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Admin
Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona
'93 XL
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Jeep Liberty SUV Rolls Over in Test
Jeep Liberty SUV Rolls Over in Test -- 12/03/2001
A new Jeep Liberty two-wheel-drive sport-utility vehicle rolled over twice during an AutoWeek slalom driving test, the magazine has reported. AutoWeek said it was the first such accident since the test sequence was introduced nearly a decade ago. It cautioned that drivers should heed warning labels about the handling of vehicles with high centers of gravity. __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Flint, Midland, Ann Arbor, Alpena; all in Michigan
98 Contour SVT
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Oh man... that's a shame
__________________ 1994 F250 powerstroke 5 speed, Stage 1 injectors, Beans elec fuel delivery, Intake/exhaust, South Bend Clutch, Tony Wildman tunes 2007 Ford 3.8L supercharged rock buggy |
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Elite Zoom Zoomer!
Newport News, VA
'95 Ranger
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You can find the story about it here.
__________________ My Explorer (not any more!) and my Ranger My '06 Mazda MX-5 My '08 Harley My '08 Mazda 6 |
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The Xplorer U Luv to H8
EASTPOINTE, MI
03 4.6 Mounty
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Did any of you see the Jeep Liberty commercial (I saw it yesterday) where they say "Not every SUV is able to off-road" then they show an explorer stuck. Then the lady says to her husband, "You better get down there to help them out." I thought that was pretty damn funny.
__________________ 03 Mounty and an 05 Evo |
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Elite Explorer
Home-Lake Mills, Wisconsin / Live-Saudi Arabia
1995 4DR XLT 4X4
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After reading all of the hype about roll overs w/ Explorers, Jeeps, ect...
I have come to these conclusions that... Yes, Firestones do have a problem. With the treads coming off on so many vehicles. Why is it that the Explorers seem to have more roll overs than others BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE! The Explorer is the best selling SUV of course there are going to be more Explorers which in tern means more accidents with explorers involved. The people driving them are the problem. People are driving there Explorers like they drive there sports cars. The Explorer is not ment to be drive like that (Not in stock form anyway)! Add 3 or 4 other people with there weekend luggage. And guess what happens they drive the same. Just because you can take this turn at 50 mph doesn't meen you can still take it with 3 or 4 others with you. You can't stop in the same distance that you can when the Explorer is empty. People get complaisant they drive by themselves so often they get to know what the Vehicle can do, thats fine. But they load up the family and forget about stopping distances, the high center of gravity, the Vehicle just doen't handle like it does when empty and they expect it to. With the Liberty I think that if you want to you can roll just about anything. __________________ - Land of Sun & Sand- "TT", OME 2" Lift w/ Shocks, 3" Body Lift, Rhino Guards, 275 / 80 R15 Sumitomo Shaheens, 15"x10" Rims, Custom Rear Bumper Guard, Hella Lights, Flowmaster, Conferr Rack... pist. . . I See Voices ! Is That Wrong? |
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Moderator
Elite Explorer ECX Member Ellicott City, Maryland
1996 XLT
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Rick, you have to bare in mind, and I believe Chrysler mentioned this in AutoWeek's article, that the Jeep Liberty is a vehicle specifically designed for offroad use.
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Admin
Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona
'93 XL
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Looks like a good test scheme to me. An average driver may never push his SUV through a slalom course like that, but a situation could arise in traffic where you have to stab your brakes and turn at the same time. That is what caused the roll according to the article.
I just want to puke at these comments though: DaimlerChrysler questions the validity of such at-the-limits testing of an SUV, particularly one like Liberty that is designed to perform off-road. The fore-aft inputs from applying brakes at the start of the run, and throttle while cornering, Stephens suggested, contributed to the Liberty having pretty much all of its weight on the left front wheel just before it rolled. Though the test Jeep was a 2wd model, it shares the long-travel suspension (control arms in front, live axle in back, coil springs and gas shocks all around) and high ground clearance (eight inches at the rear axle) of the 4x4. The design allows Liberty to tackle serious off-road challenges such as the Rubicon Trail. Built to tackle the Rubicon huh... Yeah behind a freaking tow strap! __________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually |
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Moderator Emeritus
Littleton, CO
'05 Escape: No Boundaries
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I hope tdavis never purchases one of those!!!
It's about time the self-important Jeep got a dose of reality...![]() ![]() DOH! __________________ Chris Woodley 2005 Escape XLT: No Boundaries Edition
Last edited by mmpc; 12-05-2001 at 11:09 AM. |
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Elite Moderator
Houston, Texas
2008 JK
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Hehe, I think the rollover was on purpose, look how much better the thing looks after the roll than before! Who needs to manufacture body panels when you can just beat them into shape?
__________________ Alec "Dr. Candlepower" Rosenbaum Daily: 2008 JK Gone: EE "Splat", 2003 VW GTI VR6, 85 Bronco project |
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Elite Garage Builder
McVeytown, PA
'11 XLT
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__________________ Moderator..Home Improvement/Explorer 911/2011 Explorer Forum You took my breath away....and now I want it back.... '66 Mustang Coupe, '04 Mustang Mach 1, '08 Focus, '11 Explorer XLT "Ex"plorer's: '92 Sport, '94 Sport, '01 XLS Our Crappy Website |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Mesa, AZ
'97 4x4 Sport
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That's kinda what I was thinking. Unless you trailer your New Jeep Liberty to the trail, how else are you going to get there besides driving (and no air-drop is not an option)?
