tearing out my POS ford remote starter

splash5 · 06-07-2012, 07:24 PM

i give in the ford starter has no range, 3 dealers say the poor range i have is normal. everyone i speak to say they hate theirs too!!!

time to go back to a good reliable astro start.

this is a warning in advance to anyone thinking of buys the option. don't waste your money or time. just get an astrostart or viper act installed instead of messing around.

wander if ford will refund the POS they sold me.. anyone else took theres out yet.

splash5 · 06-07-2012, 07:28 PM

don't buy the ford ones...

save your time and money just buy a good brand such as astrostart or viper etc . That way you will be happy rather than wasting your $$$ on the for POS.

just my 2c but hope other heed this warning.

**RonJrSVCMGR** · 06-07-2012, 07:47 PM

Beware of aftermarket installers that just hack into any power source they can find. I have ripped more POS aftermarket starters out (at customer expense) to solve issues caused by tapping into said power source.....

Just my 2c and I hope others heed the warning....

**RonJrSVCMGR** · 06-07-2012, 07:56 PM

(cricket sounds).....

splash5 · 06-07-2012, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonJrSVCMGR

Beware of aftermarket installers that just hack into any power source they can find. I have ripped more POS aftermarket starters out (at customer expense) to solve issues caused by tapping into said power source.....

Just my 2c and I hope others heed the warning....

i 100% agree there are ALOT of poorly installed starters out there. I've seen some of the installs people have done. everyone should always check the background of somewhere before you give them your $$$.

I've just lost faith in the ford starters I've had 3 friend pull theres out for the same reason. we all have the problem where if we park our cars (my EX, 2 f150, and a taurus) in the driveways we can't even get them to start from 50ft away. i even called ford 800 number and the rep said that they have had a number of people with similar problems (even having it serviced a number of times by 2 different dealers) and so far 3 out of 3 dealers have said they are very poor for range. (1 of them only sell/install ford ones and they still don't like them)

im not saying they are all bad but make sure if you get one test it well b4 you leave the lot as ford will not refund once its been put in and taken off the lot (this is try with most aftermarket too)

**RonJrSVCMGR** · 06-07-2012, 09:05 PM

The biggest problem we have seen is with the new fob where the customer does not realize you need to push the LOCK button on the fob first and then the 2X button twice.

dco43054 · 06-08-2012, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splash5

don't buy the ford ones...

save your time and money just buy a good brand such as astrostart or viper etc . That way you will be happy rather than wasting your $$$ on the for POS.

just my 2c but hope other heed this warning.

It would help if you gave some reasons why.

I have the long range Ford model and love it. Works fine from a 400 feet away. Like any low power radio device, there are limitations due to obstructions, etc. The best part is that it is fully integrated into the vehicle electronics.

dco43054 · 06-08-2012, 05:13 AM

redundant - merged thread

GWA1 · 06-08-2012, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splash5

i give in the ford starter has no range, 3 dealers say the poor range i have is normal. everyone i speak to say they hate theirs too!!!

time to go back to a good reliable astro start.

this is a warning in advance to anyone thinking of buys the option. don't waste your money or time. just get an astrostart or viper act installed instead of messing around.

wander if ford will refund the POS they sold me.. anyone else took theres out yet.

WOW! My factory installed remote start works perfectly. Although sometimes at certain angles to the Ex it will not start. Everyone I talked to likes it.

GWA1 · 06-08-2012, 08:24 AM

deleted since combined

**Turdle** · 06-08-2012, 08:26 AM

2 remote starter threads now merged into one.

splash5 · 06-08-2012, 08:36 AM

mine was the long rang one not the one built into the key fob.

ford say it should be 1000ft (http://www.partscheap.com/2011-2012-...z-19g364-e.htm) i know this is in open area, so real range should be 200-350ft no problem, i couldn't start it in driveway, it wouldn't start out back of my office, or when at a store. in and open lot i could get about 150ft at best. but as soon as a wall or anything was between me n it... nothing, it would send the signal and light up but never start or give a confirmation. (same problem friends had with theirs too)

*Gatortailale* · 06-08-2012, 08:38 AM

would be useful if you listed which starter you had installed and now don't like. There are a few options out there. Please narrow it down to your specific item.

splash5 · 06-08-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatortailale

would be useful if you listed which starter you had installed and now don't like. There are a few options out there. Please narrow it down to your specific item.

mine would be this one...

http://www.partscheap.com/2011-2012-...z-19g364-e.htm

was installed by dealer at time of purchase.

