Oops, Explorer swimming.

*GaSouthern1* · 11-10-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by hydroxy
I have a question.. what on earth was the chainsaw noise in the background all about?!

Sounds like a bunch of hondas revving.

THat is a cool ass video, not many people can say that they almost rolled, hydrolocked, broke a tie rod and flooded their car all in 20 minutes, very impressive. You really have some balls to do that.

*Byrd91* · 11-10-2003, 05:14 PM

Just got this sent to me by one of the guys that was with me.

410Fortune · 11-10-2003, 05:40 PM

hahaha the stereo is on?? I bet that door speaker sounded great!!

*DasFrem* · 11-10-2003, 09:24 PM

Great video, but where's the weight bags on that winch line?????

*Byrd91* · 11-10-2003, 09:38 PM

Wasn't even a tough pull for the winch, normally we have something on the line but this time we didn't bother. Yeah, I didn't notice that the radio was on. Volume was down, but luckily the speaker wasn't under water.

addkev · 11-10-2003, 11:35 PM

That's awesome, way to go!

BensBud · 11-11-2003, 06:58 AM

Non-hardcore-offroader question: "weight bags on the winch line"? Sounds like a safety thing. Can someone explain? I heard someone in the video wondering if they could toss a shirt on the cable, I assumed that was so it would show up in the video....

*Byrd91* · 11-11-2003, 08:00 AM

Yeah, its a safety thing. If the cable breaks the sandbag, or jacket, or whatever is on the cable will absorb some of the energy stored in the cable so it won't travel as far.

*BenS* · 11-11-2003, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by BensBud
Non-hardcore-offroader question: "weight bags on the winch line"? Sounds like a safety thing. Can someone explain? I heard someone in the video wondering if they could toss a shirt on the cable, I assumed that was so it would show up in the video....

Harry Lewellyn explains this the best:

"Tightly stretched things of any sort can be deadly … if they break or come loose! How about a few wakeup horror stories of unknown origin? There's the one about the strap with a metal hook that broke loose from its attach point. The hook came through the pickup's back window and killed the driver with a blow to the back of his head. Same story, but this time through the windshield, with a trailer ball, in the face! Different strap, spectator too close, strap cuts off legs. Another version except this time it's the onlooker's head! Think of everything you use to attach two vehicles together for towing or tugging as howitzer-size slingshots!"

Draping something like a shirt/towel over the line is supposed to lessen or eliminate the ability of the line to whip around after it breaks loose.

Always remember the danger zone:

BensBud · 11-11-2003, 10:40 AM

I'm surprised a shirt or towel has enough mass to be effective as a damper. I guess every little bit helps. ...or does a flapping towel / shirt have a significant parachute-type effect? I assume you would want to hang a couple / few on the line or cable to add to the chances that something goes with the cable in each direction if it breaks?

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread...

*BenS* · 11-11-2003, 11:36 AM

The point is to put something that will put downward force on the line but will not potentially become an additional hazard. I've never had a chance to see the effects of this, but I've seen it done and read about it as an accepted practice.

Getting back to topic, boy do you have some balls taking that bog on with AT tires and no lockers! Pretty amazing that you were still able to maneuver that much. Do you know of others who have successfully taken that line or were you just having a wild moment?

*GaSouthern1* · 11-11-2003, 11:55 AM

It is even better if the shits/towels whatever are soaking wet, that gives them a little added weight.

*Nick26* · 11-11-2003, 12:42 PM

you know there are easier ways to re-fill your blinker fluid you know

j/k thats looks awesome, i would like to try sh!t like that that with my truck someday if only it weren't my daily driver.

BensBud · 11-11-2003, 12:52 PM

Thanks for the shirt / towel info.

Back on topic - I was thinking about that long video on my way home last night... I think I'd not just be concerned about the fluids. The truck looks pretty stock, I'd bet you did a thorough job of rinsing out the wheel bearings. If they're not making any noise (yet), I'd be tempted to repack those puppies ASAP.

*Webster3* · 11-11-2003, 01:11 PM

I'm curious on the wheel bearing thing... is there some way to keep that from happening when going through deep water? I wasn't aware that washing out the bearings was a big risk.

Ed

*BenS* · 11-11-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by GaSouthern1
It is even better if the shits/towels whatever are soaking wet, that gives them a little added weight.

I have to agree, I'm a big fan of wet t-shirts. PS, watch your mouth

410Fortune · 11-11-2003, 01:24 PM

Water will get in your hubs and wheel bearings anytime you cross water like this, or even in rain and snow, etc...

Your best bet is to make it routine maint to re-pack the front wheel bearings, replace the grease seals, re-lube the brake caliper slide pins, and clean the hubs about once a year. More often the larger your tires.

Also anytime I get back from a wheeling trip, like to Moab for a few days, or deep water forging, sand whatever, I will re-do the bearings....

This will ensure a long life for the bearing, the correct load on the spindle nuts (bearings torque) and its a good way to keep up on the condition of your brake parts and hubs....

