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Had my tuner tune out PATS..gonna download it now and try tonight and see if any differences..

Used ecu will be here Tuesday also...worries me its used and that they offer a updated ecu for mine..most offer it for a reason..
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That's a good idea to suspect PATS and try a tune with it disabled. According to my Centennial Owner's Guide the THEFT light should "flash rapidly or glow steadily when the ignition is in the RUN position". Have you tried a different ignition key? I have a non PATS key for my 2000 Sport. When I use the key the starter cranks but the fuel injectors are disabled. However, if I spray starting fluid into the intake manifold with the chipless key the engine will start and run for a few seconds proving the ignition is not disabled. There's a DTC associated with PATS: P1260 Theft Detected - Engine Disabled. You didn't post that DTC as being present. Below is something I found on the internet:

Question:
I have a 1999 Ford Explorer. The car doesn't start and when I retrieve codes I am getting a P1260 - Theft Detected, Engine Disabled. What can I do about this Ford engine light code?

Answer:
Thanks for contacting us with your Ford engine light question. P1260 indicates that the Passive Anti Theft system (PATS) detected a "theft condition". This basically means an incorrect signal, or no signal at all was received from the chipped key. Brief overview: your ignition key has a chip in it called a transponder that is read by the PATS transceiver (mounted around the ignition cylinder housing behind the column shroud). The signal is then sent to the PATS control module, which communicates with the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and enables the vehicle to start. Sorry for all the acronyms! When an incorrect signal is received, the PATS module then sends this message to the PCM which triggers the P1260 trouble code, resulting in a no start condition. Possible causes are: an incorrect key being used, faulty key chip (transponder), wiring concerns between the transceiver module and PATS module, the transceiver module itself or internal PATS or PCM module concerns. The first thing to do in this instance is retrieve codes from the PATS module and diagnose these. Once the PATS issues have been resolved you can reset the P1260. Communication with the PATS module will likely need to be done at a Ford dealer. A few things to check first: make sure the correct key is being used, and if you have a second key, try that one as well. If one key starts it but not the other, you may have a faulty key. If both keys do not work, then it is not likely a key problem. Honestly, we see very few problems with the keys themselves. Make sure no one has tampered with the steering column shroud as the transceiver module located behind it is fairly fragile. Lastly check for an aftermarket remote start system. These are a common cause of no start problems with PATS equipped vehicles. Some installers will remove the chip from your key and tape it to the column (under the shroud). This basically bypasses the system and allows it to be started without a chipped key. The problem is that the transponder removed from the key is not designed to be used in this way and can fail due to extreme temperature changes and, depending on mounting condition, excessive vibration and shock. Other installers use a "key box" installed under the dash, and these have been known to cause issues as well. If you suspect the concern to be related to a remote start it may not be a bad idea to have it checked or removed to complete diagnosis.
 






That's a good idea to suspect PATS and try a tune with it disabled. According to my Centennial Owner's Guide the THEFT light should "flash rapidly or glow steadily when the ignition is in the RUN position". Have you tried a different ignition key? I have a non PATS key for my 2000 Sport. When I use the key the starter cranks but the fuel injectors are disabled. However, if I spray starting fluid into the intake manifold with the chipless key the engine will start and run for a few seconds proving the ignition is not disabled. There's a DTC associated with PATS: P1260 Theft Detected - Engine Disabled. You didn't post that DTC as being present. Below is something I found on the internet:

Question:
I have a 1999 Ford Explorer. The car doesn't start and when I retrieve codes I am getting a P1260 - Theft Detected, Engine Disabled. What can I do about this Ford engine light code?

