Colorado GROSS POLLUTER

**Rick** · 10-09-2009, 10:50 AM

Arizona was the first state to use the system about 10 years ago or so... People (like me) were turning off their engines and gliding past the mobile setups. We called them "smog dogs". They didn't last too long. After a couple years the state got rid of them and started littering our highways with photo speed cameras instead.

Gotta love big brother!!

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Envirotest is a private company here in CO, they run all the emissions stations, they are democratic supporters, they keep winning the gov BID for CO without even having any competition. Your tax dollars at work people!

This works both ways. The Republican state legislator who pushed for our original state emissions testing program and got it passed, quit his job with the legislature and took a job with the private company that does the emissions testing... Our state legislature has been controlled by Republicans for over 30 years. They have no problem at all with things like this, and our photo speed cameras. Freedom is for the other guy...

*Scott B.* · 10-09-2009, 10:54 AM

Who're you calling a hypocrite? Did you win a Nobel Peace prize?

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 10:54 AM

NY just spent like 450 million for big brother camera's, its all because of the new terrorist threat......makes you wonder if there actually was a threat, or just a bunch of politicians wanting to take their cut and spendthe $$$ for more power and control

I am sure the camera's are a real bargain and the whole system has no frivilous spending in it at all... in London I hear there are more then 1 million camera's?? wow

they can track your license plates, your face, everything and they package it so the people are like "yeah! I love it, I feel so safe!"

Rick where is that thread you did about the desert destruction in AZ? I am always mentioning it to my friends and family..I should keep it in my favorites

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 10:57 AM

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Who're you calling a hypocrite? Did you win a Nobel Peace prize?

Maybe in 2009 we can give one to Michael Moore for his amazing work

I cant believe we are actually debating evils of Capitalism vs wonder of Socialism in this country....History teaches us one thing =
we dont learn from our history

every empire falls, scary stuff, and it seems we are overdue? Man for one I hope not to see that happen, this nation is split right down the middle

*Scott B.* · 10-09-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 410Fortune

I cant believe we are actually debating Capitalism vs Socialism in this country....

I know - scary, isn't it?

*Scott B.* · 10-09-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 410Fortune

... in London I hear there are more then 1 million camera's?? wow

they can track your license plates, your face, everything and they package it so the people are like "yeah! I love it, I feel so safe!"
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And what is the crime rate in London? You are safer in Chicago than London.

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 10:59 AM

man when I am in Chicago for meetings, I stay in the hotel at night, Chi town is not exactly Colorado white boy friendly LOL

I wonder why the Olympics didnt go there? I know Brazil is not exactly murder free, but Chicago? I LMAO @ Obama & Oprah on that one

**Rick** · 10-09-2009, 11:06 AM

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Rick where is that thread you did about the desert destruction in AZ? I am always mentioning it to my friends and family..I should keep it in my favorites

Not sure which thread you are referring too. What was the gist of the story?

**Rick** · 10-09-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 410Fortune

man when I am in Chicago for meetings, I stay in the hotel at night, Chi town is not exactly Colorado white boy friendly LOL

I wonder why the Olympics didnt go there? I know Brazil is not exactly murder free, but Chicago? I LMAO @ Obama & Oprah on that one

I have two elderly cousins who live in downtown Chicago and they walk everywhere they go, day and night. Neither has ever found the need to own a vehicle since they have such good public transportation. Neither has been mugged and they love living in the city.

Are there horrible neighborhoods in Chicago? Sure, but I remember when I lived in Denver back in '80-'81 there were some neighborhoods which I wouldn't consider walking through either. Same way in any big city.

kert0307 · 10-09-2009, 11:13 AM

That's why I like Iowa, no emissions or vehicle inspections...

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 11:18 AM

Rick I was joking a bit, I know many architects in Chicago, huge bar scene, lots of nightlife, wonderful restaurants, sports city, the El train, etc its a great downtown, awesome buildings, I ride the El when we are there too...