Anytime your Ex gets in water THAT deep it is imparative that you check/change all the fluids both diffs, tranny, oil, and t case. re-lube is not a bad idea either....
You shouldnt be going into water that deep unless your truck is prepared for it. Extended breathers, waterproofed computer(s), and a custom air intake etc can make life much easier....

*Byrd91* · 11-11-2003, 01:41 PM

410 made some excellent points in the previous post and I hope everyone considers them before attempting anything even half as deep as what that stream turned out to be. I have extended breather tubes, knew that both my intake and computer would be safe as the drivers side was obviously deeper, and routinely check/repack fluids and wheel bearings. I don't want this to be a situation of a kid/ unknowing person taking their vehicle through a big puddle and not being prepared for the outcome.

*Webster3* · 11-11-2003, 02:07 PM

I've not really seen this... and I even posted once asking... but it would be great if someone could do a comprehensive waterproofing thread.

One that would include everything you should do to protect an Explorer from water all in a single thread. If there is one and I haven't found it please direct me... otherwise I'll start one if we can get all you experts to post the goods

Ed

Pheonixx77 · 11-11-2003, 09:36 PM

hey where did u get that brushguard? do they make em for 94's?

11-10-2003, 05:14 PM	#62
Byrd91 Elite Explorer Penobscot, Maine '92 XLT Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 1,013 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Just got this sent to me by one of the guys that was with me. __________________ '99 Mazda B4000 SE 4x4 "new" '92 XLT 4x4 4.0L V6 KKM True Rev Induction ~ Flowmaster Force II Cat-back w/ 40 Series non-Delta 4" hybrid lift with extended radius arms ~ SOA rear ~ 33x10.5" BFG All Terrian

11-10-2003, 05:40 PM	#63
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,097 Vehicle Specs	hahaha the stereo is on?? I bet that door speaker sounded great!! __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

11-10-2003, 09:24 PM	#64
DasFrem Elite Poseur Memphis, TN 2 '97 sports Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 1,063 Vehicle Specs	Great video, but where's the weight bags on that winch line????? __________________ Matt Fremstad 1997 Explorer Sport 4x2, 3.73LS, 5 speed, lowered 2" (SOLD) 1997 Explorer Sport 4x4 4.56s, 5 speed, Detroit locked rear, 35" MTs, Man T-Case (SOLD) 2006 Subaru Outback (WRECKED) 1992 Schwinn, the only ride of mine that works.

11-10-2003, 09:38 PM	#65
Byrd91 Elite Explorer Penobscot, Maine '92 XLT Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 1,013 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Wasn't even a tough pull for the winch, normally we have something on the line but this time we didn't bother. Yeah, I didn't notice that the radio was on. Volume was down, but luckily the speaker wasn't under water. __________________ '99 Mazda B4000 SE 4x4 "new" '92 XLT 4x4 4.0L V6 KKM True Rev Induction ~ Flowmaster Force II Cat-back w/ 40 Series non-Delta 4" hybrid lift with extended radius arms ~ SOA rear ~ 33x10.5" BFG All Terrian

11-10-2003, 11:35 PM	#66
addkev Wannabe Elite Explorer Eastern NC '11 Explorer Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 1,080 Vehicle Specs	That's awesome, way to go! __________________ -Kevin - 2011 Explorer XLT / 2010 Taurus SHO

11-11-2003, 06:58 AM	#67
BensBud Wannabe Elite Explorer Boston Area, MA '98 XLT Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 54 Vehicle Specs	Non-hardcore-offroader question: "weight bags on the winch line"? Sounds like a safety thing. Can someone explain? I heard someone in the video wondering if they could toss a shirt on the cable, I assumed that was so it would show up in the video.... __________________ '98 XLT (Stock) 5spd Auto-OD / 3.55 rear / 4L 6Cyl SOHC. Does well with a large 2-horse trailer with just my guy aboard. The X is not big enough to safely pull the trailer with buddies. Love this truck, but seriously considering a full sized diesel pickup...

11-11-2003, 08:00 AM	#68
Byrd91 Elite Explorer Penobscot, Maine '92 XLT Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 1,013 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Yeah, its a safety thing. If the cable breaks the sandbag, or jacket, or whatever is on the cable will absorb some of the energy stored in the cable so it won't travel as far. __________________ '99 Mazda B4000 SE 4x4 "new" '92 XLT 4x4 4.0L V6 KKM True Rev Induction ~ Flowmaster Force II Cat-back w/ 40 Series non-Delta 4" hybrid lift with extended radius arms ~ SOA rear ~ 33x10.5" BFG All Terrian

11-11-2003, 10:40 AM	#70
BensBud Wannabe Elite Explorer Boston Area, MA '98 XLT Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 54 Vehicle Specs	I'm surprised a shirt or towel has enough mass to be effective as a damper. I guess every little bit helps. ...or does a flapping towel / shirt have a significant parachute-type effect? I assume you would want to hang a couple / few on the line or cable to add to the chances that something goes with the cable in each direction if it breaks? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread... __________________ '98 XLT (Stock) 5spd Auto-OD / 3.55 rear / 4L 6Cyl SOHC. Does well with a large 2-horse trailer with just my guy aboard. The X is not big enough to safely pull the trailer with buddies. Love this truck, but seriously considering a full sized diesel pickup...

