"I wish they'd put them underneath, or if they have to have them inside, give us room for a full size, matching spare. I did a five tire rotation on my Grand Cherokee because I had that option, and I got over 70k miles out of 55k mile tires."
...that's awesome with 5.
No way in all of fiery hell a 20" would be inside, - not sure you could do it under either.
I see the various models but no one has mentioned their tire size...Limited and Plat - those must be 20" wheels?
Limited= rec psi is 35 cold for 20" wheels...
GC is a 5 pass vehicle. The 5 pass Explorer equivalent is the Police Interceptor Utility which comes with a full size spare (18", inside). I haven't tried, but it may be possible to fit an equivalent 20" spare in the PIU (assuming the dimensions of the 20" spare are the same as the 18" - which they should be pretty close)."I wish they'd put them underneath, or if they have to have them inside, give us room for a full size, matching spare. I did a five tire rotation on my Grand Cherokee because I had that option, and I got over 70k miles out of 55k mile tires."
...that's awesome with 5.
No way in all of fiery hell a 20" would be inside, - not sure you could do it under either.
I see the various models but no one has mentioned their tire size...Limited and Plat - those must be 20" wheels?
Limited= rec psi is 35 cold for 20" wheels...
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GC is a 5 pass vehicle. The 5 pass Explorer equivalent is the Police Interceptor Utility which comes with a full size spare (18", inside). I haven't tried, but it may be possible to fit an equivalent 20" spare in the PIU (assuming the dimensions of the 20" spare are the same as the 18" - which they should be pretty close).
What pressure is everyone running their tires at? I have some Michelin Defenders that were installed and they were filled up to about 42-44 PSI which I think might be a bit too much. I am looking for what is optimal for MPG.
Thanks.
That advice is only applicable if one is running the same exact tire as supplied by the factory and OEM's have been known to provide different recommendations than the tire manufacturers, so everyone should take it with a huge grain of salt. The part about the best MPG, handling & tire wear is not entirely true/accurate. Different pressures affect the contact patch and rolling resistance of the tire and can have significant effects on MPG, handling & tire wear. There isn't a single pressure that magically makes every tire the BEST at all three at the same time. Everything is a compromise. If you change from the OEM tires, you should probably follow the tire manufacturers recommendations. Different tires will have different recommended pressures.Any tires should be filled to the recommended air pressure stated on the drivers side door! For best MPG, handling & tire wear.
That advice is only applicable if one is running the same exact tire as supplied by the factory and OEM's have been known to provide different recommendations than the tire manufacturers, so everyone should take it with a huge grain of salt. The part about the best MPG, handling & tire wear is not entirely true/accurate. Different pressures affect the contact patch and rolling resistance of the tire and can have significant effects on MPG, handling & tire wear. There isn't a single pressure that magically makes every tire the BEST at all three at the same time. Everything is a compromise. If you change from the OEM tires, you should probably follow the tire manufacturers recommendations. Different tires will have different recommended pressures.
For those that may have forgotten about the Explorer/Firestone debacle, maybe it's timefor a brief refresher...
Ford and Firestone's Tire Recall: The Costliest Information Gap in History
Firestone emphasized the importance of maintaining proper inflation pressure. Firestone recommended a pressure of 30 pounds-per-square-inch (psi), whereas Ford recommended a range of 26 to 30 psi. Ford claimed its tests showed the tire performed well at 26 psi and that the lower pressure made for a smoother ride. However, Firestone claimed underinflation could put too much pressure on the tire, contributing to a higher temperature and causing the belts to separate.
I have Michelin Latitude Tour HPs on my 17 base and am running 44 psi at a max (the temperature fluctuations where I live are driving me nuts to try and keep all 4 tires the same), as recommended on the sidewall. When I bought it, they were at a lower psi and I have been debating letting get back down to ~35 psi each.
Why are you running at max recommended pressure?
Also, not sure why your temperature fluctuations would impact pressure differences between tires.
My 4 tires all change about the same with temp changes. They are usually within 0.5psi from each other.
One tire doesn't change more than others.
BTW, I run about 38-39psi cold.