Please help a newbie...

TimReno · 10-21-2002, 07:07 PM

I have a 93' 5-speed XLT explorer. For graduation, my parents agreed that they would buy me a lift kit, wheels, tires, etc. Basically what ever I need to lift my X. I have been reading lots of posts on gearing and lift kits, but I need all the info in lamen terms.
Here is my question...I don't do much rock-crawling, mostly trail riding, I also want the lift cuz lifted X's look bad-ass. So is the Duff 2.5" stage I lift a good lift for my uses, my parents already said the price was ok. Also, how can I fix the "laggin" rear, will I need new gears for 31 or 32 inch tires (im running 30's now with no power problems), are my stock axles ok?
Please help me, I'd mush rather hear it from you guys who are experts on X's, then my local shop.
Thanks again,
Tim

*TwoToneX* · 10-21-2002, 07:16 PM

Duff lift will work just fine for you. You can also do the shackles/spacers or other things like that to get a little more lift or just use add a leafs for your sagging rear. And you shouldn't have to regear for 31/32's, depending on what gears you have. Search the site for how to figure out what gears you have. If you have at least 3.55's, you should be ok. Even if you have 3.27's (i think that's the ratio, someone correct me if i'm wrong) you would have a little power loss, but nothing too incredibly bad. Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.

TimReno · 10-21-2002, 07:39 PM

I checked my axel code and its 41, but all of the searches I did came up with links to web pages that are no longer up. So does anyone know the ratio for the axel code 41?
Thanks,
Tim

*Okrazie1* · 10-21-2002, 07:44 PM

Axle code 41 is an open 3.27.

*TwoToneX* · 10-21-2002, 07:46 PM

Check out this thread:

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ight=Axle+code

Rob (morrisey) posted that axle code 41 is an open 3.27 axel, so you will notice a power loss, but it shouldn't be too bad. You might think about upgrading to 3.73's or 4.10's, but I'd wait until you have the tires on to see. I have 33's with a 3.55 gear ratio and it's got power loss, but it's manageable.

TimReno · 10-21-2002, 08:41 PM

Thanks, don't know how my search didn't turn that up.
3.27, I can deal with the gears after I get my lift installed. I talked to my parents and they agreed on the duff lift, so could you tell me exactly what parts I will need outside of the kit. Do I need brake lines or anything else? Also where can I get the shackles or add-a-leafs, and can you tell me specifically which ones to buy, I just want my rear to be equal to the front and prevent sagging.
Thanks alot for your help,
Tim

This is alittle off topic, but where can I get OEM pinstriping? Is the dealer the best place, one side of my X was replaced with non Ford parts, and the pinstriping is cracking and doesn't match the rest of car.

*KEbert* · 10-21-2002, 08:58 PM

Hey, I have a JD 2.5" and 31's with 3.55's and a manual tranny. I hate 3.55's. In my opinion, do your gears before you lift. And depending on what kind of driving you do, I would say either 3.73's or 4.10's. If you do a substantial amount of wheeling, get 4.10's. As far as the lift, I love it. And yes you will need longer brake lines.

TimReno · 10-21-2002, 10:06 PM

Gears on Ebay

Would these gears work? Is ebay the best place to get these, remember I'm a newbie, everything you tell me to get, you need to tell me a place to get them from. Where can I get the brake lines, also, what about the shackles or add-a-leaf. Did you need these KEbert to get rid of the sagging?
Thanks,
Tim

*X-1* · 10-22-2002, 02:44 AM

There is a couple of guys selling 3.73's in the for sale section, I would go with that ratio for the type of offroading you have described. That is a moddest upgrade from the gears you have, and will notice improved take off on the road. Duff should be able to help with other parts. Another choice is the 2" skyjacker, that's a pretty common lift around here.

**Maniak** · 10-22-2002, 12:37 PM

To get a complete price (I don't think your parents know what they are getting into

) you need more than just the lift..

You need the Duff Lift
Extended Brake lines
I would replace the rear springs with OME springs isntead of just using the add-a-leaf they give you. You can also add a set of War-153 shackles to give the rear a little higher lift...

Personally I don't like the Duff shocks, I liked the rs9000's better.. (you need new front ones.. but the stock length rears work with the duff lift)..

Do get the gears.. 31" tires with 3.27 isn't fun..

I think thats all the parts you need..

oh yea.. when you get gears.. at a limited slip or locker in the rear (limited slip sounds like the right thing for you since you aren't really wheeling much with it)..

This is a pandora box you are opening.. once your in, your hooked..