11-11-2003, 11:36 AM	#71
BenS Golden Monkey Addict Mohnton, PA 1997 Explorer Sport Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 536 Vehicle Specs	The point is to put something that will put downward force on the line but will not potentially become an additional hazard. I've never had a chance to see the effects of this, but I've seen it done and read about it as an accepted practice. Getting back to topic, boy do you have some balls taking that bog on with AT tires and no lockers! Pretty amazing that you were still able to maneuver that much. Do you know of others who have successfully taken that line or were you just having a wild moment? __________________ Lifted, Locked, 36's.

11-11-2003, 11:55 AM	#72
GaSouthern1 Elite LS2 - Duluth, Ga 2005 GTO Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,055 Vehicle Specs	It is even better if the shits/towels whatever are soaking wet, that gives them a little added weight.

11-11-2003, 12:42 PM	#73
Nick26 Elite Explorer Cumberland, RI 98' 5.0 XLT Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,191 Vehicle Specs	you know there are easier ways to re-fill your blinker fluid you know j/k thats looks awesome, i would like to try sh!t like that that with my truck someday if only it weren't my daily driver. __________________ First 2nd gen 5 Speed Manual V8 4WD Explorer! SOA & 3" Front Body Lift BW 1354 Manual T-Case swap Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch, M5OD disassembly and re-assembly

11-11-2003, 12:52 PM	#74
BensBud Wannabe Elite Explorer Boston Area, MA '98 XLT Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 54 Vehicle Specs	Thanks for the shirt / towel info. Back on topic - I was thinking about that long video on my way home last night... I think I'd not just be concerned about the fluids. The truck looks pretty stock, I'd bet you did a thorough job of rinsing out the wheel bearings. If they're not making any noise (yet), I'd be tempted to repack those puppies ASAP. __________________ '98 XLT (Stock) 5spd Auto-OD / 3.55 rear / 4L 6Cyl SOHC. Does well with a large 2-horse trailer with just my guy aboard. The X is not big enough to safely pull the trailer with buddies. Love this truck, but seriously considering a full sized diesel pickup...

11-11-2003, 01:11 PM	#75
Webster3 Mr. Ed Atco, NJ '94 Sport Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 648 Vehicle Specs	I'm curious on the wheel bearing thing... is there some way to keep that from happening when going through deep water? I wasn't aware that washing out the bearings was a big risk. Ed __________________ 1994 Sport - 4" Skyjacker Lift, 32" BFG A/T KO on 15x8 AR767's FOR SALE - Reduced to $2999 Click Here!

11-11-2003, 01:24 PM	#77
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,097 Vehicle Specs	Water will get in your hubs and wheel bearings anytime you cross water like this, or even in rain and snow, etc... Your best bet is to make it routine maint to re-pack the front wheel bearings, replace the grease seals, re-lube the brake caliper slide pins, and clean the hubs about once a year. More often the larger your tires. Also anytime I get back from a wheeling trip, like to Moab for a few days, or deep water forging, sand whatever, I will re-do the bearings.... This will ensure a long life for the bearing, the correct load on the spindle nuts (bearings torque) and its a good way to keep up on the condition of your brake parts and hubs.... Anytime your Ex gets in water THAT deep it is imparative that you check/change all the fluids both diffs, tranny, oil, and t case. re-lube is not a bad idea either.... You shouldnt be going into water that deep unless your truck is prepared for it. Extended breathers, waterproofed computer(s), and a custom air intake etc can make life much easier.... __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

11-11-2003, 01:41 PM	#78
Byrd91 Elite Explorer Penobscot, Maine '92 XLT Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 1,013 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	410 made some excellent points in the previous post and I hope everyone considers them before attempting anything even half as deep as what that stream turned out to be. I have extended breather tubes, knew that both my intake and computer would be safe as the drivers side was obviously deeper, and routinely check/repack fluids and wheel bearings. I don't want this to be a situation of a kid/ unknowing person taking their vehicle through a big puddle and not being prepared for the outcome. __________________ '99 Mazda B4000 SE 4x4 "new" '92 XLT 4x4 4.0L V6 KKM True Rev Induction ~ Flowmaster Force II Cat-back w/ 40 Series non-Delta 4" hybrid lift with extended radius arms ~ SOA rear ~ 33x10.5" BFG All Terrian

11-11-2003, 02:07 PM	#79
Webster3 Mr. Ed Atco, NJ '94 Sport Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 648 Vehicle Specs	I've not really seen this... and I even posted once asking... but it would be great if someone could do a comprehensive waterproofing thread. One that would include everything you should do to protect an Explorer from water all in a single thread. If there is one and I haven't found it please direct me... otherwise I'll start one if we can get all you experts to post the goods Ed __________________ 1994 Sport - 4" Skyjacker Lift, 32" BFG A/T KO on 15x8 AR767's FOR SALE - Reduced to $2999 Click Here!

11-11-2003, 09:36 PM	#80
Pheonixx77 Wannabe Elite Explorer NY 02 sport trac Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 583 Vehicle Specs	hey where did u get that brushguard? do they make em for 94's? __________________