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#261 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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You would be well advised to have them score or cut into the outer race, to weaken it before trying to press it out, if it doesnt want to come out. At least one member broke the spindle with the press. Those outer bearings are really stuck in there! I believe they may have used loctite for bearing races from the factory.
Also, be careful how you support the spindle in the press. Don't put too much stress on the arms of the spindle. Keep the support near the middle around the bearing. And read carefully about how to press the new bearing in!! __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#262 | |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
West Palm Beach, FL
'02 XLT Flex Fuel 4x4
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Where i use to live i was spoiled and had a buddy who was a Ford tech, so $100 and he'd do the whole job for me in an hour. So now its my turn - and yes this is #7 on my RR! __________________ 2002 XLT 4x4 4.0 Flex, 115K miles |
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#263 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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#7 on my RR??
The parking brake cable attaches thru a hole in the spindle, and spreads the brake shoes apart when applied. As long as the parking brake cable is still there, I would return that system back to stock. Chances are that the prior owner just didn't know what he was doing, got frustrated trying to put the brakes back on, and gave up. Now's your chance to fix that. The parking brake system is comprised of the parking brake cable, the backing plate, the shoes, the hardware kit (springs and holddown hardware, and the self-adjuster), the rotor (which acts like a drum on the inside), and that's about all I can remember. If you have the cable still on the vehicle, and you have the backing plate, then all you're really missing is the shoes and the hardware kit. Even if you didnt' put the parking brake stuff back on, you should retain the backing plate so that they can be fixed in the future. Otherwise, you would have to reinstall a new bearing, or cut the backing plate in half to fix it. Just remember to put the backing plate on (as a whole) before you press the bearing back in. __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#264 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Ryot, PA
'02 4.6 4x4 XLT
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Just completed this repair today
Thanks to everyone who posted their experiences, it helped me quite a bit in looking for possible trouble spots and to confirm the tools needed. I completed a change of my RR bearing this morning... took 2.5 hours including a trip to the hardware store for more antiseize because my bottle was empty. The hardest part was finding something just the right size to press out the outer race because the inners fell out. That took about an hour. Thankfully everything else came apart and went back together rather easily.. this vehicle was originally from North Carolina so it doesn't have the usual PA rusty components.
FWIW, Advance Auto has National bearings for $56 + tax. Online Amazon has Timken for $58.20 free shipping, but the difference wasn't worth the wait. Everyone else around here had the no-name bearings for more money! |
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#265 | |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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And what did you find to use to press out the outer race? __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#266 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Ryot, PA
'02 4.6 4x4 XLT
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The price was just for the bearing, a National 516008.. And I need to correct myself a just little.... $56.99 + tax = $60.41. I reused the hub and snap ring.
Timing wise, it helps to have done something similar before.... just changed two of bearings about 4 months ago in the front of the wifey's Focus. And I have a 40 ton press in the shop, so no running for one of those. As for the tool to press it out, I ended up finding and using a large 2 3/16", 3/4" drive socket. Whatever you use, it needs to be about 3" in diameter and fairly heavy to handle the load of the pressing action. The gauge on my press showed the peak pressure to be 12 ton. Not sure how accurate it is, though! I drove it a bit this evening... still can't believe how much quieter it is with this changed! Thanks again to those who posted before me, the pictures and experienced helped quicken my pace and make the experience easy!
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#267 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
2002 ford explorer Ltd
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My bearing was seized on the rear passenger side had a hard time just pulling the hub off the axle spindle. Thank goodness I had a big impact gun to use on the hub puller for some serious torque.
Machine shop guy had a hard time pressing the hub off too, said he had to cut the hub off. This forum made the job go so smooth with all the tips I took the advice to torque axle nut at 175 rather then 203 seems a little much. My Explorer sounds so quiet now almost like it was when new. |
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#268 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Fl
2003 explorer lmtd
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can this work
tackling job this weekend
can i press out the bearing like the video below uses? can i also press the bearing the same way? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4PK1jXhppE |
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#269 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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Nope, that wont work. Although you may find that FWD bearing puller to be helpful. You need a 35mm socket, 250 ft lb 1/2 drive torque wrench, hub puller, mini sledge, and pull the hub off and bust the bearings out. Then score the race quite a lot, and then take the spindle to the machine shop anx let them press out the race and press in the new bearing. Use a quality bearing... your life depends on it. Youll need a headlight adjusting tool (spring puller) to get the ebrakes off. The axle is held in by a circlip, if you decide to replace the axle seals while youre in there. Read the thread.
