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- Year, Model & Trim Level
- 95 ranger 4x4/ 91 X 4x4
...Save yourself some head aches and do not attempt to put ends on cables, but instead, replace the whole cable...The cables commonly corrode inside the sheathing....
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...Click, click, click...
..This is a good read if you think it may be the starter or need to figure out what it might be..It gets really interesting on page 2..
Starter Hell
...(This is good for all vehicles)..If you are hearing this when you try to start your vehicle, the following info may be of some help..
...It could be your starter or fender relay. (Common cause of click, click, click/ see pics below)
...Batteries and cables are often overlooked...
...First and foremost, if the battery does not have 12.1 volts anytime before starting, it will effect the starter and a no start condition may/will occur. If the battery drops down into the upper 10 volt or lower during cranking, your battery cranking power is shot and you need a new battery...Starter warranties and install information usually have this info included with them..
...You can also test voltage at your starter for 12.1 volts while someone turns the key to the start position and try to start, before you get the new cables...
...I too fell victim to this same problem with a new battery, fender relay, new cables and starter, click click click...
'95 xl reg cab 4x4 5 speed 2.3l
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...I had to just verify with napaonline.com since the 91 and 94 X are similar but different..
Positive cable Item#: CBL717993
...Negative cable Item#: CBL717991
Note: There is a problem on the wording of the negative cable on that link (it says positive)...Those are the exact items for my 91 and they show for the 94 also, so it's good info..After searching for mine, those were the BEST cables I have found to date..:biggthump
..Negative Cable Routing...
...This is where it comes down from the negative post to the frame...It then goes to the motor above the starter..
..This picture shows where the negative cable ends and mounts to the block on the passenger side...
...Positive Cable routing...
...I have received several pm's on how to swap the positive cable so I hope this information will help those swapping in new cables...I needed to get this cable on before I swap in the new optima and Ballistic battery box...
...Before everyone ask, the item with the green knob is a battery quick disconnect ($3) which comes in handy while working on the vehicle, in case of a roll over, vehicle storage, and makes clearing the computer memory a breeze......Caution should be used when installing one of these...Note the close proximity to the starter fender relay...
...The new cable right out of the box...
...Cable routing...
...This shows the routing of all the positive cables from the positive post...
...The positive cable then runs along the frame rail...(shown here above the negative cable...)
..This picture shows where the cable comes down below the passenger side frame rail and makes the turn to the drivers side toward the starter...
...There are 2 cable holders for the positive cable...One is located by where the negative cable terminates at the block and the second one is located at the bottom of the tranny bellhousing by the starter..These are easily pried open and then pinched closed with a pair of channel locks..
...Pried open and cable shown pulled out...
..This picture shows the hard plastic rock/heat shield found on the positive cable, (looking from the front drivers side back)..This is a very important item which protects the cable not only from rocks and the elements but also keeps the cable from being cooked by the exhaust and should not be disguarded..
...This picture shows the rock/heat guard re-installed looking from the transmission forward...
...I did cut the cables to inspect them and there wasn't as much corrosion as expected...You will probably find more corrosion on your cables though..
...Starter Fender Relay..
..This is the original 3 post starter fender relay...
...For those who purchase a new fender relay just to get home and find that they gave you a 4 post relay, no worry...It is common for stores to send you home with either a 3 or 4 post relay...This is a comparison of the two...If you do come home with a 4 post relay, you just don't use the post marked "I"...
...This pic shows the starter relay finished with all wires connected...
...A close up pic of the fender relay all wired up...The left side wire is coming from the battery while the right side wire is going to the starter...The ignition wire is on top..
...Starter connections...
...I just replaced the starter with a high torque starter on the X and it came with a pigtail to replace the pin connection that the old starter had and the new starter does not have...This is not a great picture but it shows the difference of the two positive cables and their connections for the starter..Minus the heat shrink of course...
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...Click, click, click...
..This is a good read if you think it may be the starter or need to figure out what it might be..It gets really interesting on page 2..
Starter Hell
...(This is good for all vehicles)..If you are hearing this when you try to start your vehicle, the following info may be of some help..
...It could be your starter or fender relay. (Common cause of click, click, click/ see pics below)
...Batteries and cables are often overlooked...
...First and foremost, if the battery does not have 12.1 volts anytime before starting, it will effect the starter and a no start condition may/will occur. If the battery drops down into the upper 10 volt or lower during cranking, your battery cranking power is shot and you need a new battery...Starter warranties and install information usually have this info included with them..
...You can also test voltage at your starter for 12.1 volts while someone turns the key to the start position and try to start, before you get the new cables...
...I too fell victim to this same problem with a new battery, fender relay, new cables and starter, click click click...
'95 xl reg cab 4x4 5 speed 2.3l
_________________________________________________________________________________
...I had to just verify with napaonline.com since the 91 and 94 X are similar but different..
Positive cable Item#: CBL717993
...Negative cable Item#: CBL717991
Note: There is a problem on the wording of the negative cable on that link (it says positive)...Those are the exact items for my 91 and they show for the 94 also, so it's good info..After searching for mine, those were the BEST cables I have found to date..:biggthump
..Negative Cable Routing...
...This is where it comes down from the negative post to the frame...It then goes to the motor above the starter..
..This picture shows where the negative cable ends and mounts to the block on the passenger side...
...Positive Cable routing...
...I have received several pm's on how to swap the positive cable so I hope this information will help those swapping in new cables...I needed to get this cable on before I swap in the new optima and Ballistic battery box...
...Before everyone ask, the item with the green knob is a battery quick disconnect ($3) which comes in handy while working on the vehicle, in case of a roll over, vehicle storage, and makes clearing the computer memory a breeze...
...Caution should be used when installing one of these...Note the close proximity to the starter fender relay... ...The new cable right out of the box...
...Cable routing...
...This shows the routing of all the positive cables from the positive post...
...The positive cable then runs along the frame rail...(shown here above the negative cable...)
..This picture shows where the cable comes down below the passenger side frame rail and makes the turn to the drivers side toward the starter...
...There are 2 cable holders for the positive cable...One is located by where the negative cable terminates at the block and the second one is located at the bottom of the tranny bellhousing by the starter..These are easily pried open and then pinched closed with a pair of channel locks..
...Pried open and cable shown pulled out...
..This picture shows the hard plastic rock/heat shield found on the positive cable, (looking from the front drivers side back)..This is a very important item which protects the cable not only from rocks and the elements but also keeps the cable from being cooked by the exhaust and should not be disguarded..
...This picture shows the rock/heat guard re-installed looking from the transmission forward...
...I did cut the cables to inspect them and there wasn't as much corrosion as expected...You will probably find more corrosion on your cables though..
...Starter Fender Relay..
..This is the original 3 post starter fender relay...
...For those who purchase a new fender relay just to get home and find that they gave you a 4 post relay, no worry...It is common for stores to send you home with either a 3 or 4 post relay...This is a comparison of the two...If you do come home with a 4 post relay, you just don't use the post marked "I"...
...This pic shows the starter relay finished with all wires connected...
...A close up pic of the fender relay all wired up...The left side wire is coming from the battery while the right side wire is going to the starter...The ignition wire is on top..
...Starter connections...
...I just replaced the starter with a high torque starter on the X and it came with a pigtail to replace the pin connection that the old starter had and the new starter does not have...This is not a great picture but it shows the difference of the two positive cables and their connections for the starter..Minus the heat shrink of course...
