natenkiki2004
Blue Bomb!
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- 1991 & 1994 Explorers
In that case, I'm glad you took the right precautions regarding battery hookup.
Ok, key in vs key out in that case... does absolutely nothing. The only thing that happens when you insert the key is the chime circuit is closed and you'll get the chime sound when you open the door with the key in. That's it. It has no bearing on any other electrical system at all. It's only when you turn the key that circuits become activated.
It's good that everything looked fine, in a way. You need to test the relays. You saw the video on how to do that. You can also wait another day or two for my relays to arrive and simply swap them out to see if that makes a difference. In the mean time, you can do what you did today, take it all apart and hook up the battery again. This time, move the relays around. If they turn on/off, you definitely have wiring issues still, it may be broken contacts in the connector itself or still a physically & internally broken relay.
The only time you should start looking at the TPS and other sensors is when you can reliably pull codes/run the KOER test from the computer AND have no more of these phantom issues like the punch test or the dieseling. Then and only then can you start looking at other issues. Again, it means absolutely nothing to test sensors if the computer isn't behaving properly. It's like trying to switch around HDMI cables on your TV when the screen is broken. It'll make slight differences but ultimately it won't fix anything.
Ok, key in vs key out in that case... does absolutely nothing. The only thing that happens when you insert the key is the chime circuit is closed and you'll get the chime sound when you open the door with the key in. That's it. It has no bearing on any other electrical system at all. It's only when you turn the key that circuits become activated.
It's good that everything looked fine, in a way. You need to test the relays. You saw the video on how to do that. You can also wait another day or two for my relays to arrive and simply swap them out to see if that makes a difference. In the mean time, you can do what you did today, take it all apart and hook up the battery again. This time, move the relays around. If they turn on/off, you definitely have wiring issues still, it may be broken contacts in the connector itself or still a physically & internally broken relay.
The only time you should start looking at the TPS and other sensors is when you can reliably pull codes/run the KOER test from the computer AND have no more of these phantom issues like the punch test or the dieseling. Then and only then can you start looking at other issues. Again, it means absolutely nothing to test sensors if the computer isn't behaving properly. It's like trying to switch around HDMI cables on your TV when the screen is broken. It'll make slight differences but ultimately it won't fix anything.