Remove the big snap ring before trying to press out the bearing race! You wont believe how hard that race is in there. A 20 ton press wouldnt budge mine. A larger press will simply break the spindle. Also dont support the spindle by its ears in the press. And put the backing plate on before pressing in the hub. __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#270 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Fl
2003 explorer lmtd
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
KCMO
'02 Mountaineer AWD V8
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I inquired about the hub grappler from OTC long time ago and their tech confirmed that it could do ford trucks. Since the price is so expensive, buying a press or having the shop press it for you make sense economically (unless you replace hubs/bearings every year or use it for a business) Reviews on amazon are not that stellar either. Hopefully somebody on this thread might be interested and share the review. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLge25pUQI ----------------------------------------------------------- MY MOUNTY http://www.facebook.com/diyfordexplorer?sk=photos |
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#272 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Columbus,OH
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I tackled this last friday after work..I have a press and torches/goodies at the shop...
took a grinder to the end of the axleshaft so my 1 3/8 socket would get a good grip..(took about 1/4 in off the end of the non-threaded section).. heated the bolts to get them all off...left the ebrake still connected just used a shim block to support the bearing receiver... scored the bearing races before I even tried to press them out...it went in and out like butter!! total took me 3hrs of not rushing!! just ordered the other ones to do over the next few weeks... Thanks for all the tech info guys!!!
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Alaska
'94 XLT & 2002 XLT
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Now that you've done the one side, the other will be even simpler and less time consuming. |
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#274 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Fl
2003 explorer lmtd
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Need help everything disconnected
unable to get Hub off with hub puller |
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#275 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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The rear hub doesn't come off with a puller. The puller simply pushes the axle inward, pressing it out of the hub and toward the rear end. The spindle has to be loose and ready to swing out of the way as you press the axle inward with the hub puller. Otherwise, you're just trying to compress the axle joints.
The axle hub is pressed into a rear axle bearing. The axle bearing is pressed into the spindle from the back side, and retained by a snap ring. The CV axle just slides into the back side of the hub, and pokes out where you can put the nut onto it. The axle isn't really held into the hub by anything other than maybe time, dirt and corrosion. Once the spindle can swing freely, you use the hub puller to force the axle to break free from the hub, and slightly push it out the back side. Once it's broke free, it should come out pretty easy. __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#276 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Fl
2003 explorer lmtd
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Thanks but no good had everything disconnected per Tyler92 post
Everything was easy until attaching hub tool (same as Tyler hub puller/pusher) Would not push the axle out of hub . Might have to take it to the STealership. |
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#277 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Florida
03 Eddie Bauer 4WD V8
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There's nothing holding the CV axleshaft end into the hub, except a little friction from dirt, wear, and galling. Spray it with PB blaster, and crank down on the hub puller centerbolt. The hub puller provides mechanical leverage pushing directly in the middle of the axle shaft. No reason that wouldn't work, if the spindle is allowed to swing loose as the axle drives inward.
You do have the axle nut removed, right? Whatever you do, don't beat on the axle shaft. And make sure your hub puller's centerbolt is centered on the axle shaft. It's acting like a press, you almost can't lose. If you have to, upload pics. __________________ EFI Tuner SCT Dealer and Certified Tuner |
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#278 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Fl
2003 explorer lmtd
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Thank you pontisteve tried everything put it all back together and took it to local mechanic. They too had a hard time removing hub. Off to dealer hopefully they could break it.
Wiil keep you guys posted |
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#279 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Alaska
'94 XLT & 2002 XLT
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I'd crank down on that hub puller and then rap a tap tap with a hammer on the end of the hub puller bolt in the effort to allow the vibrations to break the corrosion bond that's holding the axle shaft tight. That'll usually break'em free unless somebody welded the axle in there (kidding on the weld). Gotta put a hefty amount of torque on that hub puller bolt.
I'm quite surprised it didn't pop the axle shaft outta there. |
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#280 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Central Wi
2004 Ranger
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Thank you
It looks like you did this a while back but I sure did appreciate it, so much so I became a member to be able to log in and thank you for the time and effort to make this post. I just did my daughters 02 explorer and your post was more than extremely helpful.
By your hard work to put this together I was able to complete the drivers side wheel bearing in about 5.5 hours. I would probably still be working on it if not for your help. Thank you again,,,,,,,,,, a few years later,,,,,,,,,,,, yes your post has a lasting affect. Great job! Gary |
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