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Terrain Management / AdvanceTrac System Errors

So my 2012 explorer just lit up. Terrain management stopped working, traction control stopped and service advancetrac kept popping up on dash.
No codes and my battery and alternator are fine.
Now it's gone and everything is fine after I let it sit for a few minutes.
Should I be worried?
Your thread was merged with this one found using the Forum's "search' feature. There are a few more threads on similar issues.

Peter
 



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My 2012 Has been getting the Terrain Management System fault quite a bit latley- was there ever a recall or anything done about this? Seems as those this is a pretty common issue, Cycling the key works at times, others the vehicle must sit for a bit. HELP PLEASE!!!!
 






Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
I believe that the fault is an indication that something is failing. There is no Recall since they are only issued for safety-related items. I don't believe anything else was issued either unless it is mentioned in this thread.

Peter
 






Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
I believe that the fault is an indication that something is failing. There is no Recall since they are only issued for safety-related items. I don't believe anything else was issued either unless it is mentioned in this thread.

Peter
Thanks for the welcome!
This is most assuredly a saftey item. When the fault comes on the vehicle loses power.
Thanks for the reply
 






Hey all,
I've searched the threads and didn't find anything specifically about replacing an abs wheel speed sensor so here we are. I recently had my abs, Trac, tms, and downhill assist lights illuminate in my 14 Sport and Forscan confirmed that my LR wheel speed sensor was the culprit. I swapped it out for a new one *not OEM* cleared DTCs and reset modules in Forscan but the lights keep coming back. Should I suspect the sensor is the issue since it's not from Ford or am I missing something? Anyone have experience with this?
Thanks in advance.
 






Hey all,
I've searched the threads and didn't find anything specifically about replacing an abs wheel speed sensor so here we are. I recently had my abs, Trac, tms, and downhill assist lights illuminate in my 14 Sport and Forscan confirmed that my LR wheel speed sensor was the culprit. I swapped it out for a new one *not OEM* cleared DTCs and reset modules in Forscan but the lights keep coming back. Should I suspect the sensor is the issue since it's not from Ford or am I missing something? Anyone have experience with this?
Thanks in advance.

Hi Janob09

Front wheel speed sensor is mentioned - go back one page to Brokanic's post.

I have a 14 Explorer sport and my Left Front Wheel speed sensor popped out causing the same issues and I just put it back in and bolted it. Reset the codes and the problem was solved. If that was your only fault and it's still persistent then it might be the OEM sensor. Have you had a look at the OEM sensor compared to your old one to see if it's a good match for fit/finish?
 






Hi Brian,
The replacement sensor looks nearly identical to the OEM unit so I'm leaning away from a compatibility issue. Everything was very secure when I removed the OEM sensor and everything was intact so my next move will be to check the hole the sensor goes into for debris and next up I'll return the new sensor and get one from Ford...
 






Hi Janob09

Front wheel speed sensor is mentioned - go back one page to Brokanic's post.

I have a 14 Explorer sport and my Left Front Wheel speed sensor popped out causing the same issues and I just put it back in and bolted it. Reset the codes and the problem was solved. If that was your only fault and it's still persistent then it might be the OEM sensor. Have you had a look at the OEM sensor compared to your old one to see if it's a good match for fit/finish?
I would like to thank Peterk9 first for putting all of these files together. I read everyone because I was experiencing all these alarms. I couldn't take it any more so I finally felt right to take it to my mechanic with Snap-On software. To my surprise he pulled up the codes and I had every code that is in this forum blog. Well I couldn't believe it but I did. He said they see it all the time so he said we will erase all codes and when it pops up again we will read it. I drove a quarter mile down the road and they came on again(trac, abs, slippery road, etc). I went back and it was the left rear wheel sensor. Off I went to take it apart. Sensor was frozen in its socket from aluminum corrosion and broke coming out. No problem just get a new one at $125 us. While I had it apart I had bought a set of wheel bearings and earlier replaced the passenger side so I thought I might as well do the driver side since I working on it. Also noted it appears the new bearings are a different design for the pickup of the wheel sensor must be on the inside of the bearing. Note when removing bearing they recommend replacing the bolts(Lol) that's because you need to loose the bolts just enough then beat the bearing out and beat the bolts then repeat. I took the whole hub off set up some 4x4's in a triangle added a little heat and beat the bearing out. I tried the press but really thought I was going to break something because nothing moved. Ok final answer all alarms and lights are off. Only 80,000 miles
 






After reading through dozens (hundreds?) of posts about the Terrain Management System fault, I can now add another potential fix to the problem. Here's the quote from my service invoice: "Multiple codes found. Engine idles rough with terrain management faults. Can hear a vacuum leak. Inspected and found right bank PCV hose disconnected from intake manifold causing faults stored in modules. Reconnected PCV hose. Cleared all faults, performed test drive, codes did not return. Vehicle operates normally at this time."

