Bullbar for 2nd Gen...

*cdsl227* · 05-04-2003, 09:36 AM

TrailReady makes a killer rear bumper for the Heep Liberty, too bad they can't make it for us cause that rear bumper is the sh!t!!

I already tried to get them to make it for the X, but they said- not happening anytime soon.

Looks like I'm going KMA configured as an air tank with a tire carrier.

becker69 · 05-05-2003, 01:18 AM

Thanks for posting the photos of the CRL one. I like the tube look (not too mention how good it looks on that Ex) but I think the solid metal goes with some body lines better. I still have fitment issues to look at.... guess I'll keep dreaming and sketching

*cdsl227* · 05-05-2003, 10:35 PM

Ok, here's the last batch.

This is the finished bumper, I just have to figure out something to protect the Fairlead Rollers...I'm figuring some type of rubber block on each side, well that or an SAS- that'd put it up out of harms way!

The SRB fogs- S#CK! I'm gonna ditch them for some PIAAs.

And no chuckles about the lights! It's my fetish and I'm gonna feed it!

I have to admit it does look nice.

*William Schumacher* · 05-06-2003, 09:41 AM

Nice ?...
it looks outstanding !!
maybe sometime next week I can get a closer look at the underside of the integrated skid plate !
by the look from your pic,I don't think I would be able to get at my remote oil filters

I really need to see it up close to be able to tell.

Really well done,I like it allot.

*cdsl227* · 05-06-2003, 05:17 PM

No problem...send me an email and I'll respond with my cell number.

I gotta tell you there's quite a bit of room up under there even though the guy that did the welding put some huge plates right on the front of the existing frame mounts, but there is a lot of space.

I'm kinda glad they welded it the way they did- it gave me ideas for my SAS that's going to be happening over the next couple of weeks.

Digger196 · 05-06-2003, 05:33 PM

cdsl227 - you need an alignment! and some muds and that would look so tight! love the bumper! how much was it?

(thread was to long to read all of it)

*cdsl227* · 05-06-2003, 05:49 PM

Total with shipping, winch, 5" PIAAs for the inset area in the front, shackles, plate relocation kit, and customizing for the 3" body lift was $2,200. A bit pricey, but I gotta tell you this though- it's solid as a rock...

To tell you the truth it had an alignment not too long ago and it drives perfectly straight...tires wear evenly also.

That thing always looked funny to me since it was new, it all depends on if the wheels are turned. It gets that funny look to the front end.

I'm going to cure that permanently with an SAS.

So I'm not even sweating it anymore. I used to worry about that, but thanks to all the guys that did SFA swaps- I'm fiending again!

*grtexplorer* · 09-05-2003, 11:21 PM

cdsl227 - so how's the bumper holding up? I've been searching the threads 'cause I'm in the market for one and saw yours. Looks great!

A couple of questions :

1) Although I don't have a lift installed now I probably will in the future. Do I have to wait until I do the lift before ordering the TrailReady?

2) I read where your install wasn't exactly a bolt-on - that you had to have some plates welded. Are these supposed to be a bolt-on? How much of a pain was it to get the bumper completely installed?

Let me know when you can. Many thanks.

*cdsl227* · 09-06-2003, 10:17 PM

If you're doing a body lift you'll have to wait until you decide 2" or 3"- the bumper is custom made to accomodate the body lift.

The bumpers are actually a straight bolt on for the Ranger- I'm figuring their mounts are straight whereas ours are offset- I had some steel plates welded to the front of the frame rails right on the ends where the original mounts are...then punched holes in the plates and bolted up to them. The install is easy if you or someone you know welds.

I'm doing an SAS in about...oh, a month...I keep stalling for more time (money gets funny here and there), but I'm getting the last components of the SAS together...

When I do the SAS I'm going to cut out what was welded there and fabricate something that will push the bumper forward an extra inch since I'm going to be fabricating something to mount spring hangers.

The bumper has held up GREAT- I rearended a Pathfinder (he slammed his brakes, why I don't know), gave him a little twist on his bumper- not even a scratch on mine.

People back into it ALL THE TIME and I do mean ALL THE TIME- I saw one bozo smash his trunk in on the Fairlead Rollers for the winch- needless to say- not a scratch on mine.

It IS ROCK SOLID- I have to say I'm fully impressed with the bumper- best purchase I've made so far.