GWA1 · 06-08-2012, 09:36 AM

Here is is on another thread

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=339130

wikidhd · 06-08-2012, 10:10 AM

I have the remote start on my 13 Linited and it works great...no problems here as long as u push the lock button first, it works great......

uniquename · 06-08-2012, 10:39 AM

I am the first I know of to get the ford one added to an XLT (with new keys that had the 4th button). It's been flawless, and range is great.

*Joe Dirt* · 06-08-2012, 11:08 AM

We have the simple 100 series on our 2012 Escape:

...and get a really good range out of it, I'd say that the listed ~300' range is on the short end. We've had it fire up from well past that. Completely satisfied...

*peterk9* · 06-08-2012, 11:25 AM

I have the factory installed remore start in my limited. I have been able to start the Explorer from at least 175' away while it was parked in the garage. Haven't tried it from a further distance yet.
One thing to remember is that this particular remote start system will not work if two remote vehicle starts have already been attempted within the hour. The vehicle will flash the lights but will not start.
That might explain why some who are remote start testing find that their Ex won't start.

Peter

182RG · 06-08-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniquename

I am the first I know of to get the ford one added to an XLT (with new keys that had the 4th button). It's been flawless, and range is great.

I had the factory 4 button key version installed when I picked up my 2011 XLT. It works well, up to several hundred feet.

06-07-2012, 07:24 PM	#1
splash5 Wannabe Elite Explorer West Fargo ND 2011 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 55 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	tearing out my POS ford remote starter i give in the ford starter has no range, 3 dealers say the poor range i have is normal. everyone i speak to say they hate theirs too!!! time to go back to a good reliable astro start. this is a warning in advance to anyone thinking of buys the option. don't waste your money or time. just get an astrostart or viper act installed instead of messing around. wander if ford will refund the POS they sold me.. anyone else took theres out yet.

06-07-2012, 07:28 PM	#2
splash5 Wannabe Elite Explorer West Fargo ND 2011 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 55 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Warning to others RE: remote starters don't buy the ford ones... save your time and money just buy a good brand such as astrostart or viper etc . That way you will be happy rather than wasting your $$$ on the for POS. just my 2c but hope other heed this warning.

06-07-2012, 07:47 PM	#3
RonJrSVCMGR 11-13 Explorer Moderator Gilford, NH '13 Ford Explorer Limited Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 375 Vehicle Specs	Beware of aftermarket installers that just hack into any power source they can find. I have ripped more POS aftermarket starters out (at customer expense) to solve issues caused by tapping into said power source..... Just my 2c and I hope others heed the warning.... __________________ 2013 Ford Explorer Limited AWD in White Platinum Tri-coat & Medium Light Stone interior. 302a package with power fold 2nd row bucket seats, 2nd row center console, power fold 3rd row seats, trailer tow package, heated/cooled front seats, Ford all-weather floor mats (summer), WeatherTech Floor liners for all three rows (winter) & Cargo Well + Cargo Liner, additional Trailer Hitch Cap modified to accommodate a Bike Carrier, dual moonroof and Visual Garage Shark Fin Antenna. Goes by the name "Storm Trooper".

06-07-2012, 07:56 PM	#4
RonJrSVCMGR 11-13 Explorer Moderator Gilford, NH '13 Ford Explorer Limited Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 375 Vehicle Specs	(cricket sounds)..... __________________ 2013 Ford Explorer Limited AWD in White Platinum Tri-coat & Medium Light Stone interior. 302a package with power fold 2nd row bucket seats, 2nd row center console, power fold 3rd row seats, trailer tow package, heated/cooled front seats, Ford all-weather floor mats (summer), WeatherTech Floor liners for all three rows (winter) & Cargo Well + Cargo Liner, additional Trailer Hitch Cap modified to accommodate a Bike Carrier, dual moonroof and Visual Garage Shark Fin Antenna. Goes by the name "Storm Trooper".

