Its here - Electric Cooling Fan install

SilverBullet · 01-27-2005, 07:52 AM

Would it possible to have two fans? one on the inside, one on the outside of the radiator?

aldive · 01-27-2005, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Would it possible to have two fans? one on the inside, one on the outside of the radiator?

Yes it is possible depending on the fans ( a "pusher" and a "puller" ) selected ( due to fit ). However, I really do not see a need for that type of a setup.

racinjason68 · 01-28-2005, 04:56 PM

I think also it is good to keep in mind that a good clean cooling system helps a good amount along with the correct antifreeze and water mixture... I have a V-6 with dual fans and use the smaller pusher as a a/c only fan....

*Rhett* · 06-15-2005, 06:19 PM

I was looking at the new 180 Flex-a-Lite fan (http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html...c_x-treme.html) and I wonder if this fan shroud that it comes with would be as efficient as the stock fan shroud.

I have found the OEM fan shroud to be very effective.

If that is the case, then I could use a Syclone S-blade fan (which does not come with a shroud) and keep the OEM shroud.

I *WILL NOT* mount a fan "in-core". I will always use brackets.

spindlecone · 06-15-2005, 06:41 PM

Would think it depends on how coverage you get over the core with the 180 shroud.
On mine I have zero core exposed top and bottom,one inch on the sides exposed

RickOTR · 06-16-2005, 07:24 AM

It would be easier to install an electric fan from a crown victoria as the radiator dementions are the same as the explorer. The CV fan also flows 4800 cfm compared to the black magics 2800 cfm. Both draw 10 amps.

*huskyfan23* · 06-16-2005, 01:25 PM

What size is the shroud though? Not sure if it's the same fan as in the Mark VIII, but I had a Mark fan and there wasn't enough clearance.

*CDW6212R* · 06-16-2005, 02:55 PM

Interesting, because the Crown Vics have both an electric fan, and a mechanical fan. I wonder if the CV fan will fit a 99 Explorer?

RickOTR · 06-16-2005, 07:15 PM

This is the electic fan and I have it installed in my X. Almost one year and no problems so far. It is a direct bolt on.

n3m3s1s · 06-16-2005, 08:19 PM

have any pics rick?
what year crown vic? did you just buy one from a junk yard?
how hard was the wiring and setting up the temp sensor?

*Lloyd10977* · 06-16-2005, 11:43 PM

RickOTR, do you have a fan from a Crown Vic installed? What additional parts did you need?

I have been searching for a fan from a 96-98 Crown Vic or Grand Marquis but as yet have not come across one that was not severely damaged.

RickOTR · 06-17-2005, 08:10 PM

The fan I have is from a 1996 CV police intercepter that I found in a junk yard. You may have to look really good, that is what I had to do. Lincoln and Crown Victoria have different radiator supports so it will not work. Also check out E-Bay a I have seen a few on there site. Sorry no pics.

*Lloyd10977* · 06-18-2005, 02:05 AM

Shouldn't the equipment be the same on the Mercury Grand Marquis?

*CDW6212R* · 06-18-2005, 12:24 PM

Yes, but check, the police car may have a better fan than all others. How thick are those CV fans? Where did the ten ampere draw figure come from? Most decent aftermarket fans pull at least fifteen amps.

airjeff · 07-06-2005, 10:05 PM

Anybody put an electric fan on their 3rd gen with a 4.6? Just wondering what is out there and what is working for people.

aldive · 07-08-2005, 04:07 PM

My Black Magic Fan once again proved that it can indeed cut the mustard a few days ago.

On a trip yo Atlanta, I got stuck in traffic about 20 miles S of the airport on I75. It was bumper to bumper for 15 miles at virtually 0 MPH. I was in this mess for 1 1/2 hours.

The ambient temperature ( counting road heat, etc ) was 124 F.

The tranny fluid temp rose to a max of 201 F. The temperature gauger on the truck never moved. The AC never ceased to cool.

My Black Magic 150 fan again proved it was up to the task.

spindlecone · 07-08-2005, 04:13 PM

150 do's indeed work, is just so friggen noisy compared to the 180

*Lloyd10977* · 07-08-2005, 11:20 PM

Excellent update, Aldive. That pretty much proves its worth.

*huskyfan23* · 07-09-2005, 02:17 AM

Is the 150 the same fan Rick used? It makes no sense how it works great in 123 degree weather w/ A/C on, but it didn't work on a few other X's that tried it.

aldive · 07-09-2005, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by huskyfan23

Is the 150 the same fan Rick used? It makes no sense how it works great in 123 degree weather w/ A/C on, but it didn't work on a few other X's that tried it.