~Mark

TimReno · 10-22-2002, 02:49 PM

I did some searching for the "old man emu" springs...
By running the OME springs in the rear that should eliminate sagging, with out using the add-aleafs or shackles, and help the way it drives, right?
These springs will work with the Duff shocks correct?

I don't really understand what you say about the rs9000's. Are you saying I can stick with stock size rs9000 shocks in the back, but I need bigger shocks in the front?
How much different will the rs9000's be from the duff shocks? Is it worth the price difference?
About the limited slip, it just prevents one wheel from slipping out of control, instead it gives power to the other wheel?

Sorry about so many questions, but I dont want to find out all of this after I get everything done.

Thanks again,
Tim

**Maniak** · 10-22-2002, 05:14 PM

Yes the OME springs give you the lift and the benifit of having new springs. This should fix the sag and give you better ride than you did with your old springs.

I was using rs9000 shocks with a stock height explorer and when I put in the Duff lift I had to change Only the front shocks.. The rear shocks (rancho rs9000's) for a stock explorer and 2.5" lifted explorer are the same.

The rs9000's are adjustable shocks when the Duff shocks are 70/30 shocks.. (soft but not boucy).. I didn't like the Duff shocks becuase I don't run sway bars.. If you run sway bars the 70/30 shocks should be ok for you.

To understand limited slip you need to understand how a differential works. A diff works by give power to the wheel with the least amount of traction (as it see it).. This allows you to turn corners etc without any ill affects. (this is overly simplified)... With limite slip the diff uses clutches (or something similar) to limit the amount of slip a tire will have. In other words.. if you had an open differential and you picked up 1 tire and tried to drive the tire in the air would just spin... With limited slip some power (normaly 1/2 or so) will make it to the tire still on the ground to allow you to move.

There are very good articles on the 'net about how differentials, limited slips and lockers work if you want to know the details..

~Mark

TimReno · 10-22-2002, 07:44 PM

Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it.

Heres what my plan is so far...
- JD 2.5" lift
- OME rear *springs*

- 3.73 gears
- Extended brake lines
- Possibly a limited slip dif. (depending on cost)
- Hopefully 32x10.5x16 if they fit, if not 31x10.5x16.

I still dont know about wheels, stock wheels would look kind of ghetto, right? Any suggestions on wheels or pictures of wheels on lifted X's?

**Maniak** · 10-23-2002, 10:48 AM

I'm assuming you meant OME rear springs.. not shocks (the duff kit comes with 4 new shocks.. the 70/30 style)..

31.10.50's on 15" rims will fit (using 3.75 backspacing)..

32"x11.50 tires will hit in a few places.. back of front bumper and back of fenderwell.. and possibly inner fenderwell...

I moved my axle forward slightly by putting in an extra washer (1/8" thick) on the front side of my RA bushings.. and I have a custom front bumper so I won't hit it. Cutting the bumper to make the 32's fit isn't hard..

for rims on our '92 I just used 15" x 8" rims chrome mods (steel).. nothing special.. They cost us <$40 each..

I have over 150k miles on these rims.. and so far I only have 1 bent (I'll change it with my next set of tires.. it won't balance anymore)..

This is the only pic I can find fron the side that shows the truck with the Duff lift (before I modifed it.. this is before the OME springs.. but I did have the War-153 shackles)

I found this one also.. This is a closer view of the rims I use.. I think they look good.. not too fancy.. but better than the stock deer hooves.

~Mark

TimReno · 10-23-2002, 07:28 PM

So the best size wheel is 15x8, or that is the reccomended size? What is the lug pattern, someone told me it was 5 by 5.5" or something, can someone confirm this?

Will I beable to fit 31x11.5x15 on my X with those size wheels?

With 32's will I only rub the front when I turn the wheel all the way and hit a bump or just when the wheel is turned all the way?

**Maniak** · 10-24-2002, 10:51 AM

It is NOT 5 on 5.5.. My Ford Van has that and the rims aren't interchangable (I wish they were).. I believe they are 5 on 4.5

15x8 with a 31.10.50 tire will fit fine.. the 32x11.50 tire will rub when the wheel is turned (not all the way) and you hit any bump (how bad depends on your vehicle)

~Mark

TimReno · 10-26-2002, 08:16 PM

Will 31x11.5x15 fit on the X without rubbing?

dan swedish man · 10-27-2002, 04:55 AM

hey y´all!

sorry for butting in but i´m a newcomer too, and have read this thread with great enthusiasm. (thinking of getting a black -95 Explorer)
if i get an Explorer, i want similar mods and wondered what is NEEDED for 32x11.5r15 BFG A/T ko. (on AR 767s)
was thinking of the easy way out (2-3" body lift)
also what backspacing is preferrable 4", 3.75" or even 4.5"?

thanks!

