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Old 05-17-2013, 05:56 PM   #1
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Replacing broken factory fog lights

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My sister's 2013 Explorer Sport (very nice ride...) has a broken fog light. We have purchased the replacement light (mom works at a Ford dealer), but when I looked under the front fascia, I couldn't even see the fog light housing, let alone think about removing it. Admittedly, this was just a quick look.

So, the question is this: How hard is it to replace this thing? Do I have to remove the fascia, or can it be done in tact? I'm hoping I can just jack up the front and pull the front wheel and get to it... Any advice from anyone who has dug into this part would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:50 PM   #2
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Search on here about fog lights, the posts have some pics too.

from what i read, you need to get behind the wheel, remove the cowl that is closing off the front bumper area, and then access the light housing.
From there you can remove the old lamp & swap it out.
Put cowl back on.
It seems tough to access them - if you had the small front ramps those probably are not going to be enough.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:10 PM   #3
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When you say the Fog light is broken, do you mean the bulb itself? To access the fog lamp bulbs I had to remove 3 or 4 screws below the fog light under the front corner valance. Then the plastic can be peeled back to give you access to the back of the fog.

I did not have to go in through the wheel area.
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When you say the Fog light is broken, do you mean the bulb itself? To access the fog lamp bulbs I had to remove 3 or 4 screws below the fog light under the front corner valance. Then the plastic can be peeled back to give you access to the back of the fog.

I did not have to go in through the wheel area.
I would assume he is talking about the lens since it is the first 'line of protection'.

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I would assume he is talking about the lens since it is the first 'line of protection'.

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The lens is broken. Happened at the 2100 mile mark no less. Which with my sister's commute, meant the 3 week mark...

It looks like that panel I saw with the brief look can be removed fairly easy, then it SHOULDN'T be too hard to get the old housing out and the new housing installed.

I hope. I going to get dressed and give it a try right now, so I should know shortly!

Thanks for the replies and I'll let you now how it went...

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Old 05-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #6
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Done. That wasn't quite as bit a pain as I thought. I have big arms and hands, so it was definitely cramped, but it's done and the lights work, so all is well.

Given how fast the first one broke, I almost wonder if she shouldn't get a spare just in case. Maybe she was unlucky, but I have a bad feeling about those fog lights...
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Done. That wasn't quite as bit a pain as I thought. I have big arms and hands, so it was definitely cramped, but it's done and the lights work, so all is well.

Given how fast the first one broke, I almost wonder if she shouldn't get a spare just in case. Maybe she was unlucky, but I have a bad feeling about those fog lights...
Concerned with getting a fog light cracked (they are glass) I went this route, Lamin-X fog light covers. The pastic film adds quite a bit of strength to the glass and protects it from chips etc.

They are about $15, come in multiple colors (albeit I picked clear) and have an easy application.

http://www.lamin-x.com/

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Concerned with getting a fog light cracked (they are glass) I went this route, Lamin-X fog light covers. The pastic film adds quite a bit of strength to the glass and protects it from chips etc.

They are about $15, come in multiple colors (albeit I picked clear) and have an easy application.

http://www.lamin-x.com/

That's not a bad idea. I think I'll go that route if she brakes another one. I'm still hoping it was just dumb luck...
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US These do not fit the 2013 Limited, but are nice

These are good and thick, color is great (yellow), but do not fit the 2013 Limited.
They say so on the order page on their site.

The fog lights will encounter the worst of the road so a good fit is key.
Trimming the lens cover would work...

But if just putting it on, its too big, tucking it in works but it doesnt look good up close.
Also its not a tight fit if tucking in & eventually moisture will get behind it.

Their install video, however, shows a tech with a removed light,
applying and finishing by wrapping the lens cover down around the edge of the lens.
So when you put it back in its a tight fit, likely would hold up well against water/snow for a long time.
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These are good and thick, color is great (yellow), but do not fit the 2013 Limited.
They say so on the order page on their site.

The fog lights will encounter the worst of the road so a good fit is key.
Trimming the lens cover would work...

But if just putting it on, its too big, tucking it in works but it doesnt look good up close.
Also its not a tight fit if tucking in & eventually moisture will get behind it.

Their install video, however, shows a tech with a removed light,
applying and finishing by wrapping the lens cover down around the edge of the lens.
So when you put it back in its a tight fit, likely would hold up well against water/snow for a long time.
I received a set from Lamin-x that was indeed too big. They seemed meant to the Ford Escape fog lights or an older Ford Explorer. I called Lamin-X back with the correct measurements and same day I had a new set of covers mailed to me no questions asked.

