Mudboy
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.....never happened....to my knowledge all 1st gen 4x4's came with the TTB Dana 35.
this is correct.
.....never happened....to my knowledge all 1st gen 4x4's came with the TTB Dana 35.
The HP figures for the JET performance chip are actual dyno results from Jess Pranskus, tech over at Jet Performance for what the chip is supposed to deliver.
This part is just hilariousthe figures from the pro-fab intake are what I was told the intake tube is supposed to be good for
Oh well I guess you should have......maybe 0.001 hp gain.Notice I did not quote gains for the drop in filter
intake tube and the tb are major points of restriction in the factory intake
The engine woke up quite a bit after the chip and again, this is confirmed by actual dyno tests.
Actually, the main point of restriction in the intake system that most knowledgeable members address first is the MAF sensor housing. If you look inside you will see why. It makes very little difference doing these other mods until you replace the MAF, its like trying to breath through a straw. With that being said, a new MAF and a decent tune would take advantage of the other mods (ie. intake tube and throttle plate). You'll be hard pressed to see any substantial gains without the MAF upgrade and tune since the MAF is upstream of the tube and throttle body.
I'm not here to argue, I'm just saying that by going by estimated figures by sales people and making claims of hp gain numbers isn't going to sell here.
Anybody who has ever had a vehicle dyno tuned or done dyno tuning knows that adding part X (10hp) + part y (10hp) + part z (10 hp) will never equal 30 whp on a dyno.
No, it is valves, then the intake manifold, then the MAF. The intake tube and filter don't even compare to the restriction on those.
Ok, so what your saying is that you would change valves and intake manifold before the MAF, leaving the stock MAF would be like trying to breathe through a straw, no? I know the valves don't flow for **** and the manifold design isn't exactly performance inspired but something about that logic doesn't add up. Please elaborate if you will.
Uhhhh the Screamin demon coil widens gap to .065, hence the gain if you'd actually read up on it before making boldface assumptions.
I did neglect to mention I HAVE switched MAF housings as well- I've done so much it is hard to remember all of it. I had a grip of large Ford MAF housings lying around and stuck the maf guts into a housing without that ridiculous bottleneck.
I mean the biggest restrictions are those parts in that order. The stock MAF isn't even that big of a restriction except at HIGH RPM.
:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:Man- this is ####ing retarded. Long story short- I am hard up for cash, I built this thing as best I could and because my ####ing family made me give up on
The ex and buy another car when the trans went right after replacing the clutch, now I need to sell it to pay rent next month as well as pay the $1650 balance remaining on the volvo's motor.
Look, I merchandise this stuff for a living and I'm tired of arguing the point. I have a lot of money time and thought put into what I used to build the ex and frankly i'm kind of miffed none of you can respect the effort put into this damn thing.
I'm done. This argument is like the special olympics- even if you win, this is still retarded.
I am really glad I am leaving this community.
Man- this is ####ing retarded. Long story short- I am hard up for cash, I built this thing as best I could and because my ####ing family made me give up on
The ex and buy another car when the trans went right after replacing the clutch, now I need to sell it to pay rent next month as well as pay the $1650 balance remaining on the volvo's motor.
Look, I merchandise this stuff for a living and I'm tired of arguing the point. I have a lot of money time and thought put into what I used to build the ex and frankly i'm kind of miffed none of you can respect the effort put into this damn thing.
I'm done. This argument is like the special olympics- even if you win, this is still retarded.
I am really glad I am leaving this community.
Actually, the main point of restriction in the intake system that most knowledgeable members address first is the MAF sensor housing. If you look inside you will see why. It makes very little difference doing these other mods until you replace the MAF, its like trying to breath through a straw. With that being said, a new MAF and a decent tune would take advantage of the other mods (ie. intake tube and throttle plate). You'll be hard pressed to see any substantial gains without the MAF upgrade and tune since the MAF is upstream of the tube and throttle body.
I'm not here to argue, I'm just saying that by going by estimated figures by sales people and making claims of hp gain numbers isn't going to sell here.
I'm pretty new to the Explorer world, but am fairly well versed in Ford engines. Every vehicle we've owned has been a ford since the seventies (Lincoln's, Mustang's, Torino's, Bronco's, Econoline's, pickups etc.The HP figures for the JET performance chip are actual dyno results from Jess Pranskus, tech over at Jet Performance for what the chip is supposed to deliver. I can cite the dyno sheet if need be. Screamin Demon coil is only good for a handful of HP and the figures from the pro-fab intake are what I was told the intake tube is supposed to be good for. It does get much better mileage than it did beforehand, my wallet and fuel expenses since modifications attest to that. Again, gains are cumulative and complimented by other components. It is without question a much more powerful truck as a result. I have not dyno'd it because I don't see the need to and what I wrote was correct as far as I know. How do you know a JET Performance chip is *not* good for those figures? I'd like to see your dyno sheet proving JET wrong.
I'm not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes here, just what everything is supposed to
be. Given how restrictive the factory intake tube is and the difference in response, 10 hp doesn't seem all that unreasonable, particularly in conjunction with the rest of the modified intake tract. Notice I did not quote gains for the drop in filter or the ported/halfshafted tb. Considering I bought my coil and tb from a reputable tuner's personal vehicle, I don't see why a higher voltage coil would not result in any gains.
I don't see how widening the plug gap and increased voltage would not naturally increase output and by handful of HP I'm talking 1-3hp. I know firsthand that small changes such as a tb spacer can result in 1 rwhp and +7 rwtq in other Ford applications.
Performance tune up means I used quality HD components rather than just whatever stock was, ie, to increase performance.
Lord, you lot are harsh. It's no wonder I don't post that often. I'm glad I am leaving the Exp community. I put everything down to the best of my knowledge.