I have no clue, but I too find it strange that others have not been successful.

01-28-2005, 04:56 PM	#83
racinjason68 Wannabe Elite Explorer 2003 Limited V8 AWD '91XLT '92EB4x '96V8 2wd Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 727 Vehicle Specs	I think also it is good to keep in mind that a good clean cooling system helps a good amount along with the correct antifreeze and water mixture... I have a V-6 with dual fans and use the smaller pusher as a a/c only fan.... __________________ DD is '05 Screw F150 - '03 AWD V8 Limited Explorer '79 Ford Bronco on 36" TSL's My '66 Stang... SOLD - My '91 and others... SOLD - My 96... V8 2wd, lowered SOLD - Lifted '92 EB...4x4, Warn,KKM,32's

06-15-2005, 06:19 PM	#84
Rhett Let Them Eat Cake Cape Girardeau, MO 94 Sport 4x4 Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 4,230 Vehicle Specs	I was looking at the new 180 Flex-a-Lite fan (http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html...c_x-treme.html) and I wonder if this fan shroud that it comes with would be as efficient as the stock fan shroud. I have found the OEM fan shroud to be very effective. If that is the case, then I could use a Syclone S-blade fan (which does not come with a shroud) and keep the OEM shroud. I WILL NOT mount a fan "in-core". I will always use brackets. __________________ 94 Sport 4x4; EA cone filter; Granitelli MAF; BBK 66mm TB; Jacobs wires; Magnaflow w/2.5" pipe; Rancho RS9000; EE sways; Apten dual-program chip; Visteon Super-Cool radiator; BFG 30 x 9.50's; AMSOIL throughout; etc. etc.

06-16-2005, 07:24 AM	#86
RickOTR Wannabe Elite Explorer CA 1997 Explorer Sport 4X4 Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 641 Vehicle Specs	It would be easier to install an electric fan from a crown victoria as the radiator dementions are the same as the explorer. The CV fan also flows 4800 cfm compared to the black magics 2800 cfm. Both draw 10 amps. __________________ 1997 Ford Explorer Sport: Over 500,000 miles and still going See my CarDomian for details on my Explorer http://www.cardomain.com/ride/666173 2007 Ford GT40: 2007 Lincoln MKX

06-16-2005, 01:25 PM	#87
huskyfan23 Rah no Hans Bwix WA 1994 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,896 Vehicle Specs	What size is the shroud though? Not sure if it's the same fan as in the Mark VIII, but I had a Mark fan and there wasn't enough clearance. __________________ 1994 Explorer XLT My registry entry: here Diamond Everything w/ HID Bi-Xenon Projectors I'm no doctor, but I am a self-proclaimed genius. There's no reason not to trust me. What kind of dessert causes women to gain the most weight? Wedding cake

06-16-2005, 02:55 PM	#88
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,949 Vehicle Specs	Interesting, because the Crown Vics have both an electric fan, and a mechanical fan. I wonder if the CV fan will fit a 99 Explorer? __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

01-27-2005, 07:52 AM	#81
SilverBullet Wannabe Elite Explorer Tulsa, OK 2001 Eddie Bauer AWD 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 435 Vehicle Specs	Would it possible to have two fans? one on the inside, one on the outside of the radiator?

06-15-2005, 06:41 PM	#85
spindlecone B San Jose, Calif 2003 sport trac Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,921 Vehicle Specs	Would think it depends on how coverage you get over the core with the 180 shroud. On mine I have zero core exposed top and bottom,one inch on the sides exposed

06-16-2005, 07:15 PM	#89
RickOTR Wannabe Elite Explorer CA 1997 Explorer Sport 4X4 Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 641 Vehicle Specs	This is the electic fan and I have it installed in my X. Almost one year and no problems so far. It is a direct bolt on. __________________ 1997 Ford Explorer Sport: Over 500,000 miles and still going See my CarDomian for details on my Explorer http://www.cardomain.com/ride/666173 2007 Ford GT40: 2007 Lincoln MKX

06-16-2005, 08:19 PM	#90
n3m3s1s Wannabe Elite Explorer Dallas,Tx '04 Aviator 32v V8 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 390 Vehicle Specs	have any pics rick? what year crown vic? did you just buy one from a junk yard? how hard was the wiring and setting up the temp sensor?

