New Navajo Truggy build

*baphomet666* · 11-27-2011, 12:33 PM

it must be very pleasant driving a truck that goes everywhere.
the child can be proud of you

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*4wheeltom* · 11-27-2011, 01:17 PM

I've been watching this build for awhile, good to see that you got it in the dirt. Congrats on an awsome build.

Elgatoprerunner · 11-27-2011, 11:40 PM

Hope this works. This is the link for the Navajo shake down run.

http://youtu.be/i1MHgSUukuY

Brandon96 · 11-28-2011, 12:31 AM

If I could shake your hand right now I would.

AWESOME build sir, awesome.

*baphomet666* · 11-28-2011, 07:28 AM

Very impressive work of the front axle and suspension, WHAou I made the travel FRANCE for a ride with you immédiatly if you invite me

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*mounty71* · 11-28-2011, 11:36 PM

Why is the exo shaking so much?!

Elgatoprerunner · 11-29-2011, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mounty71

Why is the exo shaking so much?!

Good question Matt.
I was wondering the same thing. This is what I think was causing that.

1. The rock sliders still need some triangulation. The cage ties into them in front of the door and behind the door. At this point the rock sliders are welded to the frame at a right angle. I need some gussets there.

2. The body is still on stock rubber bushings. If the problem persists I may swap those out for some aluminum pucks. Boxing in the frame will also help.

3. The front of the cage is not finished yet, I still have to run some tubing over the fenders and connect to the bumper that isn't there yet.

4. I also plan on welding the rock sliders directly to the body to help tie everything together.

Planning a New Years trip to Truck Haven. Anyone else planning on a trip there?

*mounty71* · 11-29-2011, 08:16 AM

Have you considered adding some triangulation to the cage from side to side? You'd have to go through the cab but the strength gain would be worth it. And you probably already know, but only weld the sliders to the cab if you solid mount the cab, otherwise the body will just tear away from the sliders.

Elgatoprerunner · 12-15-2011, 10:56 PM

Here are my new (to me) Fox 4" 2.0 air bumps. They arent fully extended because I let all the Nitrogen out. If 4" is too much I can adjust their travel by inserting a spacer inside them.

I got to say that Deaver spring co is a top notch class act company. These guys will work with you to suit your needs. These springs new are $650. They sit a little higher than I had hoped. With a full tank of gas, tools, cooler full of beverages and 4 people I think it will sit pretty level.

I came across some used 14" travel Bilsteins for the rear. The Pro Comp shocks I was using were a piece of shit. Yes that is still a stock shackle. I don't want any more lift and this thing pulls a true 14" of rear travel, maybe more because my shock is on a slight angle. I don't think fabricating shackles will do me any good.

I bought some bump stop cans for the rear. Some day I will try to get air bumps for them also. I'll be checking Craigslist frequently

*baphomet666* · 12-16-2011, 03:14 AM

Great look.......

~ Dominik

GRNMACHINE · 12-16-2011, 10:07 AM

Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foxracin · 12-16-2011, 11:29 AM

You still have the old superlift springs you took off? If so I really need them.

*baphomet666* · 12-16-2011, 11:54 AM

with gold hands and a head that thinks well, it's amazing what can be done ......... certainly the time and patience more and some

~ Dominik

Elgatoprerunner · 12-16-2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxracin

You still have the old superlift springs you took off? If so I really need them.

Unfortunately the reason I had to buy new springs is I messed up the Superlift springs.
I was attempting to make my own leaf pack and accidentally cut the wrong leaf there for ruining the Superlift springs.

They were pretty clapped out and bent any ways.

Sorry

*Xeek* · 12-16-2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgatoprerunner

Here are my new (to me) Fox 4" 2.0 air bumps. They arent fully extended because I let all the Nitrogen out. If 4" is too much I can adjust their travel by inserting a spacer inside them.

I bought some bump stop cans for the rear. Some day I will try to get air bumps for them also. I'll be checking Craigslist frequently

http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125323

Elgatoprerunner · 12-17-2011, 11:11 AM

This seems to be the most popular way to cycle leaf springs.
I made spacers to accomidate for the leafs I removed and lowered the vehicle with the forklift. Took some measurments to see how long the bump stops should be.

Full bump

It pulls a true 14 1/2" of rear wheel travel. I guess I could get more if I wanted to modify the shock mounts and get longer shocks.
As it is now the springs have a drastic negative arc at full bump. Not sure how good this is for the springs.