Downtown denver has really cleaned up its act too, I even feel safe in London, but I dont go looking for trouble or walk down dark alleys I just prefer to be camping in the mountains rather then walk around downtown at night, I am tool old for that now LOL

The bad neighborhoods are in North and South Denver, they are even moving closer to my house every day, but downtown is pretty dang nice these days, the old 5 points area is now all rehabbed and full of drunk frat and sorority morons every weekend

You did a photo journal of the destruction being created by the housing developments vs the complaints they use to close our open space... i am 99% sure those were your photos, but it may have been linked by you

*toypaseo* · 10-09-2009, 11:33 AM

They are starting the emissions tests back up in Larimer county.

I was told to plan to spend the whole day there, since the techs pry will be new and not know much, and there will be TONS of people there trying to get it done.

Explorer pry will pass, since it is pretty much stock. Paseo pry not pass since the motor has 200K+ miles on it.

So, when my plates are due after they start that, I'll pry just avoid the drama

, and plate back in WY again...

ExploringNC · 10-09-2009, 11:40 AM

Sorry for all your troubles that sounds like a mess to have to deal with. We have inspections but no smog test. All I gotta do is take my '91 with gutted cats and hole in muffler to any local shop looking for work and I'm in and out with no questions asked. I no I no I'm one of the bad guys that the smog nazi's hate but it burns very clean and it's not my DD.

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 12:23 PM

dang Obama got the Nobel prize... amazing
hes so deserving!

*techieman33* · 10-09-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 410Fortune

dang Obama got the Nobel prize... amazing
hes so deserving!

what a joke

*Joe Dirt* · 10-09-2009, 12:39 PM

The beauty of that award is that he was nominated in February- 12 days after he took office, based on things he said he was going to do.

Sorry- but that just makes me laugh. What a crock. LOL!

410Fortune · 10-09-2009, 12:57 PM

you mean like close Gitmo and withdraw from Iraq? Also no new taxes?
We are not after your guns
You can keep your insurance
the stimulus is working
no earmarks or pork spending
Oh those small thingys

Kriegen · 10-09-2009, 01:07 PM

Here in Alabama, so long as you can walk into the probate office with a bill of sale, you can register your car. I know there are laws here regarding emissions and having all of the proper equipment on a vehicle but it's never enforced or checked. I see at least one or two different cars every day with a permanent sea-foam cloud.

**Dannyboy** · 10-09-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kriegen

Here in Alabama, so long as you can walk into the probate office with a bill of sale, you can register your car. I know there are laws here regarding emissions and having all of the proper equipment on a vehicle but it's never enforced or checked. I see at least one or two different cars every day with a permanent sea-foam cloud.

and that is why death traps like this are street legal in that state.

Kriegen · 10-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Unfortunately true. I would be quite happy with a sane medium between the non-enforced standards in Alabama and the nazi-enforced standards in CA.

10-09-2009, 10:54 AM	#22
Scott B. Elite Ranger GA '93 Ranger XLT, 06 FX4 L2 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 2,457 Vehicle Specs	Who're you calling a hypocrite? Did you win a Nobel Peace prize? __________________ Scott NRA Life Member EMT-I, UFWDA Chief Instructor 1993 Ranger XLT V8, Modified 2006 Ranger FX4 Level II, Modified

10-09-2009, 10:54 AM	#23
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	NY just spent like 450 million for big brother camera's, its all because of the new terrorist threat......makes you wonder if there actually was a threat, or just a bunch of politicians wanting to take their cut and spendthe $$$ for more power and control I am sure the camera's are a real bargain and the whole system has no frivilous spending in it at all... in London I hear there are more then 1 million camera's?? wow they can track your license plates, your face, everything and they package it so the people are like "yeah! I love it, I feel so safe!" Rick where is that thread you did about the desert destruction in AZ? I am always mentioning it to my friends and family..I should keep it in my favorites __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-09-2009, 10:59 AM	#27
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	man when I am in Chicago for meetings, I stay in the hotel at night, Chi town is not exactly Colorado white boy friendly LOL I wonder why the Olympics didnt go there? I know Brazil is not exactly murder free, but Chicago? I LMAO @ Obama & Oprah on that one __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-09-2009, 11:13 AM	#30
kert0307 Wannabe Elite Explorer Pella, Iowa '00 Sport and '89 B2 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,506 Vehicle Specs	That's why I like Iowa, no emissions or vehicle inspections... __________________ ____________________ 89' B2 -Sold 00' Explorer Sport - Sold 05' F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel Clicky tow rig/DD 2011 Ford Edge - Wife's DD 1978 Glastron CVX16 Project Boat

