House plans that allow walkout basement tall enough for car lift???

*bronco2guy* · 01-13-2010, 08:25 PM

In a couple years we're thinking about building new house on parents farm, trying to avoid building house and shop, by building 2story house on foundation/basement with walk out backside, but the catch is on 1 end or the other i want to have a car lift in basement, so Im thinking ceiling height will have to be around 13ft? Has any seen anything like this or have any pics?

Thanks for your input.

explorerguy89 · 01-13-2010, 08:28 PM

i havent seen but sounds pretty freakin sweet =p so i say gopher it

**BrooklynBay** · 01-13-2010, 08:36 PM

You will need to make a driveway with a 45* incline, and sufficient water drainage. Underground heating of that slope with Pex tubing would be a good idea for the winter months where snow could accumulate, and cause a hazardous condition. I know people with this kind of driveway. They had to replace their garage door several times because their vehicle slipped down the slope.

*bronco2guy* · 01-13-2010, 08:40 PM

Hmm, wouldnt be sloped much??
I will try and find house examples, but may end up desinging it completely myself

*gmanpaint* · 01-13-2010, 08:53 PM

I have worked in many a home with a 14' walkout basement with an attached garage. Main garage is directly above it. Corrugated Steel panel lined over steel truss, with full concrete pad above for main garage floor.

Very doable.

my pos mounty · 01-13-2010, 09:20 PM

Guess you could do something like a tri-level. The highest level being where your lift would be. That way you wouldnt have to have the heavy slope on the lot.

*unclemeat* · 01-14-2010, 05:30 AM

13-feet basement walls will be expensive. You have two choices, shorter reinforced concrete wall and framed wall for the additional height, or a tall massive reinforced concrete wall.

Attached garage will require minimum 1-hour fire rated walls (double sheetrock) with fire stop insulation. I used to think that attached garages were a good idea, but fire and ventelation have changed my mind. Insurance is higher for attached garage.

I would also consider constructing the basement floor with a sump instead of a lift.

A detached garage has some advantage. I like to do a spread footing with masonry foundation and slab on grade. The masonry wall height can be adjusted to allow 8-feet frame stud walls with a 13-feet total height wall. This may also work for atttached garage, but depending on the homesite 8-feet walls may not work.

I would also build your garage with an overhead steel I-beam for engine lift/removal.

**BrooklynBay** · 01-14-2010, 08:48 AM

Wonderboard/cement board is fire resistant if you want to use this instead of sheetrock.

*bronco2guy* · 01-14-2010, 07:42 PM

Measured brothers 2 post car lift today. Measures at 11 and 1/2 foot tall. so 12ft walls will be needed1st off, i will try and get some pics, several have mentioned slope this will not be a problem, where we want to put it. I will try and find detailed pics, from the front side will like like any other 2 story house with level yard and wrap around porch, not to concerned about having to double sheet rock or anything, we will do most of the labor.

Today walked around for couple hrs in 3million dollar house and got some ideas

*bronco2guy* · 01-14-2010, 07:46 PM

The lift as connected center steel beam, that has thing that can slide back and forth and be used as engine hoist so no need for steel beam overhead in garage portion.

Meausred my current ceiling in my garage is 8ft 8in
with almost 8ft garage doors

this basement would have a 10x10 garage door on the bay with car lift

expense wise, some is more for being taller foundation and timber, but 1 insurance bill instead of 2, 1 outdoor wood furnace heats intire house and can run tubing in floor for heated floor

*unclemeat* · 01-15-2010, 05:21 AM

I did a 9-foot wall reinforced poured in place wall over the summer. It was pretty substainial. It was expensive to build. If you keep you wall 8-feet or less it can be built with solid grouted reinforced cinderblocks.

*gmanpaint* · 01-15-2010, 07:50 AM

Wood burning furnace? For a new home? Why would you want that set up?

I am also trying to understand why the want for a basement shop in your home.
Whats wrong with a detached shop? No concrete walls to build. Keeping volatile chemicals separate from home makes me sleep better.

01-13-2010, 08:25 PM	#1
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,344 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	House plans that allow walkout basement tall enough for car lift??? In a couple years we're thinking about building new house on parents farm, trying to avoid building house and shop, by building 2story house on foundation/basement with walk out backside, but the catch is on 1 end or the other i want to have a car lift in basement, so Im thinking ceiling height will have to be around 13ft? Has any seen anything like this or have any pics? Thanks for your input.