**Maniak** · 10-27-2002, 08:26 PM

don't know about a 31x11.50.. but a 31x10.50 fit no problem on a 8" rim. I went with 8" becuase I didn't like the 7" stock rim.. and with the 8" rim I could go to tire sizes up to 12.50 before I got too far out of recomended specs... (You normally want the rim slightly smaller than the tread width but not more than 4" smaller... again.. thats recomended. you don't have to do that)

on a 95 X you can do a TT twist with shackle lift and I "think" you can fit 32x11.50 tires on.. Search for TT & Shackles and you will find lots of threads on it.. but if I remember correctly the 95 can fir 31" tires stock.. and 32" with just a twist of the torsion bars and shackles in the rear.

~Mark

TimReno · 11-06-2002, 12:38 AM

I am about to order the lift...but have a few more Q's.

What is the difference between the "progressive" springs that come with the duff lift and OME springs. I am about to order my lift and want to know why the OME springs prevent sagging, and the JD springs dont. Also, could you tell me what the exact model # OME spring I need is, also where did you get them? And why do the front springs not need to be changed, the JD ones work fine up there?

This is a big question----While the X is getting the lift installed, what else should be changed while everything is out, bushings etc.? I have no idea what to buy outside of the JD lift, OME springs, and extended brake lines. I want to know now all of the little things that I need to buy to be safe before the lift is done.

Thanks alot,
Tim

10-21-2002, 07:07 PM	#1
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Please help a newbie... I have a 93' 5-speed XLT explorer. For graduation, my parents agreed that they would buy me a lift kit, wheels, tires, etc. Basically what ever I need to lift my X. I have been reading lots of posts on gearing and lift kits, but I need all the info in lamen terms. Here is my question...I don't do much rock-crawling, mostly trail riding, I also want the lift cuz lifted X's look bad-ass. So is the Duff 2.5" stage I lift a good lift for my uses, my parents already said the price was ok. Also, how can I fix the "laggin" rear, will I need new gears for 31 or 32 inch tires (im running 30's now with no power problems), are my stock axles ok? Please help me, I'd mush rather hear it from you guys who are experts on X's, then my local shop. Thanks again, Tim __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-21-2002, 07:16 PM	#2
TwoToneX my pockets hurt broomfield, co '90 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,531 Vehicle Specs	Duff lift will work just fine for you. You can also do the shackles/spacers or other things like that to get a little more lift or just use add a leafs for your sagging rear. And you shouldn't have to regear for 31/32's, depending on what gears you have. Search the site for how to figure out what gears you have. If you have at least 3.55's, you should be ok. Even if you have 3.27's (i think that's the ratio, someone correct me if i'm wrong) you would have a little power loss, but nothing too incredibly bad. Good luck and let us know what you decide to do. __________________ 6 tire doty '90 XLT 4x4 "Big Ugly" mug "Oh...and go Broncos. Yeah, go Broncos."

10-21-2002, 07:39 PM	#3
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Gears I checked my axel code and its 41, but all of the searches I did came up with links to web pages that are no longer up. So does anyone know the ratio for the axel code 41? Thanks, Tim __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-21-2002, 07:44 PM	#4
Okrazie1 Elite Zoom Zoomer! Newport News, VA '95 Ranger Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 770 Vehicle Specs	Axle code 41 is an open 3.27. __________________ My Explorer (not any more!) and my Ranger My '06 Mazda MX-5 My '08 Harley My '08 Mazda 6

10-21-2002, 07:46 PM	#5
TwoToneX my pockets hurt broomfield, co '90 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,531 Vehicle Specs	Check out this thread: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ight=Axle+code Rob (morrisey) posted that axle code 41 is an open 3.27 axel, so you will notice a power loss, but it shouldn't be too bad. You might think about upgrading to 3.73's or 4.10's, but I'd wait until you have the tires on to see. I have 33's with a 3.55 gear ratio and it's got power loss, but it's manageable. __________________ 6 tire doty '90 XLT 4x4 "Big Ugly" mug "Oh...and go Broncos. Yeah, go Broncos."

