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Al, why do you come to Atlanta so much? Is it because you can't get enough of that "ATL" style?
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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__________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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#303 |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Northwest Indiana
1991 Eddie Bauer 4x4
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I found the information I needed. In the USA, gas pump accuracy is measured in cubic inches. At sixty degrees fahrenheit, a gallon of gas is 231 cubic inches liquid. The test for gas pump accuracy is to fill a 5 gallon "prover" with what the pump claims is five gallons of gasoline. The pump is allowed to be over or under the correct value by six cubic inches.
5 * 231 = 1155 cubic inches of gas in 5 gallons 6 / 1155 = .005 So a fuel pump is allowed to be off by +/- one half of one percent. What this means for this discussion is that since we can (hopefully) neglect any error from aldive's GPS, since it should measure distance fairly accurately, we should also be able to neglect error from the fuel pumps, since if they're legal, they're not really contributing much error to the calculation. __________________ 1991 Eddie Bauer - 5spd - 4x4 - XM -169k miles and counting |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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Just retirned from a 1400 mile trip. Some mileage data is now available.
The driver of my Explorer for the entire trip was my lead footed, jack rabbit starting son. The first leg of the trip was from Sarasota, FL to Atlanta, GA. There were two adults in the truck. The mileage was 523. The average speed was 81.4 MPH and the mileage netted 28.9 MPG. This was using Mobil 87 gas with Fuel Power. I use the same Mobil station for fill up every time in Sarasota, therefore the pump automatic cut off point should be more or less the same each time. The next several hundred miles was in town driving with some highway driving and I did not determine mileage since I am interested in only the highway only mileage. We did switch to the 93 program and used Amoco 93 gas; fully taking advantage of that cheap(er) Georgia gas. The return leg from Atlanta to Sarasota was run using Amoco 93 gas ( using the same station every trip ), supplemented with Fuel Power, with the SCT Programmer switching to the 93 mileage program. This trip was 512 miles, average speed was 76.4 MPH, and the mileage was 31.4 MPG. This portion of the trip had 3 adults as well as a dog and a fully loaded truck. My thoughts: Speed kills, I am certain that the trip speed and driving procedure definitely cost mileage. It appears that Fuel Power indeed enhances mileage. __________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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Let Them Eat Cake
Cape Girardeau, MO
94 Sport 4x4
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__________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc. |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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__________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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Let Them Eat Cake
Cape Girardeau, MO
94 Sport 4x4
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__________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc. |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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__________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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Let Them Eat Cake
Cape Girardeau, MO
94 Sport 4x4
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Sounds good so far. Let us know the long-term effects of using Fuel Power. Will it continue to give you good mileage on your next tank? The tank after that? I think this will be the key piece of information regarding FP. Long term benefit. And cost vs. gas $$ saved.
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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__________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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Prepping for Moab '13
Newcastle Wa
White 94 Limited
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Al, would you be willing to share your Blackstone Labs oil analysis numbers??
__________________ The Crumudgeon Some engine thingy's, some suspension thingy's, some interior thingy's and some thingy's powder coated by Turdle Shell Powder Coating I've been busy |
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#312 |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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Oil analysis data....
ALUMINUM 7 CHROMIUM 2 IRON 20 COPPER 18 LEAD 20 TIN 3 MOLYBDENUM 8 NICKEL 3 MANGANESE 1 SILVER 0 TITANIUM 0 POTASSIUM 4 BORON 6 SILICON 14 SODIUM 8 CALCIUM 2398 MAGNESIUM 333 PHOSPHORUS 916 ZINC 1288 BARIUM 0 __________________ __________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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San Jose, Calif
2003 sport trac
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A little barium might do ya well
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Elite Explorer
West Virginia
1993 Sport, 1997 5.0
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i get about 16.. not too shabby for a 93 OHV with 115,000 miles and only 1 rust spot, thats right, i said only 1.. i should win all ford nationals with that lol
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Prepping for Moab '13
Newcastle Wa
White 94 Limited
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1994 4.0 OHV 136,380 total miles 3,200 on this sample. __________________ The Crumudgeon Some engine thingy's, some suspension thingy's, some interior thingy's and some thingy's powder coated by Turdle Shell Powder Coating I've been busy |
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Texas
91 XLT
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i wish i got 30mpg
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Wannabe Elite Explorer
Southeast USA
2000 Sport
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That's an interesting oil analysis comparison, Al & Albino. Do you both use Mobile1? The samples look very good to me.
Albino, your silicon is extremely low. Do you use a normal paper air filter? Maybe the rain in Washington keeps the dust washed away....? __________________ 2000 Sport 4x2, 4.0 ohv, 5R55E w/Superior shift kit, 3.55 diff, Mazda truck alloys/BFG TAs, RoadMaster Active Suspension, EE anti-sway bar, F&R poly bushings, camber kit, Rancho shocks, Hooker Aero Chamber muffler, Medium Wedgewood Blue..... Bought another 2000 Sport (God help me ), 4.0 ohv auto, 60K actual miles, Cragar SS alloys/BFG TAs, AAL, EE anti-sway bar, Gibson cat-back, Harvest Gold, GT leather interior.
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Prepping for Moab '13
Newcastle Wa
White 94 Limited
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We both use Amsoil.
I have a K&N drop in and I don't get into the dirt that much. __________________ The Crumudgeon Some engine thingy's, some suspension thingy's, some interior thingy's and some thingy's powder coated by Turdle Shell Powder Coating I've been busy |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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His sample was at 3k miles mine was at more than double that.
__________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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Elite In Memoriam
1999 XLT
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30 MPG and 80 MPH seems to be an impossible dream.
On a recent trip to North Florida for a family gathering at to look at a 1 year ild Britney bitch we drove 489 miles. No refils during the trip. There were three of is in the truck. average speed was 78.9 MPH, the fuel used was Amoco/BO 93 with Fuel Power at the rate of 1 oz/5 gal, the mileage was 28.3 MPG. My son was driving the entire trip. Speed kills... mileage too. I am going to try a couple of economy based programs in my SCT tuner after Christmas. __________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :( |
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