If my memory recalls me correctly I believe the original set they had listed for my car (2013 Ford Explorer Limited) on the website was about of 5 inches diameter.

The correct measurement is actually 3.5 inches and since this episode they have gone ahead and addenda the website to list specific 2013 Limited spec covers.

Needless to say the 3.5 inch diameter covers (now listed on the website) fit perfectly edge to edge without any trim, etc and are pretty straightforward to install.

(I'm not associated with Lamin-X in any way!)
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ho hoo ill be calling them tomorrow...
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When I had the 3M front end clear bra installed, the product was also used on the headlights, and fogs.
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This actually seems to be a common issue.

The left fog light on the wife's car shattered on a road trip to Austin back in March. Some of the broken glass was still sitting in the cup, there no other indication of an impact, and I couldn't recall hitting anything. It just shattered. The lamp still works, but I need to replace the assembly. I've searched around and found lots of threads about adding aftermarket lamps, but haven't found any pictures or an IPB of how to get the assembly out.

Can someone point out where that might be? The lower part of her valence/air dam also keeps popping off on both sides, I think there's a TSB for it, but I don't want to take it in until I get the light fixed. Knowing dealerships, they'll say that it was abuse.




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This actually seems to be a common issue.

The left fog light on the wife's car shattered on a road trip to Austin back in March. Some of the broken glass was still sitting in the cup, there no other indication of an impact, and I couldn't recall hitting anything. It just shattered. The lamp still works, but I need to replace the assembly. I've searched around and found lots of threads about adding aftermarket lamps, but haven't found any pictures or an IPB of how to get the assembly out.

Can someone point out where that might be? The lower part of her valence/air dam also keeps popping off on both sides, I think there's a TSB for it, but I don't want to take it in until I get the light fixed. Knowing dealerships, they'll say that it was abuse.
For the lower valance coming loose, there is a TSB 11-3-26 LOWER VALANCE COMING LOOSE . I doubt that the dealer will quote abuse regarding the fog light. They are by their very location, prone to being hit by stones and other debris from cars ahead of you.

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get the lamin-x BEFORE she breaks another fog light, at that point the lamin-x won't do any good but prevent the NEXT one from breaking lol.

Just had mine installed along with my 3M ventureshield clear bra, and lamin-x tinted headlight film
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For the lower valance coming loose, there is a TSB 11-3-26 LOWER VALANCE COMING LOOSE . I doubt that the dealer will quote abuse regarding the fog light. They are by their very location, prone to being hit by stones and other debris from cars ahead of you.

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Peter,

Thank you for that TSB #. I was actually referring to the valence implying that the dealership would see the broken light and then claim that the valence being loose on that side was from the same incident.




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Glass fog lights? Really?

Man, I'd love to meet the genius that decided glass fog lights housings were a great idea...I've had one cracked for a couple months and have drug my feet in getting a new one. Now on my road trip, my other one caught a rock and shattered.

Why couldn't they have made these out of plastic like headlights or any other car with fog lights I've ever owned?

Now $130 later, looks like ill have to go find some fog light protection film before I put them on.
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Man, I'd love to meet the genius that decided glass fog lights housings were a great idea...I've had one cracked for a couple months and have drug my feet in getting a new one. Now on my road trip, my other one caught a rock and shattered.

Why couldn't they have made these out of plastic like headlights or any other car with fog lights I've ever owned?

Now $130 later, looks like ill have to go find some fog light protection film before I put them on.
I have moved your post to this thread. Check above posts for a possible solution.

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Man, I'd love to meet the genius that decided glass fog lights housings were a great idea...I've had one cracked for a couple months and have drug my feet in getting a new one. Now on my road trip, my other one caught a rock and shattered.

Why couldn't they have made these out of plastic like headlights or any other car with fog lights I've ever owned?

Now $130 later, looks like ill have to go find some fog light protection film before I put them on.
I'll take glass fogs any day of the week over plastic ones that will dull and haze over time, and chip much easier than glass ones. A big rock will eventually break the glass ones, but they'll hold up better to small chips than plastic ones.

Lamin-x film over the glass, and you should have no issues
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I've had several cars with plastic fog lights and never had them haze over. If you clean your housings every so often and buff them with UV protectant they'll never haze over.

I suppose if you don't take the time to take care of your exterior, then I can see why you'd have problems eventually.
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