*mounty71* · 12-17-2011, 01:39 PM

Generally I think 1" to 2" of negative arch is acceptable, but unfortunately with the stock leaf mounts and the design of the frame of explorers, you lose a lot of bump travel if you limit it. And bump travel is your friend on a desert truck. That's why in the future I'm planning on doing custom leaf mounts.

Elgatoprerunner · 12-20-2011, 11:46 PM

Started on the front winch bumper today. Still have a lot of tubing still to run.

This tubing running in front of the grill is a random length just to hold everything together. It will be cut back later.

Removed the body mount. I'm going to solid mount all the body mounts

Maybe one day I'll buy a winch. Just wanted to make sure the bumper could handle one.

*baphomet666* · 12-21-2011, 04:24 AM

Shit, or you take all your ideas

~ Dominik ....

Elgatoprerunner · 12-21-2011, 11:05 PM

Got a few more pieces tacked up. I only have about 1 1/2 hours on work nights to work on it.

11-27-2011, 12:33 PM	#181
baphomet666 Elite Explorer Bordeaux,FRANCE Explorer.1994. 4WD Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866 Vehicle Specs	it must be very pleasant driving a truck that goes everywhere. the child can be proud of you - __________________ X 1994 4.0, Intake System Air Filter KKM,Flowmaster Exhaust System - Force II, BBK Performance 1580 66mm, I'm French my name is Dominik You want something of FRANCE ask me by PM

11-27-2011, 11:40 PM	#183
Elgatoprerunner Wannabe Elite Explorer La Habra, CA 1992 Mazda Navajo Truggy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 174 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Youtube video Hope this works. This is the link for the Navajo shake down run. http://youtu.be/i1MHgSUukuY

11-28-2011, 12:31 AM	#184
Brandon96 Wannabe Elite Explorer Central Virginia '96 XLT 4.0 OHV Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,325 Vehicle Specs	If I could shake your hand right now I would. AWESOME build sir, awesome. __________________ 1996 XLT 4x4 - TruckTruck BUILT 4.0L OHV/SOHC Hybrid - Done. Before - After

11-28-2011, 07:28 AM	#185
baphomet666 Elite Explorer Bordeaux,FRANCE Explorer.1994. 4WD Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866 Vehicle Specs	Very impressive work of the front axle and suspension, WHAou I made the travel FRANCE for a ride with you immédiatly if you invite me - __________________ X 1994 4.0, Intake System Air Filter KKM,Flowmaster Exhaust System - Force II, BBK Performance 1580 66mm, I'm French my name is Dominik You want something of FRANCE ask me by PM

11-28-2011, 11:36 PM	#186
mounty71 It's green, not gray. San Francisco, CA '00 Mountaineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,081 Vehicle Specs	Why is the exo shaking so much?! __________________ MATT SCHWARTZ 2000 MOUNTAINEERINATOR REGISTRY 1991 FORD EXPLORER (IN EXPLORER HEAVEN) REGISTRY

11-27-2011, 01:17 PM	#182
4wheeltom Elite Explorer Filer, ID 91 XLT Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 55 Vehicle Specs	I've been watching this build for awhile, good to see that you got it in the dirt. Congrats on an awsome build.

11-29-2011, 08:16 AM	#188
mounty71 It's green, not gray. San Francisco, CA '00 Mountaineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,081 Vehicle Specs	Have you considered adding some triangulation to the cage from side to side? You'd have to go through the cab but the strength gain would be worth it. And you probably already know, but only weld the sliders to the cab if you solid mount the cab, otherwise the body will just tear away from the sliders. __________________ MATT SCHWARTZ 2000 MOUNTAINEERINATOR REGISTRY 1991 FORD EXPLORER (IN EXPLORER HEAVEN) REGISTRY

12-15-2011, 10:56 PM	#189
Elgatoprerunner Wannabe Elite Explorer La Habra, CA 1992 Mazda Navajo Truggy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 174 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Fox 4" air bumps and Deaver springs Here are my new (to me) Fox 4" 2.0 air bumps. They arent fully extended because I let all the Nitrogen out. If 4" is too much I can adjust their travel by inserting a spacer inside them. I got to say that Deaver spring co is a top notch class act company. These guys will work with you to suit your needs. These springs new are $650. They sit a little higher than I had hoped. With a full tank of gas, tools, cooler full of beverages and 4 people I think it will sit pretty level. I came across some used 14" travel Bilsteins for the rear. The Pro Comp shocks I was using were a piece of shit. Yes that is still a stock shackle. I don't want any more lift and this thing pulls a true 14" of rear travel, maybe more because my shock is on a slight angle. I don't think fabricating shackles will do me any good. I bought some bump stop cans for the rear. Some day I will try to get air bumps for them also. I'll be checking Craigslist frequently

