Dell 8200 Dimension

espnfreak · 03-16-2002, 01:00 PM

My parents are thinking of buying a dell 8200 dimension computer. It is $1279 and comes with all this stuff. 2.0 Pentium 4... anyways it says it comes with a 17" monitor but its not flat. is there anyway i can customize the special? Take a peek on dells site and try poking around at it. Thanks!

Mustangc1923 · 03-16-2002, 01:09 PM

not sure about online but most times you can find the same set at like best buy or so and they will upgrade to a lcd(flat panel) for cheaper than it would be to just straught up buy one

ChuckyD · 03-16-2002, 10:13 PM

Be careful with the pentium 4's from dell... they dont use the the rdram (rambus) they use the PC133
P4's are suposed to run at 400mhz bus speed... they have been cutting corners to drop the price to entice people to buy. They made it so it could be used with the older 133mhz ram... just make sure you ask them if it uses RDRAM or pc133! You wouldnt be getting the full potential out of a P4 with that!
Bottom Line... Just beware!

*NaplesBill* · 03-17-2002, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by ChuckyD
Be careful with the pentium 4's from dell... they dont use the the rdram (rambus) they use the PC133
P4's are suposed to run at 400mhz bus speed... they have been cutting corners to drop the price to entice people to buy. They made it so it could be used with the older 133mhz ram... just make sure you ask them if it uses RDRAM or pc133! You wouldnt be getting the full potential out of a P4 with that!
Bottom Line... Just beware!

This is interesting! I have a Dell with a P4 and I'm using 800mhz RAMBUS memory. When did they make this change?

ChuckyD · 03-17-2002, 10:44 PM

How old is your p4?

They have also been using some DDR too

*NaplesBill* · 03-18-2002, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by ChuckyD
How old is your p4?

They have also been using some DDR too

Well, it's an 8100 from 2001. I knew that Intel had brought out a chipset for the P4 that would allow you to use PC133 and DDR memory, just wasn't aware that Dell was using that chipset. Is it all their P4s or just some of them?

I remember reading somewhere that Intel has basically given up on RAMBUS. They made a statement to the effect that they will "let the market decide" which is probably a death toll for RAMBUS!

ChuckyD · 03-18-2002, 10:05 AM

The early P4's used rambus....
I forgot who maks rambus, but that company holds a patent for it, so no other company can make.. thats why the price is a little high.

To tell what u have do a search for a program called wcpuid
Many magazines use that program to do bench tests. It works well!

ChuckyD · 03-18-2002, 10:06 AM

Update: Rambus holds the patent and samsung makes it...

They are the only ones you can get it from.

aggieEB · 03-18-2002, 12:19 PM

You are correct, Rambus is made by Samsung. When the new P4s came out, pretty much every PC manufacturer went to Rambus Ram because it is much faster than regular PC133. The problem was that Samsung couldn't meet demands so the price stayed high and the quantity stayed low. Many PC makers broke their deals with samsung and went to different types of Ram which is why Dell is back to PC 133. I have a 8200 I bought in August of 2001 and it has RDRAM.

I haven't noticed a big difference between the different types of Ram. I would rather spend $300 to put 512 MB to 1 Gig of SDRAM in my system then 256 MB of RDRAM...but that's just my opinion.

*NaplesBill* · 03-18-2002, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by aggieEB
You are correct, Rambus is made by Samsung. When the new P4s came out, pretty much every PC manufacturer went to Rambus Ram because it is much faster than regular PC133. The problem was that Samsung couldn't meet demands so the price stayed high and the quantity stayed low. Many PC makers broke their deals with samsung and went to different types of Ram which is why Dell is back to PC 133. I have a 8200 I bought in August of 2001 and it has RDRAM.

I haven't noticed a big difference between the different types of Ram. I would rather spend $300 to put 512 MB to 1 Gig of SDRAM in my system then 256 MB of RDRAM...but that's just my opinion.

That is true, but you can always find a better price on the Internet. I bought 2 256MB RAMBUS chips on uBid for $77 each.

espnfreak · 03-18-2002, 03:56 PM

hmm so is this computer a good buy or not? My dad wants to keep this pos 300 mhz computer overloaded with mp3s. it stinks

01EB5.0 · 03-20-2002, 11:56 PM

My buddy upstairs has a dell like we are talking about. he likes the spee ofthe rambus, but is frusturated at the cost of upgrading. he says you gotta do it in pairs and it is expensive. i can get DDR for mine dirt cheap compared to him. personally I think my PC2100 DDR is pretty darn fast.

*FrankRizzo* · 03-21-2002, 12:09 AM

Dude...........you're gonna get a DELL!!!

Sorry, ... Sorry!
I should not have done that!

