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Finding EE Sway Bar or having a custom bent up?

Discussion in 'Modified 1995-2001 Explorers' started by Afrojoe, October 17, 2016.

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      This is a 1.5" Hellwig bar for a Sprinter Van. Closest sway bar I could find that matches the explorer but can't find any measurements for the width between the ends.



      Thought I'd share.
       
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      Cool, I'd like to have those frame bushings, for spares. That bar couldn't work since the end are turned 90* from where they need to be for the link bushings(vertical bolt).
       
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      Could you use a different endlink with that Addco Sprinter bar, maybe like this one...?

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      That bar looks really narrow too, I'd bet it's a foot or more too short. Altering the bar I don't think would be a good idea. Has anyone asked about Addco making more of the fronts in 1.5"? I like mine a lot, it was a good match to the EE rear bar. I wanted to put urethane in the rear end links to get a slightly better balance. Mine has a hair of under steer now, no over steer like the EE rear bar can create. That's about the ideal balance for me.
       
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      Not to get off topic here, but does anyone know what the measurements were of the EE front sway bar? Is it that much better than stock?
       
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      My Bad.

      A Hellwig is actually pictured but Addco and Roadmaster also make bars.

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      Even better if its too small. Cut the bar in half and machine a spacer, slide both sides in to correct length, then weld.

      Those endlinks wouldn't be a problem if you got a bar with mounting holes that are facing upwards like some are.

      Last take off Sprinter bar I seen was only $40 on ebay.
       
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      Did they make a 2nd gen front bar? The 95-97's were hollow, so the solid 98-01's are the best readily available at 34mm.
       
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      Addco part no. 737 appears to be an upgrade. I could be wrong though. And converting measurements, it would be a 38mm.
       
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      Cool, that must be the exact same bar as I have.
       
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      I would think that welding would change the properties of the metal, thus creating stress/weak points.
      The spacer would be a different metal than the swaybar, so it would not twist like the swaybar, thus more stress/weak points.

      I am not a welder, so these are just guesses on my part. I can ask my buddie who teaches welding, to get his opinions, if anyone is curious.
       
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      Here's the idea...

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      My Pop shortened a 69' Firebird front end and put it on His 50' Chevy Coupe.

      Welding CroMo? I dunno...
       
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      The steering arms can be welded better without issues. Sway bars function by constant twisting forces in them. I'd bet simple welds wouldn't survive very long. I'd rather try harder to get an intact bar to do the job. Some race cars use simple straight steel bars with special attachments on each end for attachment and adjustments.
       
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      Ah-Ha!

      So do you see any problems with making spacers for the axle mounts so as to clear the diff with a straight bar?
       
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      The parts are cramped in there around the sway bar and frame, but there may be a straight line of space near where the OEM bar runs. Note that the 95-01's have it mounted on the vertical part of the frame, and 98-01's mount it under the frame a few inches away from the same place.

      How much is the Addco 1.5" front bar now, is it too high now? They would be the place to get one from. Here they are being asked to make a bigger rear bar, and may do it this Summer. On the Mark VII forum, they are talking Addco into making their rear bar for that car, which is also tough to come by. I'm glad they are still in business.
       
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      Summit Racing has it for $296.
       
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      Ouch, that's why the looking for an alternative. I think I got it for near $225, but that was around 2006.
       
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      I haven't gotten around to getting any Sway Bars yet. I just recently bought a 1982 280zx that has taken a chunk of attention and funds lol. In the long run I want paint it black and dark purple, redo the interior, and maybe drop a 351w in it. Might look into dropping a 8.8 or 9 inch after the 351. In Explorer news, I did buy a 3.73 LSD out of a Mounty for my Explorer. Only cost 37 dollars at the Pull-A-Part.
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      Received an email back from John at Addco. He said he's still on hold with custom orders until August or September as it stands. As soon as he's ready and lets me know, I'll let everyone know via this thread...for that those that are still interested.
       
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      Thanks for that update, it still sounds promising.
       
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      I have the number of a guy who had an EE sway bar for Gen2 for sale last year. (Maybe PM me if you are in NorCal) I didn't need it since I installed the Hellwig 7648, I recommend it.
       
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      I got tired of waiting on Addco and bought a Hellwig. Installed it yesterday. Night and day difference. Highly recommend.
       
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      Well done, and thanks for the update. Addco can be good to deal with, but not perfect.
       
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      Yea, I still plan on getting their front sway bar once I have time.
       
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      The big 1.5" bar is close to being too stiff with urethane end link bushings. I hadn't decided yet if I wanted to adjust them softer(use rubber end links). The truck drove very flat, stiff too.
       
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      I've had the Hellwig 1" rear bar for several months, and I like it very much. I'd recommend it to anybody for an upgrade from a safety perspective alone.
       

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