06-16-2005, 11:43 PM	#91
Lloyd10977 Elite Explorer Chestnut Ridge NY 1995 Limited Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498 Vehicle Specs	RickOTR, do you have a fan from a Crown Vic installed? What additional parts did you need? I have been searching for a fan from a 96-98 Crown Vic or Grand Marquis but as yet have not come across one that was not severely damaged. __________________ Black , street stock, 1995 Ford Explorer Limited, 4.0L-OHV V6 with AirHog filter, iridium spark plugs w/Taylor wires, 4dr, auto w/tow package and 3.73 Traction-Lok rear, 4WD, 4 wheel disk brakes with ABS, with tan leather, sunroof and engine block heater, made in Canada. Rear leaf springs from a '78 Bronco 3" wide spring pack added to the stock 2.5" wide main spring, 1.2" lift.

06-17-2005, 08:10 PM	#92
RickOTR Wannabe Elite Explorer CA 1997 Explorer Sport 4X4 Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 641 Vehicle Specs	The fan I have is from a 1996 CV police intercepter that I found in a junk yard. You may have to look really good, that is what I had to do. Lincoln and Crown Victoria have different radiator supports so it will not work. Also check out E-Bay a I have seen a few on there site. Sorry no pics. __________________ 1997 Ford Explorer Sport: Over 500,000 miles and still going See my CarDomian for details on my Explorer http://www.cardomain.com/ride/666173 2007 Ford GT40: 2007 Lincoln MKX

06-18-2005, 02:05 AM	#93
Lloyd10977 Elite Explorer Chestnut Ridge NY 1995 Limited Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498 Vehicle Specs	Shouldn't the equipment be the same on the Mercury Grand Marquis? __________________ Black , street stock, 1995 Ford Explorer Limited, 4.0L-OHV V6 with AirHog filter, iridium spark plugs w/Taylor wires, 4dr, auto w/tow package and 3.73 Traction-Lok rear, 4WD, 4 wheel disk brakes with ABS, with tan leather, sunroof and engine block heater, made in Canada. Rear leaf springs from a '78 Bronco 3" wide spring pack added to the stock 2.5" wide main spring, 1.2" lift.

06-18-2005, 12:24 PM	#94
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,949 Vehicle Specs	Yes, but check, the police car may have a better fan than all others. How thick are those CV fans? Where did the ten ampere draw figure come from? Most decent aftermarket fans pull at least fifteen amps. __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

07-06-2005, 10:05 PM	#95
airjeff Wannabe Elite Explorer White Bear Lake, MN '04 Eddie Bauer 4.6 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18 Vehicle Specs	Anybody put an electric fan on their 3rd gen with a 4.6? Just wondering what is out there and what is working for people.

07-08-2005, 04:07 PM	#96
aldive Elite In Memoriam 1999 XLT Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 25,271 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	My Black Magic Fan once again proved that it can indeed cut the mustard a few days ago. On a trip yo Atlanta, I got stuck in traffic about 20 miles S of the airport on I75. It was bumper to bumper for 15 miles at virtually 0 MPH. I was in this mess for 1 1/2 hours. The ambient temperature ( counting road heat, etc ) was 124 F. The tranny fluid temp rose to a max of 201 F. The temperature gauger on the truck never moved. The AC never ceased to cool. My Black Magic 150 fan again proved it was up to the task. __________________ Al Franklin My truck My Quest for 30 RIP Al Franklin! 1947-2010. Gone but not forgotten! :(

07-08-2005, 04:13 PM	#97
spindlecone B San Jose, Calif 2003 sport trac Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,921 Vehicle Specs	150 do's indeed work, is just so friggen noisy compared to the 180

07-08-2005, 11:20 PM	#98
Lloyd10977 Elite Explorer Chestnut Ridge NY 1995 Limited Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 498 Vehicle Specs	Excellent update, Aldive. That pretty much proves its worth. __________________ Black , street stock, 1995 Ford Explorer Limited, 4.0L-OHV V6 with AirHog filter, iridium spark plugs w/Taylor wires, 4dr, auto w/tow package and 3.73 Traction-Lok rear, 4WD, 4 wheel disk brakes with ABS, with tan leather, sunroof and engine block heater, made in Canada. Rear leaf springs from a '78 Bronco 3" wide spring pack added to the stock 2.5" wide main spring, 1.2" lift.

07-09-2005, 02:17 AM	#99
huskyfan23 Rah no Hans Bwix WA 1994 XLT 4x4 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,896 Vehicle Specs	Is the 150 the same fan Rick used? It makes no sense how it works great in 123 degree weather w/ A/C on, but it didn't work on a few other X's that tried it. __________________ 1994 Explorer XLT My registry entry: here Diamond Everything w/ HID Bi-Xenon Projectors I'm no doctor, but I am a self-proclaimed genius. There's no reason not to trust me. What kind of dessert causes women to gain the most weight? Wedding cake