10-21-2002, 08:41 PM	#6
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks, don't know how my search didn't turn that up. 3.27, I can deal with the gears after I get my lift installed. I talked to my parents and they agreed on the duff lift, so could you tell me exactly what parts I will need outside of the kit. Do I need brake lines or anything else? Also where can I get the shackles or add-a-leafs, and can you tell me specifically which ones to buy, I just want my rear to be equal to the front and prevent sagging. Thanks alot for your help, Tim This is alittle off topic, but where can I get OEM pinstriping? Is the dealer the best place, one side of my X was replaced with non Ford parts, and the pinstriping is cracking and doesn't match the rest of car. __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-21-2002, 08:58 PM	#7
KEbert Elite Explorer California '91 XLT Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 987 Vehicle Specs	Hey, I have a JD 2.5" and 31's with 3.55's and a manual tranny. I hate 3.55's. In my opinion, do your gears before you lift. And depending on what kind of driving you do, I would say either 3.73's or 4.10's. If you do a substantial amount of wheeling, get 4.10's. As far as the lift, I love it. And yes you will need longer brake lines.

10-21-2002, 10:06 PM	#8
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Gears on Ebay Would these gears work? Is ebay the best place to get these, remember I'm a newbie, everything you tell me to get, you need to tell me a place to get them from. Where can I get the brake lines, also, what about the shackles or add-a-leaf. Did you need these KEbert to get rid of the sagging? Thanks, Tim __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-22-2002, 02:44 AM	#9
X-1 Elite Explorer native Floridian 94 sport Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,684 Vehicle Specs	There is a couple of guys selling 3.73's in the for sale section, I would go with that ratio for the type of offroading you have described. That is a moddest upgrade from the gears you have, and will notice improved take off on the road. Duff should be able to help with other parts. Another choice is the 2" skyjacker, that's a pretty common lift around here. __________________ 94 sport dana 30 sas project on waggy springs.

10-22-2002, 12:37 PM	#10
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,806 Vehicle Specs	To get a complete price (I don't think your parents know what they are getting into ) you need more than just the lift.. You need the Duff Lift Extended Brake lines I would replace the rear springs with OME springs isntead of just using the add-a-leaf they give you. You can also add a set of War-153 shackles to give the rear a little higher lift... Personally I don't like the Duff shocks, I liked the rs9000's better.. (you need new front ones.. but the stock length rears work with the duff lift).. Do get the gears.. 31" tires with 3.27 isn't fun.. I think thats all the parts you need.. oh yea.. when you get gears.. at a limited slip or locker in the rear (limited slip sounds like the right thing for you since you aren't really wheeling much with it).. This is a pandora box you are opening.. once your in, your hooked.. ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

10-22-2002, 02:49 PM	#11
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I did some searching for the "old man emu" springs... By running the OME springs in the rear that should eliminate sagging, with out using the add-aleafs or shackles, and help the way it drives, right? These springs will work with the Duff shocks correct? I don't really understand what you say about the rs9000's. Are you saying I can stick with stock size rs9000 shocks in the back, but I need bigger shocks in the front? How much different will the rs9000's be from the duff shocks? Is it worth the price difference? About the limited slip, it just prevents one wheel from slipping out of control, instead it gives power to the other wheel? Sorry about so many questions, but I dont want to find out all of this after I get everything done. Thanks again, Tim __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-22-2002, 05:14 PM	#12
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,806 Vehicle Specs	Yes the OME springs give you the lift and the benifit of having new springs. This should fix the sag and give you better ride than you did with your old springs. I was using rs9000 shocks with a stock height explorer and when I put in the Duff lift I had to change Only the front shocks.. The rear shocks (rancho rs9000's) for a stock explorer and 2.5" lifted explorer are the same. The rs9000's are adjustable shocks when the Duff shocks are 70/30 shocks.. (soft but not boucy).. I didn't like the Duff shocks becuase I don't run sway bars.. If you run sway bars the 70/30 shocks should be ok for you. To understand limited slip you need to understand how a differential works. A diff works by give power to the wheel with the least amount of traction (as it see it).. This allows you to turn corners etc without any ill affects. (this is overly simplified)... With limite slip the diff uses clutches (or something similar) to limit the amount of slip a tire will have. In other words.. if you had an open differential and you picked up 1 tire and tried to drive the tire in the air would just spin... With limited slip some power (normaly 1/2 or so) will make it to the tire still on the ground to allow you to move. There are very good articles on the 'net about how differentials, limited slips and lockers work if you want to know the details.. ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

10-22-2002, 07:44 PM	#13
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it. Heres what my plan is so far... - JD 2.5" lift - OME rear springs - 3.73 gears - Extended brake lines - Possibly a limited slip dif. (depending on cost) - Hopefully 32x10.5x16 if they fit, if not 31x10.5x16. I still dont know about wheels, stock wheels would look kind of ghetto, right? Any suggestions on wheels or pictures of wheels on lifted X's? __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub Last edited by TimReno; 10-23-2002 at 02:24 PM.