01EB5.0 · 03-21-2002, 12:20 AM

I am the kinda person who builds their own custom systems....thatway it's easy to "tweak" everything (ie: overclock the processor...etc...) plus it's easier to upgrade i the future.

id92 · 04-16-2002, 06:45 PM

they will let you upgrade the monitor..i bought my 8200 in november..i customized it after i put in the special they ran in the catalog they sent to my house. i got a 1.8ghz, 128mb rdram, 19" trinitron, geforce 2 64mb card, upgraded to harmon kardon 695 speakers, 40gig hd, 16x burner, 16x dvd, sb live sound card, cheap mouse and queitkey keyboard (already had cordless ones) i paid $1750 got $200 mail in rebate...

ok89 · 04-16-2002, 07:10 PM

yeah i dont like how the big companies cut corners by using some cheap parts. I build my own. I also heard that some of the earlier P4s have a terrible memory leak and that is being sold by Dell.

Note: The above is purely hearsay and is in noway meant to be slanderous towards Intel or Dell

ChuckyD · 04-16-2002, 07:12 PM

i just built a 2.2 ghz P4 w\ intel MOBO
1 gig of RDram
80 Gig 7200 RPM HD
Soundblaster 5.1 surround card
ATI ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 7500 64 MB DDR AGP
Altec Lansing 5.1 surround speakers
32 X Plextor Cdrw
Antec Case w\ 400 watt PS
All for $1600

Damn that thing is fast!!!! I built it for a guy I work with

espnfreak · 04-16-2002, 07:13 PM

Well we're building one anyways, thanks for the help!

01EB5.0 · 04-16-2002, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by espnfreak
Well we're building one anyways, thanks for the help!

Jay,
when I get home i can help you get a good setup.

03-16-2002, 01:00 PM	#1
espnfreak Wannabe Elite Explorer Elgin, IL '99 Maxima SE-L 5spd Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,820 Vehicle Specs* (Original Poster)	Dell 8200 Dimension My parents are thinking of buying a dell 8200 dimension computer. It is $1279 and comes with all this stuff. 2.0 Pentium 4... anyways it says it comes with a 17" monitor but its not flat. is there anyway i can customize the special? Take a peek on dells site and try poking around at it. Thanks! __________________ Mechanical Engineering @ Purdue University 1996 Ford Explorer - TOTALLED Life's A Garden - Dig It '99 Maxima SE-Limited 5 spd - 42,000 mi, fully loaded, silver

03-16-2002, 10:13 PM	#3
ChuckyD Moderator Emeritus Elite Explorer ECX Member Oceanside, NY 03 4Runner SR5 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,866 Vehicle Specs	Be careful with the pentium 4's from dell... they dont use the the rdram (rambus) they use the PC133 P4's are suposed to run at 400mhz bus speed... they have been cutting corners to drop the price to entice people to buy. They made it so it could be used with the older 133mhz ram... just make sure you ask them if it uses RDRAM or pc133! You wouldnt be getting the full potential out of a P4 with that! Bottom Line... Just beware! __________________ ChuckyD's Mugshot and Info.. NEW PICTURE!!!!!!!! 10/02 "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -- William Shakespeare http://www.myspace.com/therealsicilian9

03-17-2002, 10:44 PM	#5
ChuckyD Moderator Emeritus Elite Explorer ECX Member Oceanside, NY 03 4Runner SR5 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,866 Vehicle Specs	How old is your p4? They have also been using some DDR too __________________ ChuckyD's Mugshot and Info.. NEW PICTURE!!!!!!!! 10/02 "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -- William Shakespeare http://www.myspace.com/therealsicilian9

03-18-2002, 10:05 AM	#7
ChuckyD Moderator Emeritus Elite Explorer ECX Member Oceanside, NY 03 4Runner SR5 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,866 Vehicle Specs	The early P4's used rambus.... I forgot who maks rambus, but that company holds a patent for it, so no other company can make.. thats why the price is a little high. To tell what u have do a search for a program called wcpuid Many magazines use that program to do bench tests. It works well! __________________ ChuckyD's Mugshot and Info.. NEW PICTURE!!!!!!!! 10/02 "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -- William Shakespeare http://www.myspace.com/therealsicilian9

03-18-2002, 10:06 AM	#8
ChuckyD Moderator Emeritus Elite Explorer ECX Member Oceanside, NY 03 4Runner SR5 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,866 Vehicle Specs	Update: Rambus holds the patent and samsung makes it... They are the only ones you can get it from. __________________ ChuckyD's Mugshot and Info.. NEW PICTURE!!!!!!!! 10/02 "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -- William Shakespeare http://www.myspace.com/therealsicilian9

03-16-2002, 01:09 PM	#2
Mustangc1923 Wannabe Elite Explorer plano,Tx 94 Explorer sport Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 437 Vehicle Specs	not sure about online but most times you can find the same set at like best buy or so and they will upgrade to a lcd(flat panel) for cheaper than it would be to just straught up buy one

