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1997 V8 Explorer PCM w/harness and transmission transplant in my 1977 351w F150

Discussion in 'Need for Speed!' started by boominXplorer, October 8, 2017.

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      So made some progress......Got the frame painted, new brakes, new kingpins, 3.50 rear axle rebuilt. Still have to fix the frame where the front body mounts sit and a bunch of little things but the suspension is done. Few issues have arose though.

      First is the trans mount: It needs to be moved back 2". Problem is the current mount is right where the frame starts to go up in the back, so it can't just be moved back. Also If I leave it where it is and modify the mount it will be near impossible to get the pan off. A new crossmember will be made out of tube.

      Headers: I thought long tubes would be ideal but damn they are a pain to install. They don't make 351w headers and the ones I have are made for the 302. The drivers side fits with some decent hammering to clear the steering box (still only about 1/8" clearance after hammering). The passenger side hits the frame rail and the starter portion on the trans. Even with the cab off the engine has to be lifted to get the passenger header in. They will both "work" with a few dings but will be an absolute pain to service. I'm looking for other options which quite possibly means going to shorties. I've tried some mustang headers (short and long) and a set of explorer FMS headers and none work like I want.

      I also broke down and bought the knock off PP 351w mustang swap intake. Seems to fit good and be of decent quality. Couldn't pass up the black Friday price of $285 for the polished upper and lower.

      The cab has been in the back of the shop getting rust repair. Floors and cab corners are done, along with some patches in the door jam area. Down to roof repair and to decide how much rust I'll fix on the bed. It's all being patched right with steel, no body filler till the last step to make it purdy.

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    3. boominXplorer

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      I also want to add it appears I got lucky with my pick n pull 96 Explorer 4r70w. I pulled the pan and found a reman valve body and bonded accumulators. The torque converter has a date on it of late 98 so it could if been rebuilt early in life. I has decided against upgrading the trans to the 98+ parts as this trans should be good to go (pulled from a wrecked 96 with 150k). I will upgrade or swap it out later if any issues arise.
       
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      Excellent progress, that chassis/frame work is tough and important. That should make the truck last a long time and not need much work in the near future.
       
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      I really want to see the motor fully dressed
       
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      It won't be long, maybe another month and it will be all sitting in there. With having 4 kids and a stay at home wifey I haven't got much done this month since Christmas is expensive for me lol. Work work work.

      Small update though: Cab is 95% done with metal work, about to move on to coatings on it. I'm trying to figure out the rust in the cowl issue now. I have a few pinholes on either side I need to do something about. Crappy thing is the cowl can't be removed without drilling over 100 spot welds. I'm thinking some epoxy in the small holes and dumping in POR15.

      Final deal on the engine and trans mounts are as such: I'm using the stock truck perches with 302 mounts and I've plated the trans crossmember so the explorer trans mount can be used. The factory trans mount was only attached by 1 bolt horizontally though the crossmember. That way with the offset of the explorer mount I only have to move the engine forward about 15/16" for everything to work right. I have also found an aluminum E250 driveshaft that will work perfectly for me once I move the engine.

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      These are the next headers I'm going to try. As you see in the pic below the summit long tubes that "everyone uses" is going to melt the steering box. Also with the motor going forward almost an inch they are just not going to work.

      Next option is Hedman 88660 which are early 70s mustang 351w swap headers. They look like they will work perfectly if they don't hit the cab floor.

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      I have the same issues lol , maybe i can see it up close if we come get that tranny off you , havent got to that project yet , and ive got this sport trac just sitting here waiting to be frankenstined
       
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      Awesome! Wish I knew how to do all of this kind of stuff, lol.

      Need to find somewhere close I can "intern" at for free on the weekends, lol! :D
       
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      Got my headers, they'll work way better than the previous set. They look like the might fit a v8 explorer with a 3" body lift with a few mods possibly. Pics taken with a used set of fms explorer gt40 headers to compare.

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      Man its been awhile. I took a little break from the truck, bought a house and lost all my free time until now. I literally pulled it out from the corner of my shop last week and got back on it.

      Since my last update I've got the engine moved forward just under 1" and transmission crossmember modded to use an explorer mount. I'm still working on getting the long tubes to fit how I like but it's getting there. I've got most of the sheet metal work done that I wanted to also. Hoping to start running fuel lines and wiring soon.
       
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      Can't wait to see more
       
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      Moving can be fun!!!

      Love this project keep it up when you can!
       
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      Here's how she sits at the moment. Even with the engine moved forward the header still barely hits the cab. Have a ton of finish work left and to build the wiring harness.

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      I like where you're going with this! Nice!

      But why you put chinese knockoff intake on classic v8 pickup. Why you no merica??
       
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      Cause 351 efi intakes aint cheep , ive been looking for one myself
       
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      Dang..

      Local guy on craigslist was selling a marine lower for $250. It's the same as the pricey lightning lower but it's iron instead of aluminum.

      Do they have any boat bone yards in VA? May be able to find you one of those cheap.
       
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      I actually just sold a tubular gt40 upper I've had for awhile trying to find to find the matching lower. The lowers can't be found for under $400 and I'm not liking the iron one (even though I looked for one). I sold my upper for $420 and bought the professional products one for 1/4 of the price it would cost for a gt40 setup.

      I'm trying to keep the build cheap as this will be a shop truck I put engines and junk in. It's definitely still not perfect as it had a ton of rust to begin with. Total investment when finished will be under $5k which will include about $1500 in sheet metal and labor getting the body sound. I probably will just primer the bare metal where it was repaired and drive it. I'm not a fan of body filler, it doesn't hold up to abuse so I'll probably let the next person finish up the purdyness and paint it if they want. I've got a light green hood, blue doors and a white tailgate so it's going to look like a true pos when done lol.
       
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      Right on boomin. Don't blame you at all under the circumstances. Looks Good!


      EFI 351w+4r70w in a &77' is a perfect combination! :thumbsup:
       
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      The donor truck is here. All of the wiring, hvac and hopefully the steering column will be switched into the 77.

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      Front core support holes were patched and finally finished painting the frame. The under side of the cab has been seem sealed, primed and undercoated. Still have to finish up the bodywork on the outside but metal work is 99% done.

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      Excellent work, big progress there.

      What are the chances that the dash width matches the F150? My friend has a similar truck about the same model, he'd like to do something with the engine too, his has a 351C-2V now.
       
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