZAPV #865 (My Quad)
TT twist/ warrior shackles & AAL. K&N air filter. 32x11.5x15 CB radio. Bedliner. Custom emblems in lime green.
Dersch's Elite Registry!
Michigan Run Planning Thread
dersch6221992 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Suggest this thread to friends:



Join the "Elite Explorers" Today!



Search Explorer Forum


Top of Page

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 PM.



US Flag
We Support Our Troops!

Explore the site!


Copyright 2013 - 1996 Rick Horwitz Photography



This site is not endorsed or affiliated

with the Ford Motor Company in any way.



All tips on this site are for use at your own risk and discretion.

Modifying the suspension on any vehicle will cause changes to its handling characteristics.



Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.