03-18-2002, 12:19 PM	#9
aggieEB Wannabe Elite Explorer Austin, TX '97 EB 4X4 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 170 Vehicle Specs	You are correct, Rambus is made by Samsung. When the new P4s came out, pretty much every PC manufacturer went to Rambus Ram because it is much faster than regular PC133. The problem was that Samsung couldn't meet demands so the price stayed high and the quantity stayed low. Many PC makers broke their deals with samsung and went to different types of Ram which is why Dell is back to PC 133. I have a 8200 I bought in August of 2001 and it has RDRAM. I haven't noticed a big difference between the different types of Ram. I would rather spend $300 to put 512 MB to 1 Gig of SDRAM in my system then 256 MB of RDRAM...but that's just my opinion. __________________ "I'm a rageaholic. I'm addicted to rageahol." --Homer Simpson

03-18-2002, 03:56 PM	#11
espnfreak Wannabe Elite Explorer Elgin, IL '99 Maxima SE-L 5spd Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,820 Vehicle Specs* (Original Poster)	hmm so is this computer a good buy or not? My dad wants to keep this pos 300 mhz computer overloaded with mp3s. it stinks __________________ Mechanical Engineering @ Purdue University 1996 Ford Explorer - TOTALLED Life's A Garden - Dig It '99 Maxima SE-Limited 5 spd - 42,000 mi, fully loaded, silver

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01EB5.0 Elite Explorer Allendale, MI 2001 Eddie Bauer V-8 AWD Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts: 3,705 Vehicle Specs	My buddy upstairs has a dell like we are talking about. he likes the spee ofthe rambus, but is frusturated at the cost of upgrading. he says you gotta do it in pairs and it is expensive. i can get DDR for mine dirt cheap compared to him. personally I think my PC2100 DDR is pretty darn fast. __________________ 2001 Eddie Bauer 5.0L V-8 AWD 152,000 miles...K&N drop-in...P275/70R16 Dueler A/T REVO (second set..first ones lasted 98,000 miles! ), OME rear suspension, TT in front, aletzzas, white gauges, painted interior

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FrankRizzo Elite Explorer Los Angeles, CA 330 XLT Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 965 Vehicle Specs	Dude...........you're gonna get a DELL!!! Sorry, ... Sorry! I should not have done that! __________________ Yeah........I still lurk around here...... =======>Gone, but not forgotten..........<======= click

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01EB5.0 Elite Explorer Allendale, MI 2001 Eddie Bauer V-8 AWD Join Date: Nov 1999 Posts: 3,705 Vehicle Specs	I am the kinda person who builds their own custom systems....thatway it's easy to "tweak" everything (ie: overclock the processor...etc...) plus it's easier to upgrade i the future. __________________ 2001 Eddie Bauer 5.0L V-8 AWD 152,000 miles...K&N drop-in...P275/70R16 Dueler A/T REVO (second set..first ones lasted 98,000 miles! ), OME rear suspension, TT in front, aletzzas, white gauges, painted interior

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id92 Wannabe Elite Explorer Los Angeles, CA 92' Explorer EB Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 176 Vehicle Specs	they will let you upgrade the monitor..i bought my 8200 in november..i customized it after i put in the special they ran in the catalog they sent to my house. i got a 1.8ghz, 128mb rdram, 19" trinitron, geforce 2 64mb card, upgraded to harmon kardon 695 speakers, 40gig hd, 16x burner, 16x dvd, sb live sound card, cheap mouse and queitkey keyboard (already had cordless ones) i paid $1750 got $200 mail in rebate...

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ok89 Wannabe Elite Explorer College Station, TX (school) / Houston, TX (Home) 02 Wrangler X Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,083 Vehicle Specs	yeah i dont like how the big companies cut corners by using some cheap parts. I build my own. I also heard that some of the earlier P4s have a terrible memory leak and that is being sold by Dell. Note: The above is purely hearsay and is in noway meant to be slanderous towards Intel or Dell __________________ Base:2002 Jeep Wrangler X, 4.0L I6, 3.07 gears, 5spd manual tranny, manual t-case. Add-ons:Rubicon Express 2" Budget Boost, Doestch Tech DT-3000 shocks. BFG AT 32x11.50 tires, and other little interior doodads

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ChuckyD Moderator Emeritus Elite Explorer ECX Member Oceanside, NY 03 4Runner SR5 Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,866 Vehicle Specs	i just built a 2.2 ghz P4 w\ intel MOBO 1 gig of RDram 80 Gig 7200 RPM HD Soundblaster 5.1 surround card ATI ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 7500 64 MB DDR AGP Altec Lansing 5.1 surround speakers 32 X Plextor Cdrw Antec Case w\ 400 watt PS All for $1600 Damn that thing is fast!!!! I built it for a guy I work with __________________ ChuckyD's Mugshot and Info.. NEW PICTURE!!!!!!!! 10/02 "We know what we are, but know not what we may be." -- William Shakespeare http://www.myspace.com/therealsicilian9

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espnfreak Wannabe Elite Explorer Elgin, IL '99 Maxima SE-L 5spd Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,820 Vehicle Specs* (Original Poster)	Well we're building one anyways, thanks for the help! __________________ Mechanical Engineering @ Purdue University 1996 Ford Explorer - TOTALLED Life's A Garden - Dig It '99 Maxima SE-Limited 5 spd - 42,000 mi, fully loaded, silver