*grtexplorer* · 09-07-2003, 06:40 AM

Thanks for the info. cdsl227! So I guess if I plan on the Skyjacker 5" lift in the future I had better wait until I get that installed right? The usual story - so much I want to do, not enough funds to do it all at once.

What's an SAS? I've seen the acronym but not the definition.

Thanks again cdsl227 - I really appreciate your input.

becker69 · 09-07-2003, 10:19 AM

Glad to hear it's holding up nicely... it does look like it can take the abuse L.A. or NY parking has to offer

SAS: is short for Solid Axle Swap, see also SOA or Spring over axle...

*grtexplorer* · 09-07-2003, 11:06 AM

Ah, good. Now I know what to look for when I get the $$$. Thanks becker!

*cdsl227* · 09-07-2003, 08:42 PM

A suspension lift has no bearing on the design of the bumper.

ONLY if you are doing a Body Lift will the bumper have to be made custom to take into account the distance the body is raised from the frame. A suspension lift doesn't change the configuration of the body to frame.

If you're only doing a Suspension Lift- then go right ahead and get one.

They build them fully configurable to what you want- one integrated set of fogs, two sets...no rail on top...pretty much any way you want it.

CRL Customs (CoryL is his username on this site) makes some real nice Tube Bumpers...you might want to take a look at those also...he has reasonable pricing too...

JoshC has a nice one on his truck...

05-05-2003, 01:18 AM	#102
becker69 Wannabe Elite Explorer Centennial, CO 01 Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 997 Vehicle Specs	Thanks for posting the photos of the CRL one. I like the tube look (not too mention how good it looks on that Ex) but I think the solid metal goes with some body lines better. I still have fitment issues to look at.... guess I'll keep dreaming and sketching __________________ Douglas. TT/Warriors, 4.10's w/ LS, 32" Grabber AT2---stuff and other things---and--SLIDERS- -Armor to help the LONG wheelbase- POW/MIA YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN

05-06-2003, 09:41 AM	#104
William Schumacher Elite Explorer Yonkers,NY '99 Sport 4X4 Join Date: Feb 1999 Posts: 661 Vehicle Specs	Nice ?... it looks outstanding !! maybe sometime next week I can get a closer look at the underside of the integrated skid plate ! by the look from your pic,I don't think I would be able to get at my remote oil filters I really need to see it up close to be able to tell. Really well done,I like it allot. __________________ Bill RCD 5" coilover Lift & Superlift 4" rear springs /Eaton posi-rear,/Apten Chip,/ dual- remote oil filtration/4.56 Yukon Gears/ 15" Procomp"Black" Wheels and Dick Cepek "FC-II's"/Borla cat-back/KKM /Remote Tranny filter kit with digital temp and volt gauges mounted in a dual pod.

05-06-2003, 05:33 PM	#106
Digger196 Wannabe Elite Explorer Winston-Salem, NC 98 Cherokee Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,548 Vehicle Specs	cdsl227 - you need an alignment! and some muds and that would look so tight! love the bumper! how much was it? (thread was to long to read all of it) __________________ 2006 F-250 CC

09-05-2003, 11:21 PM	#108
grtexplorer Elite Explorer Roswell, GA. '99 XLT Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 65 Vehicle Specs	cdsl227 - so how's the bumper holding up? I've been searching the threads 'cause I'm in the market for one and saw yours. Looks great! A couple of questions : 1) Although I don't have a lift installed now I probably will in the future. Do I have to wait until I do the lift before ordering the TrailReady? 2) I read where your install wasn't exactly a bolt-on - that you had to have some plates welded. Are these supposed to be a bolt-on? How much of a pain was it to get the bumper completely installed? Let me know when you can. Many thanks. __________________ KKM intake, Apten dual-program

09-06-2003, 10:17 PM	#109
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	If you're doing a body lift you'll have to wait until you decide 2" or 3"- the bumper is custom made to accomodate the body lift. The bumpers are actually a straight bolt on for the Ranger- I'm figuring their mounts are straight whereas ours are offset- I had some steel plates welded to the front of the frame rails right on the ends where the original mounts are...then punched holes in the plates and bolted up to them. The install is easy if you or someone you know welds. I'm doing an SAS in about...oh, a month...I keep stalling for more time (money gets funny here and there), but I'm getting the last components of the SAS together... When I do the SAS I'm going to cut out what was welded there and fabricate something that will push the bumper forward an extra inch since I'm going to be fabricating something to mount spring hangers. The bumper has held up GREAT- I rearended a Pathfinder (he slammed his brakes, why I don't know), gave him a little twist on his bumper- not even a scratch on mine. People back into it ALL THE TIME and I do mean ALL THE TIME- I saw one bozo smash his trunk in on the Fairlead Rollers for the winch- needless to say- not a scratch on mine. It IS ROCK SOLID- I have to say I'm fully impressed with the bumper- best purchase I've made so far. __________________ www.monstermachine.com/2001exp/