01-13-2010, 08:36 PM	#3
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,674 Vehicle Specs	You will need to make a driveway with a 45* incline, and sufficient water drainage. Underground heating of that slope with Pex tubing would be a good idea for the winter months where snow could accumulate, and cause a hazardous condition. I know people with this kind of driveway. They had to replace their garage door several times because their vehicle slipped down the slope. __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

01-13-2010, 08:53 PM	#5
gmanpaint Torsion Bar Free since 2010 94 XLT-95 FX4 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,924 Vehicle Specs	I have worked in many a home with a 14' walkout basement with an attached garage. Main garage is directly above it. Corrugated Steel panel lined over steel truss, with full concrete pad above for main garage floor. Very doable. __________________ The Black Hole Pugly

01-13-2010, 09:20 PM	#6
my pos mounty Wannabe Elite Explorer Land of Corruption 06 F-350 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,816 Vehicle Specs	Guess you could do something like a tri-level. The highest level being where your lift would be. That way you wouldnt have to have the heavy slope on the lot. __________________ 1999 Mountaineer, RIP

01-14-2010, 08:48 AM	#8
BrooklynBay Aerostar Forum Moderator Brooklyn, NY 88 89 93 95 96 Aerostars Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 45,674 Vehicle Specs	Wonderboard/cement board is fire resistant if you want to use this instead of sheetrock. __________________ My list of useful threads. My photo gallery. My product reviews. My list of items for sale. Aerostar owners thread. Aerostar parts work in Explorers, Rangers, and Bronco II thread. History of the Aerostar thread. Aerostar Forum. New Members Forum. Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Forum.

01-13-2010, 08:40 PM	#4
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,344 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Hmm, wouldnt be sloped much?? I will try and find house examples, but may end up desinging it completely myself

01-14-2010, 05:30 AM	#7
unclemeat Elite Explorer Richmond, VA 91 sport Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,383 Vehicle Specs	13-feet basement walls will be expensive. You have two choices, shorter reinforced concrete wall and framed wall for the additional height, or a tall massive reinforced concrete wall. Attached garage will require minimum 1-hour fire rated walls (double sheetrock) with fire stop insulation. I used to think that attached garages were a good idea, but fire and ventelation have changed my mind. Insurance is higher for attached garage. I would also consider constructing the basement floor with a sump instead of a lift. A detached garage has some advantage. I like to do a spread footing with masonry foundation and slab on grade. The masonry wall height can be adjusted to allow 8-feet frame stud walls with a 13-feet total height wall. This may also work for atttached garage, but depending on the homesite 8-feet walls may not work. I would also build your garage with an overhead steel I-beam for engine lift/removal.

01-14-2010, 07:42 PM	#9
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,344 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Measured brothers 2 post car lift today. Measures at 11 and 1/2 foot tall. so 12ft walls will be needed1st off, i will try and get some pics, several have mentioned slope this will not be a problem, where we want to put it. I will try and find detailed pics, from the front side will like like any other 2 story house with level yard and wrap around porch, not to concerned about having to double sheet rock or anything, we will do most of the labor. Today walked around for couple hrs in 3million dollar house and got some ideas

01-14-2010, 07:46 PM	#10
bronco2guy Built not bought. Columbia, MO 91 Ford Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,344 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	The lift as connected center steel beam, that has thing that can slide back and forth and be used as engine hoist so no need for steel beam overhead in garage portion. Meausred my current ceiling in my garage is 8ft 8in with almost 8ft garage doors this basement would have a 10x10 garage door on the bay with car lift expense wise, some is more for being taller foundation and timber, but 1 insurance bill instead of 2, 1 outdoor wood furnace heats intire house and can run tubing in floor for heated floor

01-15-2010, 05:21 AM	#11
unclemeat Elite Explorer Richmond, VA 91 sport Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,383 Vehicle Specs	I did a 9-foot wall reinforced poured in place wall over the summer. It was pretty substainial. It was expensive to build. If you keep you wall 8-feet or less it can be built with solid grouted reinforced cinderblocks.

01-15-2010, 07:50 AM	#12
gmanpaint Torsion Bar Free since 2010 94 XLT-95 FX4 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,924 Vehicle Specs	Wood burning furnace? For a new home? Why would you want that set up? I am also trying to understand why the want for a basement shop in your home. Whats wrong with a detached shop? No concrete walls to build. Keeping volatile chemicals separate from home makes me sleep better. __________________ The Black Hole Pugly