So here's the definitely not complete list of fixes and attempted fixes for this fault in approximate order of difficulty from least to greatest occurring in Ford Explorer Gen 5 (model years 2011-2019) gathered from threads on this forum:

1. Key cycling.

2. Turned the car off and on again and it was gone.

3. For about 50 to 60 consecutive starts, I have turned the ignition switch to the on position, waited for a couple of seconds, and the Terrain Management System boots up correctly. Then I start the vehicle and it continues to operate correctly.

4. Found Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) valve hose disconnected from intake manifold; reconnected PCV hose, problem solved.

5. Ford Dealership tech was able to review the error codes and actually found a piece of metal/rust in the sensor unit that was causing the fault. All fixed! Took 10 minutes.

6. The terrain management system is dependent on sensors in the wheels that tell the system which are sticking and slipping. When anything (rain, dust, mud, lint, snow, grass, etc...) gets into these sensors it causes the fault. If you have mud or something more permanent in the sensor it will not go away until you take to a hoist and lift up vehicle so that you can pressure wash the back of the tires which is the only way to get at these sensors.

7. The connector to the dial came unplugged and that caused the warning.

8. Went in for an oil change, they reprogramed the abs module and it has yet to return.

9. Dealer replaced the Terrain Management knob twice, and the problem was still not resolved. Software patch had been completed and tested. The patch was to the ABS system apparently to fix the "wake up" order of the various systems. It only took about 20 minutes, and have not had a TMS fault since.

10. Applied the latest sync software and so far no more TMS errors.

11. Apparently the front left ABS wire has been rubbing on something causing it to wear through. Never caught the wear before because the damage was on the backside of the wire. $30 part.

12. Cleared up when the dealer replaced the battery.

13. Dealer found the issue, it was a faulty module in the steering column that was a part of the processing unit for all the traction control systems. They replaced the whole unit, and that has fixed the issue.

14. After what they told me was a lot of back and forth with specialist/engineers at Ford, the dealer decided it to be attributable to a Smart Data Link Module. Since picking it up, I've only driven it a short distance and no light has appeared.

15. My dealer resolved this by replacing a steering angle sensor. The dealer needed several days to diagnose, but once they fixed it, it hasn't reoccurred.

16. This has been a reoccurring problem. I took it back to the dealer and they replaced the steering angle sensor but problem hasn't stopped.

17. An engineer at Ford instructed the service tech to "overlay the harness from PCM connector 175E to ETC connector C204D R, R ETC and PCM cut old wires install new harness on LE134 and RE134 BU/OG, clear all codes and retest." This finally resolved my problems. Thought is that there is some voltage irregularity which is causing a bogus code to be sensed.

18. My Ford Explorer Terrain Management System FAULT was fixed by the dealer after they replaced the ABS Module. It’s been several months, so far so good.

19. It is the throttle body and they replaced it. So easy to malfunction/stuck and it was only around 540 miles on the odometer.

20. Dealer reprogrammed the PSCM (recall) and replaced the throttle body. Of course it is too early to tell if my vehicle is fixed but I initially surmised that these two issues were related, i.e. sometimes the throttle body is stuck just long enough to throw the TMS fault but resumes normal operation before an issue can be perceived.

21. Steering rack has to be replaced.

22. Had a new battery and a brand new power steering rack installed. The new battery fixed the issue for about 3 hours.

23. It appeared that the rear axle had a lazy solenoid and Ford replaced the whole axle. Then the TMS light illuminated again and disabled the knob as it has done in the past.
 






After reading through dozens (hundreds?) of posts about the Terrain Management System fault, I can now add another potential fix to the problem. Here's the quote from my service invoice: "Multiple codes found. Engine idles rough with terrain management faults. Can hear a vacuum leak. Inspected and found right bank PCV hose disconnected from intake manifold causing faults stored in modules. Reconnected PCV hose. Cleared all faults, performed test drive, codes did not return. Vehicle operates normally at this time."

So here's the definitely not complete list of fixes and attempted fixes for this fault in approximate order of difficulty from least to greatest occurring in Ford Explorer Gen 5 (model years 2011-2019) gathered from threads on this forum:

1. Key cycling.

2. Turned the car off and on again and it was gone.

3. For about 50 to 60 consecutive starts, I have turned the ignition switch to the on position, waited for a couple of seconds, and the Terrain Management System boots up correctly. Then I start the vehicle and it continues to operate correctly.

4. Found Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) valve hose disconnected from intake manifold; reconnected PCV hose, problem solved.

5. Ford Dealership tech was able to review the error codes and actually found a piece of metal/rust in the sensor unit that was causing the fault. All fixed! Took 10 minutes.

6. The terrain management system is dependent on sensors in the wheels that tell the system which are sticking and slipping. When anything (rain, dust, mud, lint, snow, grass, etc...) gets into these sensors it causes the fault. If you have mud or something more permanent in the sensor it will not go away until you take to a hoist and lift up vehicle so that you can pressure wash the back of the tires which is the only way to get at these sensors.