05-04-2003, 09:36 AM	#101
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	TrailReady makes a killer rear bumper for the Heep Liberty, too bad they can't make it for us cause that rear bumper is the sh!t!! I already tried to get them to make it for the X, but they said- not happening anytime soon. Looks like I'm going KMA configured as an air tank with a tire carrier.

05-05-2003, 10:35 PM	#103
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Ok, here's the last batch. This is the finished bumper, I just have to figure out something to protect the Fairlead Rollers...I'm figuring some type of rubber block on each side, well that or an SAS- that'd put it up out of harms way! The SRB fogs- S#CK! I'm gonna ditch them for some PIAAs. And no chuckles about the lights! It's my fetish and I'm gonna feed it! I have to admit it does look nice.

05-06-2003, 05:17 PM	#105
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	No problem...send me an email and I'll respond with my cell number. I gotta tell you there's quite a bit of room up under there even though the guy that did the welding put some huge plates right on the front of the existing frame mounts, but there is a lot of space. I'm kinda glad they welded it the way they did- it gave me ideas for my SAS that's going to be happening over the next couple of weeks.

05-06-2003, 05:49 PM	#107
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Total with shipping, winch, 5" PIAAs for the inset area in the front, shackles, plate relocation kit, and customizing for the 3" body lift was $2,200. A bit pricey, but I gotta tell you this though- it's solid as a rock... To tell you the truth it had an alignment not too long ago and it drives perfectly straight...tires wear evenly also. That thing always looked funny to me since it was new, it all depends on if the wheels are turned. It gets that funny look to the front end. I'm going to cure that permanently with an SAS. So I'm not even sweating it anymore. I used to worry about that, but thanks to all the guys that did SFA swaps- I'm fiending again!

09-07-2003, 06:40 AM	#110
grtexplorer Elite Explorer Roswell, GA. '99 XLT Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 65 Vehicle Specs	Thanks for the info. cdsl227! So I guess if I plan on the Skyjacker 5" lift in the future I had better wait until I get that installed right? The usual story - so much I want to do, not enough funds to do it all at once. What's an SAS? I've seen the acronym but not the definition. Thanks again cdsl227 - I really appreciate your input. __________________ KKM intake, Apten dual-program

09-07-2003, 10:19 AM	#111
becker69 Wannabe Elite Explorer Centennial, CO 01 Sport Trac Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 997 Vehicle Specs	Glad to hear it's holding up nicely... it does look like it can take the abuse L.A. or NY parking has to offer SAS: is short for Solid Axle Swap, see also SOA or Spring over axle... __________________ Douglas. TT/Warriors, 4.10's w/ LS, 32" Grabber AT2---stuff and other things---and--SLIDERS- -Armor to help the LONG wheelbase- POW/MIA YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN

09-07-2003, 11:06 AM	#112
grtexplorer Elite Explorer Roswell, GA. '99 XLT Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 65 Vehicle Specs	Ah, good. Now I know what to look for when I get the $$$. Thanks becker! __________________ KKM intake, Apten dual-program

09-07-2003, 08:42 PM	#113
cdsl227 Elite Explorer Brooklyn, NY 2001 Explorer XLT Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,349 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	A suspension lift has no bearing on the design of the bumper. ONLY if you are doing a Body Lift will the bumper have to be made custom to take into account the distance the body is raised from the frame. A suspension lift doesn't change the configuration of the body to frame. If you're only doing a Suspension Lift- then go right ahead and get one. They build them fully configurable to what you want- one integrated set of fogs, two sets...no rail on top...pretty much any way you want it. CRL Customs (CoryL is his username on this site) makes some real nice Tube Bumpers...you might want to take a look at those also...he has reasonable pricing too... JoshC has a nice one on his truck... __________________ www.monstermachine.com/2001exp/