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Ford questions that always bugged me

Discussion in 'Exploring everything under the sun!!' started by ld50, October 9, 2002.

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    1. ld50

      ld50 Oh, the money you`ll blow

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      I thought I`d ask.

      First:

      What are they measuring when they call a ford 8.8 inch axle and/ or a 9 inch axle. I know fords enough that I could probably tell the difference between the two, but I realize I don`t know what the the inch refers to exactly.

      And:

      Some old Ford pickups, even back to the seventies, had "Explorer" written on the box. I always thought this was some sort of special package you could get, but never quite verified this. Am I right?

      And:

      About the torx bolts that Ford seems to refer to as a "security star" head or something like that (sorry, I don`t want to go get my owner`s manual to find what they call it).
      Is that specifically a Ford invention? I was wondering because I saw some under the hood of a Volvo today.


      That`s all I can think of now...
       
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      I'm not sure about the first two,but the security star can be found on/in everything from public restrooms(walls around toilets) to automobiles. I'm not sure who invented it,but I don't think Ford did. It's just meant to secure something that shouldn't be removed, until it needs replaced.
      Tim
       
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      Alec Elite Moderator Moderator Emeritus

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      1) diameter of differential ring gear
      2) Explorer was an option package, I remember many F100s and old "Rangers" that were also "Explorers"
      3) They're everywhere. Just uncommon enough that not everyone has a star driver on their Swiss Army knife. And BTW, Volvo is a division of Ford now, so they share many parts.
       
    5. ld50

      ld50 Oh, the money you`ll blow

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      AAHHAA!

      Who da man?

      The ring gear, never occurred to me, thanks. Here I am thinking about everything but that, but of course I don`t see the insides often.

      I always thought of those torx or star bits as a way for "them" to make more money off people. I wondered if a bunch of Ford techs sat around and thought that out. And I never knew Volvo was attached to Ford, how bout that?

      thanks bud, I`ll post again if I think of more!
       
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      99explorer5.0 Well-Known Member

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      This summer i went to one of those test drive things that only elite volvo customers go to. It was at an abandoned military airport. Me and a couple of friends heard about it through the grapevine and decided to crash the party. They had all kinds of tracks setup with wet and dry conditions and they actually encouraged us to try to put the car sideways around corners. It was alot of fun.

      But anyway the guy told us that if we were interested in buying a Volvo this years model was the last one that you should look into if you want high quality becuase next year FORD is going to be introducing their own parts (which he explained to me as junk) to try and make the cars a little more affortable.
       
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      Another thing about rear ends is the term "12 bolt posi". Most people think it's the number of bolts that hold the cover on the rear end (it usually is), but it's really how many bolts hold the ring gear to the differential.
       
    8. yob_yeknom

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      Torx screws are the ones with the little star shapes in the heads. Security star screws are torx screws with a 'bump' in the middle of the star that won't let a normal torx screwdriver fit into the star.
       
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      Howard Moderator Elite Explorer Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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      There are some more positive benifits from fitting "Torx" screws/bolts with or without the security pin. You can get more torque applied without rounding the corners and rendering the bolt useless. Most tool stores will happily sell you a set of security "Torx" ends for your socket set so there's not much security. The one thing that realy gets me about Ford is the way that models are called different names between all the different countries eg: Maverick in the UK is Escape in the USA and why do they fit completely different parts on export models and then not supply the dealers in that country with the data on parts or the training. Also why do some Ford dealers not support all models. For example I have an Explorer my local dealer, just 2mins away, can't or won't have anything to do with it and they force me to drive nearly 50 miles to the 4x4 specialist and when I get there they haven't got a clue. Come on FORD lets get it together. All models the same everywhere and all dealers can cope else they shouldn't be dealers.
      Sorry about the rant but it just gets to me. Thanks for your patience.
       
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      All Ford full size and Ranger trucks from like 1980mor so could be had in either an "Explorer" or "Ranger" package. The packages were for hunters or bush travelers. The "Camper special" was for campers....

      It is cool and weird to see a 1985 Ranger "Explorer":D
       
    11. ld50

      ld50 Oh, the money you`ll blow

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      So what did the "Explorer package" consist of? hmm?
       
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      taxx Make em say Ugh

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      I wonder if on the rangers the "Explorer" package was to get the name out? They did it on the vans too. Cause then they had the Explorer "Expidition" shortly before the expidition came out and I have yet to fgure out the difference between an explorer "expidition" and my sport?
       
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      I think the Explorer Expedition came with a grille guard and some extra fogs. Cosmetic stuff.
       
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      In '95 (the one and only year for the Explorer Expedition) it meant it had the nicer 16" rims instead of 15" rims, leather seats, and a few other options.
      No extra fog lights or grille guard though.
       
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      Ask ExplorerGM. He has a '95 Explorer Expedition. I know his came with the grill guard and what amounted to the Premium Sport Package on later years (larger fender flares, running bars, 16" wheel package, fog lamps). I don't remember if his had leather or not though.
       
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      Jason_25 has one also, he'd know.

      I asked him about it once, but I forgot what he said :rolleyes:
       
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      Things Unique to the Expedition Model

      1.Grillguard and taillight guards optional

      2.Climate Control optional (no other 2 door ever had this)

      3.Message Center optional(no other 2 door ever had this)

      It looks like the 97+ premium sports. Notice that in '96 no sports ever looked like this with the big fender flares and 16 inch wheels.

      Auto tranny and the 16" 3 spokes are standard, as well as leather seating. The factory tow shackles are standard as well as a low gearing (3.73 or 4.10) and limited slip.
       
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      Told you he'd know :)
       
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      ld50 Oh, the money you`ll blow

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      Kay, here`s another one!

      WHAT HAPPENED to the Mustang in the 70s? and what about the MustangII?

      Were they all on the pot or what?

      - I used to have a 1972 Ford Galaxy 500 a while back. Thing was in AWESOME shape. It had a 400cubic inch engine with a 4-barrel carb. Sucker was huge tho`, you could almost reach orbit with the speed it had, but if you had to turn, the tires would plow like a bastard. AHH, some fond memories with that car, Huge back seat! you could comfortably service a whole harem back there;)
       
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      my theory is the Mustang II was developed along the same time crack cocaine was, and obviously by the same people. just seems the Mustang II made it to the public first. thankfully, most are sitting in junkyards now, minus the frontend. while the car is mostly crap, the frontend works very well on an endless number of street rod swaps...

      i in know way meant to offend any Mustang II owners out there. it is solely my own opinion that the Mustang II is a hideous pile of crap, that has disgraced the mustang name. if they would have put "Crap II" instead of "Mustang II" badges on it, i would have never had a problem with the car...
       
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      where do i get a torx driver with a bump in the middle? nobody seems to know what i am talking about. i need it to adjust the headlights on my wife's mazda. i removed them to wetsand them. after i put them on, i cant get them to line up right. the adjusting screw are behind a piece of plastic that is secured with those security screws :mad:
      probably so you had to take it to the dealer to get your headlights aimed.
       
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      Thats now the official quote of the day!!!

      :D


      Also, you can get the security torx bits at pretty much any auto parts store or at Sears (Craftsman).


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