Answer:
Thanks for contacting us with your Ford engine light question. P1260 indicates that the Passive Anti Theft system (PATS) detected a "theft condition". This basically means an incorrect signal, or no signal at all was received from the chipped key. Brief overview: your ignition key has a chip in it called a transponder that is read by the PATS transceiver (mounted around the ignition cylinder housing behind the column shroud). The signal is then sent to the PATS control module, which communicates with the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and enables the vehicle to start. Sorry for all the acronyms! When an incorrect signal is received, the PATS module then sends this message to the PCM which triggers the P1260 trouble code, resulting in a no start condition. Possible causes are: an incorrect key being used, faulty key chip (transponder), wiring concerns between the transceiver module and PATS module, the transceiver module itself or internal PATS or PCM module concerns. The first thing to do in this instance is retrieve codes from the PATS module and diagnose these. Once the PATS issues have been resolved you can reset the P1260. Communication with the PATS module will likely need to be done at a Ford dealer. A few things to check first: make sure the correct key is being used, and if you have a second key, try that one as well. If one key starts it but not the other, you may have a faulty key. If both keys do not work, then it is not likely a key problem. Honestly, we see very few problems with the keys themselves. Make sure no one has tampered with the steering column shroud as the transceiver module located behind it is fairly fragile. Lastly check for an aftermarket remote start system. These are a common cause of no start problems with PATS equipped vehicles. Some installers will remove the chip from your key and tape it to the column (under the shroud). This basically bypasses the system and allows it to be started without a chipped key. The problem is that the transponder removed from the key is not designed to be used in this way and can fail due to extreme temperature changes and, depending on mounting condition, excessive vibration and shock. Other installers use a "key box" installed under the dash, and these have been known to cause issues as well. If you suspect the concern to be related to a remote start it may not be a bad idea to have it checked or removed to complete diagnosis.
Yea its sounds like its not a PATS issue because definitely getting fuel just not spark and no irregular theft light... but im grasping for straws at this point..

Only have one key also
 






I FREAKING FOUND IT!!!its the wires that go to the pass coils..there is a piece of rubber that smush between the cover,where wires come out are all broke and burt.... it must have gotten stuck or smashed in between my dipstick in the EGR tube. One of the reasons I wanted to get rid of that EGR tube
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Its actually messed up on both banks..
One side done..stripped the rubber off,cut,heat shrink and solder them all back up....
Wtf
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That bank looks absolutely trashed from the pic. Congratulations on finding the issue. Nothing easy about finding these kinds of faults.
 






Im just hope all the shorting out didnt hurt the ecm or anything. .no fuses blew though. .pray this works,in waiting for it to air out right now..it was flooded bad feom me trying with the no pats tune
 






I sure hope that's the source of your issues. Please don't throw away your EGR tube. On the used tube I purchased I still haven't been able to separate the exhaust manifold to tube fitting from the tube. Ford no longer sells the tube and the salvage yards just cut them off near the fitting because they're so hard to separate. I may want to buy yours. I can purchase a new fitting but not the tube.
 






Great, that's a relief to find a problem like that, hiding and making you dream up all kinds of possibilities.
 






Unfortunately it STILL wont start...its gota of damaged the ecu..

This is such a ****ing headache
 


















Good find on that wire harness damage, keep going you will get it!
 






Ive ripped the ecu and opened it up..nothing jumps out and screams bad....

Me on other hand im sure my neighbors haven't appreciated what I've been screaming
 






For each COP connector pin 2 connected to the white/light blue stripe wire should have battery voltage to ground when the ignition is on. I suggest testing each one. The current flows thru the primary winding of the COP to pin 1 and then the PCM. When the PCM opens the path the electromagnetic field in the primary collapses and induces a high voltage in the secondary that jumps the gap in the spark plug. The amount of current flow thru the COP primary is limited by the resistance of the primary and the PCM solid state switch. If one or more of the wires going from the COP to PCM was shorted to ground by the metal cover the associated PCM solid state switch may have been damaged.
 






Ecu didnt help..guess im going to take it somewhere and i have no clue where other than the dealer!
 






Getn spark..i swear its a fuel issue ..its reaks of gas and constantly has been flooding out

 






Are all cylinders getting consistent spark now?
Not flooding anymore? maybe new problem now or you had two problems from the beginning?
Try carb cleaner again?
 






Are all cylinders getting consistent spark now?
Not flooding anymore? maybe new problem now or you had two problems from the beginning?
Try carb cleaner again?
They definitely are getting spark..
Still flooding out.
 



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Gonna take the injectors down and have them tested tomorrow. ..i gotta try EVERYTHING before tow it down to dealer..its almost not worth even taking to dealer,i could part this truck out and have plenty to buy a much newer running vehicle
 






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