7. The connector to the dial came unplugged and that caused the warning.

8. Went in for an oil change, they reprogramed the abs module and it has yet to return.

9. Dealer replaced the Terrain Management knob twice, and the problem was still not resolved. Software patch had been completed and tested. The patch was to the ABS system apparently to fix the "wake up" order of the various systems. It only took about 20 minutes, and have not had a TMS fault since.

10. Applied the latest sync software and so far no more TMS errors.

11. Apparently the front left ABS wire has been rubbing on something causing it to wear through. Never caught the wear before because the damage was on the backside of the wire. $30 part.

12. Cleared up when the dealer replaced the battery.

13. Dealer found the issue, it was a faulty module in the steering column that was a part of the processing unit for all the traction control systems. They replaced the whole unit, and that has fixed the issue.

14. After what they told me was a lot of back and forth with specialist/engineers at Ford, the dealer decided it to be attributable to a Smart Data Link Module. Since picking it up, I've only driven it a short distance and no light has appeared.

15. My dealer resolved this by replacing a steering angle sensor. The dealer needed several days to diagnose, but once they fixed it, it hasn't reoccurred.

16. This has been a reoccurring problem. I took it back to the dealer and they replaced the steering angle sensor but problem hasn't stopped.

17. An engineer at Ford instructed the service tech to "overlay the harness from PCM connector 175E to ETC connector C204D R, R ETC and PCM cut old wires install new harness on LE134 and RE134 BU/OG, clear all codes and retest." This finally resolved my problems. Thought is that there is some voltage irregularity which is causing a bogus code to be sensed.

18. My Ford Explorer Terrain Management System FAULT was fixed by the dealer after they replaced the ABS Module. It’s been several months, so far so good.

19. It is the throttle body and they replaced it. So easy to malfunction/stuck and it was only around 540 miles on the odometer.

20. Dealer reprogrammed the PSCM (recall) and replaced the throttle body. Of course it is too early to tell if my vehicle is fixed but I initially surmised that these two issues were related, i.e. sometimes the throttle body is stuck just long enough to throw the TMS fault but resumes normal operation before an issue can be perceived.

21. Steering rack has to be replaced.

22. Had a new battery and a brand new power steering rack installed. The new battery fixed the issue for about 3 hours.

23. It appeared that the rear axle had a lazy solenoid and Ford replaced the whole axle. Then the TMS light illuminated again and disabled the knob as it has done in the past.
this is really great thank you, 21 explorer platinum with same exact symptoms
 






this is really great thank you, 21 explorer platinum with same exact symptoms
21 Platinum or 2020 as shown in your margin profile?

Peter
 












I was recently driving, and out of nowhere my dashboard lit up. 58k miles. Wrench light and traction control light came on first, then the AdvanceTrac/Hillstart/Etc. messages, then the MIL light came on a few minutes later. Almost no engine power, rough idle, and transmission was slamming into gear. I thought I was screwed.
I limped it home and checked the DTCs. There were a lot, but P0108 was the permanent code causing the MIL to light up.
I picked up a new MAP sensor from Ford parts dept. for $25 and swapped it out with ease. Everything is great again.
No idea why a faulty MAP sensor would affect the operation of so many other un-related components, and why it cause the transmission to bang into gear so horribly, but there you have it.
 






2019 Explorer XLT - searching for answers to the aforementioned issues like everyone describes.

In my case, the abs , traction control, hill assist, etc lights come on. They used to disappear after about a minute, but now stay on continuously.

Can’t change driving mode (snow, sand, etc).

GPS errors on the navigation system (but it still works)

When the error lights are on, I’ve found that it will throw a code and the wrench light comes. I seem to lose overdrive when this happens. If I shut off the engine, it resets and is fine. Code is p016 16 - low voltage. Battery is fine though (changed, recharged, etc).

Will try cleaning the abs sensors
 






Only when my battery was failing. The whole system was goofy with a spotty battery. Cleared up when the dealer replaced the battery.
I had the same thing with bad battery but my terrain management, downhill descent is saying issues when I try to use them and traction control lights are on. And terrain management stoped lighting up. I changed my battery but all is still the same is there anything I need to do to reset it other than unhooking battery?
 






I had the same thing with bad battery but my terrain management, downhill descent is saying issues when I try to use them and traction control lights are on. And terrain management stoped lighting up. I changed my battery but all is still the same is there anything I need to do to reset it other than unhooking battery?
Welcome to the Forum. :wave:
Your current issue could be a bad wheel speed sensor. Disconnecting the negative battery cable won't fix that.

Peter
 






2019 Explorer XLT - searching for answers to the aforementioned issues like everyone describes.

In my case, the abs , traction control, hill assist, etc lights come on. They used to disappear after about a minute, but now stay on continuously.

Can’t change driving mode (snow, sand, etc).

GPS errors on the navigation system (but it still works)

When the error lights are on, I’ve found that it will throw a code and the wrench light comes. I seem to lose overdrive when this happens. If I shut off the engine, it resets and is fine. Code is p016 16 - low voltage. Battery is fine though (changed, recharged, etc).

Will try cleaning the abs sensors
Any update on your issue?

Peter
 






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