06-07-2012, 09:05 PM	#6
RonJrSVCMGR 11-13 Explorer Moderator Gilford, NH '13 Ford Explorer Limited Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 375 Vehicle Specs	The biggest problem we have seen is with the new fob where the customer does not realize you need to push the LOCK button on the fob first and then the 2X button twice. __________________ 2013 Ford Explorer Limited AWD in White Platinum Tri-coat & Medium Light Stone interior. 302a package with power fold 2nd row bucket seats, 2nd row center console, power fold 3rd row seats, trailer tow package, heated/cooled front seats, Ford all-weather floor mats (summer), WeatherTech Floor liners for all three rows (winter) & Cargo Well + Cargo Liner, additional Trailer Hitch Cap modified to accommodate a Bike Carrier, dual moonroof and Visual Garage Shark Fin Antenna. Goes by the name "Storm Trooper".

06-08-2012, 05:13 AM	#8
dco43054 Wannabe Elite Explorer cmh 02 XLT, 11 XLT Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 564 Vehicle Specs	redundant - merged thread Last edited by dco43054; 06-09-2012 at 07:12 AM.

06-08-2012, 08:24 AM	#10
GWA1 Wannabe Elite Explorer New Castle, DE 2011 Explorer Limited AWD Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 445 Vehicle Specs	deleted since combined __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."- Mark Twain Last edited by GWA1; 06-08-2012 at 09:26 AM.

06-08-2012, 08:26 AM	#11
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,738 Vehicle Specs	2 remote starter threads now merged into one. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

06-08-2012, 08:36 AM	#12
splash5 Wannabe Elite Explorer West Fargo ND 2011 XLT Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 55 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	mine was the long rang one not the one built into the key fob. ford say it should be 1000ft (http://www.partscheap.com/2011-2012-...z-19g364-e.htm) i know this is in open area, so real range should be 200-350ft no problem, i couldn't start it in driveway, it wouldn't start out back of my office, or when at a store. in and open lot i could get about 150ft at best. but as soon as a wall or anything was between me n it... nothing, it would send the signal and light up but never start or give a confirmation. (same problem friends had with theirs too)

06-08-2012, 08:38 AM	#13
Gatortailale Elite Explorer Reston, VA 2013 Limited Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 140 Vehicle Specs	would be useful if you listed which starter you had installed and now don't like. There are a few options out there. Please narrow it down to your specific item. __________________ Craig 2013 Limited, Ecoboost, Deep Impact Blue Metalic - 2nd Row Buckets - 301A - BLIS 1990 D. III Footall National Champion at Allegheny College.

06-08-2012, 09:36 AM	#15
GWA1 Wannabe Elite Explorer New Castle, DE 2011 Explorer Limited AWD Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 445 Vehicle Specs	Here is is on another thread http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=339130 __________________ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."- Mark Twain

06-08-2012, 10:10 AM	#16
wikidhd Wannabe Elite Explorer Woodbridge,VA 2013 Explorer Limited Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 122 Vehicle Specs	I have the remote start on my 13 Linited and it works great...no problems here as long as u push the lock button first, it works great......

06-08-2012, 10:39 AM	#17
uniquename Wannabe Elite Explorer Twin Cities, MN '11 XLT Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 546 Vehicle Specs	I am the first I know of to get the ford one added to an XLT (with new keys that had the 4th button). It's been flawless, and range is great.

06-08-2012, 11:25 AM	#19
peterk9 Toyota Highlander Convert Ottawa, Ontario area 2011 Limited AWD Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 4,244 Vehicle Specs	I have the factory installed remore start in my limited. I have been able to start the Explorer from at least 175' away while it was parked in the garage. Haven't tried it from a further distance yet. One thing to remember is that this particular remote start system will not work if two remote vehicle starts have already been attempted within the hour. The vehicle will flash the lights but will not start. That might explain why some who are remote start testing find that their Ex won't start. Peter __________________ Peter Explorer Limited White Platinum Tri-Coat,340A (Rapid Spec 302A). Previous rides;'99 Windstar; '02,'06 & 09 4WD Toyota Highlander Limiteds

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