Delayed hard shift

m-mjones · 12-07-2002, 11:30 PM

I have a 93 4x4 EB , and the trany was rebuilt about 2 weeks ago. I have since moved it across the country on a trailer, got it of the trailer and now it doesn't want to shift out of first until about 3500 rpm and is late on shifting out of second also. Along with this there has started a little clicking like sound that gets going only when the rpms get high. It does all of this when cold or hot. I have found that if I manually put it in first and shift it out it will do fine, but lags on shifting out of second and still has that little clicking sound. It also has started shifting very hard into reverse. Any ideas?

MJ

Opera House · 12-08-2002, 05:57 PM

if the vacuum line is connected all the way from the engine to the vacuum modulator on the side of the transmission. A leak would cause a late shift in 1 & 2. If second works, the only other compnent is the reverse band and servo piston and you say this was rebuilt. Is a hard shift high rpm then engagement or just a big clunk?

m-mjones · 12-09-2002, 09:49 AM

Thanks for the reply Opera House,

It does engage after it shifts and drives ok, (still has that little clicking sound though). When I make it shift manually it doesn't shift hard, just normally. I have also noticed that if I let it shift by itself it usually shifts out of first at 4000rpm and then will shift out of second normally. When I manually shift it out of first, then it lags shifting out of second, long delay. Also when I put my foot on the brake and put it in reverse, it almost slams it in reverse, (very hard).

Thanks again for you reply,
Mark

DarkFox1 · 12-09-2002, 10:25 AM

hrmm, I'd be interested in knowing what this is.. sounds kinda familiar.. not exactly.. but similar.

m-mjones · 12-11-2002, 09:37 AM

Well the vacum hose had come lose. I put a new hose on and it is running great! The transmission place that rebuilt it didn't put a new hose on it and the old one had been on so long that it would slide off with ease. Thanks for your help Opera House! And a note to any one replaceing the vacum hose: It is located on the pasenger side of the trany and make sure you let your exhaust cool down, as you can't hardly get to it without touching the exhaust. Mine is a 93 and I am told that newer models don't have this vacume, but it is electronic.

MJ

LesBoognish · 04-10-2010, 05:33 PM

I just googled this problem an found this. It sounds like exactly what mines doing so Im gonna check it out. Thanks

12-07-2002, 11:30 PM	#1
m-mjones Wannabe Elite Explorer Billings, MT '93 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Delayed hard shift I have a 93 4x4 EB , and the trany was rebuilt about 2 weeks ago. I have since moved it across the country on a trailer, got it of the trailer and now it doesn't want to shift out of first until about 3500 rpm and is late on shifting out of second also. Along with this there has started a little clicking like sound that gets going only when the rpms get high. It does all of this when cold or hot. I have found that if I manually put it in first and shift it out it will do fine, but lags on shifting out of second and still has that little clicking sound. It also has started shifting very hard into reverse. Any ideas? MJ

12-08-2002, 05:57 PM	#2
Opera House Wannabe Elite Explorer Cincinnati, OH 97 Explorer XLT Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,093 Vehicle Specs	Check to see if the vacuum line is connected all the way from the engine to the vacuum modulator on the side of the transmission. A leak would cause a late shift in 1 & 2. If second works, the only other compnent is the reverse band and servo piston and you say this was rebuilt. Is a hard shift high rpm then engagement or just a big clunk? __________________ Rule #7: Believing and seeing are often both wrong. (FOW) 02, 97, 92 Explorer XLT 4X4 4.0L

12-09-2002, 10:25 AM	#4
DarkFox1 Wannabe Elite Explorer Augusta Georgia '97 Mountaineer Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,474 Vehicle Specs	hrmm, I'd be interested in knowing what this is.. sounds kinda familiar.. not exactly.. but similar. __________________ the 1st mountaineer owner on the forum (that I know of) http://members.sounddomain.com/darkfox1 for my current pictures

04-10-2010, 05:33 PM	#6
LesBoognish Wannabe Elite Explorer Spokane area, WA 93 XL Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3 Vehicle Specs	Nice I just googled this problem an found this. It sounds like exactly what mines doing so Im gonna check it out. Thanks

12-09-2002, 09:49 AM	#3
m-mjones Wannabe Elite Explorer Billings, MT '93 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Thanks for the reply Opera House, It does engage after it shifts and drives ok, (still has that little clicking sound though). When I make it shift manually it doesn't shift hard, just normally. I have also noticed that if I let it shift by itself it usually shifts out of first at 4000rpm and then will shift out of second normally. When I manually shift it out of first, then it lags shifting out of second, long delay. Also when I put my foot on the brake and put it in reverse, it almost slams it in reverse, (very hard). Thanks again for you reply, Mark

12-11-2002, 09:37 AM	#5
m-mjones Wannabe Elite Explorer Billings, MT '93 Eddie Bauer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Well the vacum hose had come lose. I put a new hose on and it is running great! The transmission place that rebuilt it didn't put a new hose on it and the old one had been on so long that it would slide off with ease. Thanks for your help Opera House! And a note to any one replaceing the vacum hose: It is located on the pasenger side of the trany and make sure you let your exhaust cool down, as you can't hardly get to it without touching the exhaust. Mine is a 93 and I am told that newer models don't have this vacume, but it is electronic. MJ