12-16-2011, 03:14 AM	#190
baphomet666 Elite Explorer Bordeaux,FRANCE Explorer.1994. 4WD Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866 Vehicle Specs	Great look....... ~ Dominik __________________ X 1994 4.0, Intake System Air Filter KKM,Flowmaster Exhaust System - Force II, BBK Performance 1580 66mm, I'm French my name is Dominik You want something of FRANCE ask me by PM

12-16-2011, 10:07 AM	#191
GRNMACHINE Wannabe Elite Explorer IL 95 Sport 4x4 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,374 Vehicle Specs	Incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 95 Sport 4x4, 3.73, tt/shackles, K&N FIPK, 33X12.50X15 BFG T/A, 15x10 DC-1's, Pro Comp ES9000 shocks, Flowmaster Catback, ARB OME Leaf Springs, 2" BODYLIFT "Thy shall Not Leaveth Thou Chariot Stocketh" Explorer 2nd Genesis GRNMACHINE

12-16-2011, 11:29 AM	#192
Foxracin Wannabe Elite Explorer Mount Holly, NC 1991 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,082 Vehicle Specs	You still have the old superlift springs you took off? If so I really need them. __________________ 1991 Explorer 4x4 1988 5.sl0w Ranger

12-16-2011, 11:54 AM	#193
baphomet666 Elite Explorer Bordeaux,FRANCE Explorer.1994. 4WD Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866 Vehicle Specs	with gold hands and a head that thinks well, it's amazing what can be done ......... certainly the time and patience more and some ~ Dominik __________________ X 1994 4.0, Intake System Air Filter KKM,Flowmaster Exhaust System - Force II, BBK Performance 1580 66mm, I'm French my name is Dominik You want something of FRANCE ask me by PM

12-17-2011, 11:11 AM	#196
Elgatoprerunner Wannabe Elite Explorer La Habra, CA 1992 Mazda Navajo Truggy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 174 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Cycling Deaver leaf springs This seems to be the most popular way to cycle leaf springs. I made spacers to accomidate for the leafs I removed and lowered the vehicle with the forklift. Took some measurments to see how long the bump stops should be. Full bump It pulls a true 14 1/2" of rear wheel travel. I guess I could get more if I wanted to modify the shock mounts and get longer shocks. As it is now the springs have a drastic negative arc at full bump. Not sure how good this is for the springs.

12-17-2011, 01:39 PM	#197
mounty71 It's green, not gray. San Francisco, CA '00 Mountaineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,081 Vehicle Specs	Generally I think 1" to 2" of negative arch is acceptable, but unfortunately with the stock leaf mounts and the design of the frame of explorers, you lose a lot of bump travel if you limit it. And bump travel is your friend on a desert truck. That's why in the future I'm planning on doing custom leaf mounts. __________________ MATT SCHWARTZ 2000 MOUNTAINEERINATOR REGISTRY 1991 FORD EXPLORER (IN EXPLORER HEAVEN) REGISTRY

12-20-2011, 11:46 PM	#198
Elgatoprerunner Wannabe Elite Explorer La Habra, CA 1992 Mazda Navajo Truggy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 174 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Started on the front bumper. Started on the front winch bumper today. Still have a lot of tubing still to run. This tubing running in front of the grill is a random length just to hold everything together. It will be cut back later. Removed the body mount. I'm going to solid mount all the body mounts Maybe one day I'll buy a winch. Just wanted to make sure the bumper could handle one.

12-21-2011, 04:24 AM	#199
baphomet666 Elite Explorer Bordeaux,FRANCE Explorer.1994. 4WD Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 866 Vehicle Specs	Shit, or you take all your ideas ~ Dominik .... __________________ X 1994 4.0, Intake System Air Filter KKM,Flowmaster Exhaust System - Force II, BBK Performance 1580 66mm, I'm French my name is Dominik You want something of FRANCE ask me by PM

12-21-2011, 11:05 PM	#200
Elgatoprerunner Wannabe Elite Explorer La Habra, CA 1992 Mazda Navajo Truggy Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 174 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Bumper progress Got a few more pieces tacked up. I only have about 1 1/2 hours on work nights to work on it.