10-09-2009, 11:18 AM	#31
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Rick I was joking a bit, I know many architects in Chicago, huge bar scene, lots of nightlife, wonderful restaurants, sports city, the El train, etc its a great downtown, awesome buildings, I ride the El when we are there too... Downtown denver has really cleaned up its act too, I even feel safe in London, but I dont go looking for trouble or walk down dark alleys I just prefer to be camping in the mountains rather then walk around downtown at night, I am tool old for that now LOL The bad neighborhoods are in North and South Denver, they are even moving closer to my house every day, but downtown is pretty dang nice these days, the old 5 points area is now all rehabbed and full of drunk frat and sorority morons every weekend You did a photo journal of the destruction being created by the housing developments vs the complaints they use to close our open space... i am 99% sure those were your photos, but it may have been linked by you __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-09-2009, 11:33 AM	#32
toypaseo Flunked daycare outside shovelling snow ................ 96 XLT ™ Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,306 Vehicle Specs	They are starting the emissions tests back up in Larimer county. I was told to plan to spend the whole day there, since the techs pry will be new and not know much, and there will be TONS of people there trying to get it done. Explorer pry will pass, since it is pretty much stock. Paseo pry not pass since the motor has 200K+ miles on it. So, when my plates are due after they start that, I'll pry just avoid the drama , and plate back in WY again... __________________ Kent - 1996 XLT - Hypertech Programmer, Gibson Catback, K&N FIPK, Alpine V12 MRV-100M, 8" round 2ohm Kicker Solobaric 1992 Toyota Paseo - Tein Super Street coilovers, Whiteline swaybars 22MM(F) 20MM(R), Prothane endlinks & mounts, VVR poly control arm bushings, K&N drop-in, Dynomax Ultraflo, Gibson stainless tip, Pirelli Winter Carving Edge(F) Kumho HP4 716(R) on steelies

10-09-2009, 11:40 AM	#33
ExploringNC Wannabe Elite Explorer Hickory, NC '98 XLT, '91 EB Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,087 Vehicle Specs	Sorry for all your troubles that sounds like a mess to have to deal with. We have inspections but no smog test. All I gotta do is take my '91 with gutted cats and hole in muffler to any local shop looking for work and I'm in and out with no questions asked. I no I no I'm one of the bad guys that the smog nazi's hate but it burns very clean and it's not my DD. __________________ '91 EB 4.0 OHV 4x4 31x10.5 Maxxis Bighorn's Uwharrie 2010 BrooklynBay's List of Useful Threads

10-09-2009, 12:23 PM	#34
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	dang Obama got the Nobel prize... amazing hes so deserving! __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-09-2009, 12:57 PM	#37
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	you mean like close Gitmo and withdraw from Iraq? Also no new taxes? We are not after your guns You can keep your insurance the stimulus is working no earmarks or pork spending Oh those small thingys __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

10-09-2009, 01:07 PM	#38
Kriegen Wannabe Elite Explorer Montgomery, AL 1999 Mounty 5.0L AWD Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 246 Vehicle Specs	Here in Alabama, so long as you can walk into the probate office with a bill of sale, you can register your car. I know there are laws here regarding emissions and having all of the proper equipment on a vehicle but it's never enforced or checked. I see at least one or two different cars every day with a permanent sea-foam cloud. __________________ Charles 1999 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0L AWD Stock ~190K miles

10-09-2009, 01:40 PM	#40
Kriegen Wannabe Elite Explorer Montgomery, AL 1999 Mounty 5.0L AWD Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 246 Vehicle Specs	Unfortunately true. I would be quite happy with a sane medium between the non-enforced standards in Alabama and the nazi-enforced standards in CA. __________________ Charles 1999 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0L AWD Stock ~190K miles