__________________ 4.56 Powertrax No-Slip, SOHC V6, SuperChip, K&N FIPK (#57-2513-1), Borla cat-back (#14748), 2" torsion lift, 3" PA body lift (#853), Monroe Reflex shocks, 285 75R16 BF Goodrich T/A ko, 2WD mod Earnhardt Ford, Berge Ford, U-Haul ![]() My Explorer |
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Elite Explorer Babe
Bellingham, WA
'94 XLT
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I saw a part of a news report simply about the repair cost of a 5mph accident in reverse for an SUV. The Liberty was the most expensive repair job. They showed it backing (at 5mph) into a flat wall and the spare tire on the back completely bent up every rear panel AND broke the rear window! The "bumper" busted up and fell off. It was like $5000 worth of damage! I wonder what would happen if someone plowed into you on the freeway at 70mph!!
Maybe it should be mandatory to have those test-drive wheelie bars sticking out of the sides of SUVs.
__________________ Gina <'\___~ Bellingham, WA ![]() '99 Mustang GT The extra 2 cylinders I've been craving 1994 Explorer XLT 4x4! Gone =( My MugShot (6/5/06) |
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Elite Explorer
ECX Member New Bern, NC
'95 Explorer "Expedition"
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
College Station, TX (school) / Houston, TX (Home)
02 Wrangler X
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Did you know that the 2002 explorer wasnt much better? The reason the liberty did so bad was because it went backwards at 5mph into a wall. This meant that the spare tire hit first. Its not an everyday situation. If you were to get rearended it would be hit at the bumper. Also if you were backing in to something chances are you wouldnt be on the gas the whole time. In the test the chain that pushes the car is the equivalent of cruise control at 5mph. There tests are rediculus.
__________________ Base:2002 Jeep Wrangler X, 4.0L I6, 3.07 gears, 5spd manual tranny, manual t-case. Add-ons:Rubicon Express 2" Budget Boost, Doestch Tech DT-3000 shocks. BFG AT 32x11.50 tires, and other little interior doodads |
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And the Roll Over Posse!
Under the Hood Moderator Mount Vernon, WA
1st Gen XLT 4dr
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Well, it looks likr the spot light is off the explorers at least for the time being.
__________________ Mount Vernon, WA Keep the Rubber Side DOWN!! OHV: 1st Gen-XTREME Tow/Chase Vehicle: Banks powered F-350 SuperDuty w/ camper Commuter: 08 Ford Focus SES(35 mpg, SYNC system) Projects: House, better on board air. Kevins Big Model and list of mods |
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Moderator Emeritus
Littleton, CO
'05 Escape: No Boundaries
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![]() The funny thing is, after years of other manufacturers taking pot shots, the Ford Explorer is still the 4th best-selling vehicle in America. That's right, not the 4th best-selling SUV, not the 4th best-selling truck... The 4th best-selling vehicle! Indeed, for the 2001 model year, Ford sold 394,198 Explorers! Poor Paul Hogan and his Subaru Outback...
__________________ Chris Woodley 2005 Escape XLT: No Boundaries Edition
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And den
Raleigh, NC
'99 Sport 4wd
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exactly, cause X's rule the WORLD!!
__________________ Curtis My truck 3link D30 SAS. DONE '99 Saab 9-5 2.3T http://www.eastcoastgearsupply.com |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Mesa, AZ
'97 4x4 Sport
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Even if the Jeep Liberty gets rear-ended by a car, the point of impact will be on the spare tire. It hangs down in front of the rear bumper which renders the bumper useless.
__________________ 4.56 Powertrax No-Slip, SOHC V6, SuperChip, K&N FIPK (#57-2513-1), Borla cat-back (#14748), 2" torsion lift, 3" PA body lift (#853), Monroe Reflex shocks, 285 75R16 BF Goodrich T/A ko, 2WD mod Earnhardt Ford, Berge Ford, U-Haul ![]() My Explorer |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Clemmons, NC
'06 Honda Accord EX-L
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Heh...that's what my dad said about the new Liberty. He said, "it's gonna be pretty expensive if you accidentally backed into a wall." Rather than hitting the bumper, you hit the spare, which spread the force all over the liftgate and liftglass. He said everything is good and drives well but he said that's the only weakness. Robert and others said it'll be more legit if a car rearend it, but what happens when a Tahoe or a Suburban rearend it?? It'll have the same effect as what the insurance institute said.
Heh...my dad said the same with brush guards. When you rear-end someone, the brush guard will actually cause more damage because the brush guard will push in toward the front of the rig, causing damage not only the bumper, but also the headlights, front fenders, and the hood. So when I asked dad if I could put a brush guard on, he said "NO! Don't even get it behind my back either." I believed him. Plus, it's technically his car so I have to respect that. __________________ Billy '06 Honda Accord EX-L '00 Acura Integra GS '98 Honda Accord EX-V6 '05 Honda Odyssey EX-L |
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Admin
Pumpkin Pilot Wayoutin, Aridzona
'93 XL
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Char car pools with a woman who owns a Liberty. she said the road noise at freeway speeds is horrendous and that's with the little bicycle tires it comes with
__________________ Rick Horwitz, AB7FH "Serious Exploration's" Admin Rick's '93/'98 Explorer "The Great Pumpkin" Dodge Dart 512 Resto/Race 10.29 @ 129 2004 Mustang Mach 1 2003 Dodge Ram/Cummins Dually |
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