10-23-2002, 10:48 AM	#14
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,806 Vehicle Specs	I'm assuming you meant OME rear springs.. not shocks (the duff kit comes with 4 new shocks.. the 70/30 style).. 31.10.50's on 15" rims will fit (using 3.75 backspacing).. 32"x11.50 tires will hit in a few places.. back of front bumper and back of fenderwell.. and possibly inner fenderwell... I moved my axle forward slightly by putting in an extra washer (1/8" thick) on the front side of my RA bushings.. and I have a custom front bumper so I won't hit it. Cutting the bumper to make the 32's fit isn't hard.. for rims on our '92 I just used 15" x 8" rims chrome mods (steel).. nothing special.. They cost us <$40 each.. I have over 150k miles on these rims.. and so far I only have 1 bent (I'll change it with my next set of tires.. it won't balance anymore).. This is the only pic I can find fron the side that shows the truck with the Duff lift (before I modifed it.. this is before the OME springs.. but I did have the War-153 shackles) I found this one also.. This is a closer view of the rims I use.. I think they look good.. not too fancy.. but better than the stock deer hooves. ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

10-23-2002, 07:28 PM	#15
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	So the best size wheel is 15x8, or that is the reccomended size? What is the lug pattern, someone told me it was 5 by 5.5" or something, can someone confirm this? Will I beable to fit 31x11.5x15 on my X with those size wheels? With 32's will I only rub the front when I turn the wheel all the way and hit a bump or just when the wheel is turned all the way? __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-24-2002, 10:51 AM	#16
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,806 Vehicle Specs	It is NOT 5 on 5.5.. My Ford Van has that and the rims aren't interchangable (I wish they were).. I believe they are 5 on 4.5 15x8 with a 31.10.50 tire will fit fine.. the 32x11.50 tire will rub when the wheel is turned (not all the way) and you hit any bump (how bad depends on your vehicle) ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

10-26-2002, 08:16 PM	#17
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Will 31x11.5x15 fit on the X without rubbing? __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub

10-27-2002, 04:55 AM	#18
dan swedish man Wannabe Elite Explorer malmoe, southern sweden 96 Explorer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 82 Vehicle Specs	hey y´all! sorry for butting in but i´m a newcomer too, and have read this thread with great enthusiasm. (thinking of getting a black -95 Explorer) if i get an Explorer, i want similar mods and wondered what is NEEDED for 32x11.5r15 BFG A/T ko. (on AR 767s) was thinking of the easy way out (2-3" body lift) also what backspacing is preferrable 4", 3.75" or even 4.5"? thanks! __________________ tt & home made shackles 3"BL and 31"s on black steelies best mod - removed pinstripe! Last edited by dan swedish man; 10-27-2002 at 11:38 AM.

10-27-2002, 08:26 PM	#19
Maniak Moderator-Stock 91-94 Vail, Arizona 1992 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 10,806 Vehicle Specs	don't know about a 31x11.50.. but a 31x10.50 fit no problem on a 8" rim. I went with 8" becuase I didn't like the 7" stock rim.. and with the 8" rim I could go to tire sizes up to 12.50 before I got too far out of recomended specs... (You normally want the rim slightly smaller than the tread width but not more than 4" smaller... again.. thats recomended. you don't have to do that) on a 95 X you can do a TT twist with shackle lift and I "think" you can fit 32x11.50 tires on.. Search for TT & Shackles and you will find lots of threads on it.. but if I remember correctly the 95 can fir 31" tires stock.. and 32" with just a twist of the torsion bars and shackles in the rear. ~Mark __________________ Click HERE to see our Explorer Specs

11-06-2002, 12:38 AM	#20
TimReno Wannabe Elite Explorer Reno, NV '93 XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 77 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I am about to order the lift...but have a few more Q's. What is the difference between the "progressive" springs that come with the duff lift and OME springs. I am about to order my lift and want to know why the OME springs prevent sagging, and the JD springs dont. Also, could you tell me what the exact model # OME spring I need is, also where did you get them? And why do the front springs not need to be changed, the JD ones work fine up there? This is a big question----While the X is getting the lift installed, what else should be changed while everything is out, bushings etc.? I have no idea what to buy outside of the JD lift, OME springs, and extended brake lines. I want to know now all of the little things that I need to buy to be safe before the lift is done. Thanks alot, Tim __________________ Black 93' XLT Performance Flowmaster Cat-Back Exaust, KKM True-Rev Induction. Appearance Wolf Front Bra, Smoked Tails Sound Pioneer "Animation" Reciever, Pioneer 3-Way Speakers, Pioneer 300w Amp, Pioneer DVC Sub